VENT!!! why can't people mind their own business

But the aunt already bought one of the step kids a truck before her kids got a car.. so now what? :confused3

If that is true, which still seems dicey, it is nice, but why? Why is the Aunt buying cars? Why would the supposedly horrible ex not have an issue with that, yet supposedly the OP has to hide smaller gifts? Was the truck really bought, or was it an extra old car they had while the OP bought her kids new cars? None of it makes sense based on her previous posts about the step kids. None of it. And I still don't get why the ages of the step kids are not in her siggy. If you don't see the different treatment, even from that? You are simply ignoring the facts.
 
I gotta ask why its any of the kids business about finances? They are kids I dont tell my kids about our bills why would it work different here? I tell my kids unless they are paying the bills its none of their business.

sure it isn't their business to see the line item details of the family budget....but if I decided to pick my favorite child and buy them all sorts of cool things and do very little for the others...they won't need to see the actual number crunching to have a clue that they are getting the short end of the stick.

I'm an only to my dad and stepmom and while it was technically none of my business how they spent their money...it was painfully obvious the disdain they had for my mom and that they used money as a manipulative tool when it came to me. And yes....they did finally admit to that when in asked them several years ago. Children are quite observant. Actions speak louder than words.
 
I gotta ask why its any of the kids business about finances? They are kids I dont tell my kids about our bills why would it work different here? I tell my kids unless they are paying the bills its none of their business.

How many stepkids are you dealing with?

The kids will notice if the OP's children are getting more/better things than they are.

If you stick with the it's none of your business line, then the kids(and the mother) will think that dad spent big bucks on another woman's kids, but not on them.
 
How many stepkids are you dealing with?

The kids will notice if the OP's children are getting more/better things than they are.

If you stick with the it's none of your business line, then the kids(and the mother) will think that dad spent big bucks on another woman's kids, but not on them.

zero step kids.. :goodvibes:thumbsup2

Honestly I'm not around that often any more.. no time. I dont really know the whole thing with the OP and who's getting better of what...
 

The OP says they split the bills. But that still leaves many questions. Who owns the home? How many bedrooms? Do the OP's bio kids each get a room and the three steps share a room? If the DH owned the home before they got married did the OP give him half the equity and then pay have the mortgage? If not, then she is using the DH's money to fund her kids fun items.

Just because the OP's DH pays support and the OP's ex does not is not the step kids problem. Why is the OP not going after the ex? Did she trade sole custody for the support?
 
Op, you can't win here--meaning the Dis, not your situation. You are going to be wrong no matter what you say or do.

^^^This. Heck, there are even people creating users just to post on this thread, which I always find suspicious.

Family dynamics are complicated and there is no way any of us really know all the details of the OP's, especially of a "non-traditional" family with kids from different parents. Even if your family mirrors hers they can still be vastly different. I would suspect that in situations where people have both their own children and step-children that many times the parent does feel a bit different about their own flesh and blood then step kids. It may not be right and they may never admit it to anyone, including themselves, but deep down in that place no one talks about I think they know it is true.
 
OP, I feel for you. :hug:

I have to say, though, that before I even read your original post, I saw your screen name and thought to myself, "I wonder if this is going to be another thread where I get the perception that she is (not maliciously, but still) treating her stepkids as second class children?"
This is just my perception from the sum total of many of your threads, not from this thread alone.

I think some professional family counseling is what's needed.
I realize that you love your stepkids and try your best to do right by them, and that the ex sabotages everything (what a loon she sounds like! :headache:). I realize that the ex WANTS you to keep her kids out of your life. She WANTS her kids to ignore/dislike you. That makes it darn near impossible for you to be what the kids NEED you to be--a mother who loves them and treats them just like your biological children. But that really is what you have to be, even if the ex doesn't like it. For the kids' sake.
I don't think the DIS can help you figure out how to do that.
:grouphug:
 
I have two amazingly wonderful step kids. And regardless of how I feel about their mother, if I thought for even one second that they thought my bio kids were treated better than them it would simply break my heart. And it would be a big shame on me. When I married my husband. I took on the family as my own. And anyone that doesn't feel that way is simply selfish. If you aren't ready to take on more kids, then you aren't ready for a new relationship.
 
Well then, the same can be said about allowing her step-son to accept a car from the aunt. If the aunt can't or will not buy a car for all of the kids (her's too), then none of them should have one from her.

I don't understand why it's OK for the oldest ss to get a car from his aunt and then have the aunt buy cars for the other steps when they come of age, but the OP can't buy one for her own kids. That's baloney.

The ex-wife can buy stuff for her kids, but this mother is not allowed the freedom to do the same. And I know what you are all going to say--treat them all the same. But this situation is different--they have a mother in the picture that is very involved in their lives. So why should the step kids get more than her kids get?

You expect this mother to treat the other kids better than she treats her own. :rolleyes:

Thank you, you are sweet. If I tried to make everything fair, I would go nuts. I do my best and I really think this is fair if the boys are already getting a car. I guess I don't understand, my kids aren't allowed to have the same privilege of having a car, just the boys are.? :confused3

Why should all the kids be treated equally? Owning a car at 16 is a privilege not a right. However, that is beside the point.

The skids mother does not want to contribute to a car. The skids aunt is going be buying each skid a car. The father/stepfather did not want to contribute to any kid a car. ALL of the kids are going to have a car.

The biomom just wants to create some drama. I read nothing of biomom wanting help with buying the kids a car.

cheermom1, I feel for you. You're only being seen as the evil stepmom who doesn't care about your skids when I don't believe that is the case at all. I think you're fighting a losing battle on this post. PM me and vent away! :hug:

Thank you for that your are sweet too. I'm always seen as the evil step mom b/c bio mom has put me in that position. She is the one that has made it very hard for the boys and I to be close by always bad mouthing me and grounding the boys if she even thinks they like me.

One thing I would like to point out is that aunt said she wanted to buy the boys a car as her gift to them way back when they were little and she has already started it with the oldest ss. That is why dh didn't step up and why he wanted to make it clear I bought the cars b/c he didn't want the boys to think he bought my kids a car and not them. I don't expect her to buy my kids a car but I do expect to be able to buy for mine though. How would it be fair if I didn't b/c we didn't buy the boys one if they already have one coming? Plus NONE of the step kids are old enough to have a car like I said the oldest is 14 so their time hasn't even come yet.
 
Again, I get the idea you taken on the evil step mom role by choice. Where are the step kids ages in your siggy? Are they ageless?
 
I can't fully take either side on this one:

On the one hand, it's kind of silly to say that it was the wife's money that paid for the cars. When you're married, it's your money PLURAL, not your money SINGULAR. Yes, it might technically have come from your paycheck, but it's money that's now not available for household needs, so exactly who earned that dollar isn't really important. The cars really came from both of you.

Also, when it comes to major things like cars -- and for teens, there's not much of anything bigger than a car -- unless unusual circumstances exist, you really have to do the same thing for all the kids. This becomes even more important when steps are involved. If you don't treat all the kids equally with things like this, you're asking for family trouble forever. The slighted parties will hold a grudge against you AND against their steps. Treat them differently on this one, and someone'll still have hard feelings when your grandchildren are ready to drive.

The kids are totally not going to buy into the "their biological father isn't in the picture" thing. They're just not going to see the logic in that argument. Shoot, I don't see the logic in it.

I see that the aunt is going to buy the kids a car/truck (and I'm assuming that these hypothetical vehicles are going to be of relatively equal caliber -- one isn't getting something shiney new while the other gets a 5-year old, been wrecked twice rustbucket). A second car would be a foolish expenditure, but I do think that it'd be appropriate for the kids' father to do "something equivalent" of a car; the first thing that comes to mind is insurance. If it's a used car, other needs might exist: new tires, a paint job, or whatever. There are any number of ways to make this "equal" for the kids.

On the other hand,

The stepmother has no right to tell you what you should and shouldn't do with your money (court orders, of course, being the exception). She especially has no right to DEMAND that you do whatever she thinks is right. Keep in mind that you are under NO OBLIGATION to discuss your future financial plans with her (especially since it's two more years 'til the next child can drive?). It's fine to say, "That's a long way away -- let's just save that discussion for another day."

And on a related topic, it sounds like all the adults in the situation have a big case of a divorce hang-over and need to start cooperating. I always have a hard time believing that the ex is such a horrible monster -- after all, she is special enough to have caught the eye of your spouse, so she can't be all bad. Fussing and fighting like this does hurt the children. It doesn't matter who starts it. Y'all need to get it under control now. It won't be too many years 'til y'all will need to cooperate on even bigger topics like college tutition, weddings, and grandchildren, and as of right now, you've got a ways to go on the communication front.

I'm sure you'll say, "But she doesn't cooperate!" That may be true, but y'all didn't get into this situation with only her acting this way. I'm thinking about my grandmother, who "inherited" a very difficult mother-in-law in her second marriage -- one who was both sick and elderly -- and she lived with them. The MIL would light into her, screaming for all she was worth (always about absolutely nothing -- silly things like how to fold towels), and instead of rising to the occasion, my grandmother would go right on doing whatever needed to be done . . . and when her MIL had screamed herself out, my grandmother'd say with all the patience in the world, "Mother B, what did you need? I couldn't understand you when you were screaming." Refusing to take part in a fight takes the wind out of the other party's sails in a hurry. That MIL was known for being difficult, and she frequently had shouting matches of epic proportions with her own sons (and everyone else in the family) . . . but not with my grandmother. She learned that it wasn't much fun to fuss by yourself. Don't get me wrong -- I'm not saying that my grandmother was a doormat to her MIL. One thing they had trouble with early on was food; the MIL wouldn't like what my grandmother had cooked, and she'd scream about it, sometimes even throw food. My grandmother would sit right there at the table eating her own food and would say, "I'm awfully sorry you don't care for the lima beans. Tell me what kind you do like and how you like them cooked." But she wouldn't get up to clean the thrown food, and she wouldn't make anything else at that meal. I learned a lot from my grandmother about how to handle difficult people. I know it bothered her. I know she'd go into another room sometimes because she couldn't take it and wouldn't show how frustrated she was, but I also know that in the long run she won a whole lot of people's respect, and although she and her MIL never really became friends, my grandmother wasn't treated like that forever. She won the battle, and not only because she outlived the MIL.

Also, being a stepchild myself, I can tell you that my mother handled my father's lack of financial help (and every other type of help) by always taking the high road, and it made an impression on all of us kids. She never, ever spoke badly of our father, though she did always tell us the truth: She never hid the fact that we struggled financially because he didn't pay his child support. She never made excuses for why he didn't come to visit. But she was always factual about these things: "No, you can't do such-and-such. Unless the child support comes through, there's just no money for it." NOT "No, you can't do such-and-such because your father is a lousy, good-for-nothing excuse for a human being." We all came to our own conclusions about our father (especially when he didn't attend big events like graduations and weddings), but we all thought better of our mother because she refused to get down in the mud with him and sink to his level. We saw that she had not belittled him in our minds, though she didn't -- and couldn't -- stop him from belittling himself. It didn't make a hill of beans difference in our relationship with him, but it made all the world of a difference in the way we see her.

And I agree with the poster who said that the root of all this isn't about cars at all.

I wish you luck. Not only with the cars. Being a step -- whether you're the child or the parent -- is a tough row to hoe.
 
No offense was meant in the using 'skids'. I didn't mean it like a skid mark or something, geez people. Stepkid is what I meant. Everyone is so touchy, touchy.

I grew up as a STEPKID with 2 STEPPARENTS and I did NOT expect to be treated the same as their children. I guess you all expect the STEPKIDS to treat the STEPPARENT as a real parent? Now, there's a double standard.

Seems the BIOMOM expects the STEPMOM to help supply as if the children were her own. However, the BIOMOM doesn't seem to have made an offer help out with the expense of supplying BIOMOM and BIODADS children with a car.

No real double standard. The father does not want to buy his kids a car. His decision. Why is anyone criticizing the stepmom for it. She's already said she would help with the purchase if the father wanted to.


Thank you you are so sweet. I hope that your situation is nothing like my step kids are. i feel so much for them. :hug:

If aunt wasn't already wanting to buy their cars I would have no problem with dh helping biomom buy them a car, It just happens that aunt want to buy them a car and they agreed. I have no say in that decision. But I choose to buy a car for my kids who have a different dad but he is not in the pic and if he was you bet I'd want him to help pay half.
 
Yes. If they can't afford it for one parent's child, then no one should get them. Why should her kids be treated better? Seriously? When she makes a commitment to the husband, she makes the commitment to the family. Simple as that. No kid is better or more important to the family than the other.

Her kids are not being treated better here. Someone is buying her stepsons each a car, its just not their father. Should her kids do without because the aunt can buy his kids each a car and her kids don't have an aunt to buy them one? Does that make any sense?
 
Her kids are not being treated better here. Someone is buying her stepsons each a car, its just not their father. Should her kids do without because the aunt can buy his kids each a car and her kids don't have an aunt to buy them one? Does that make any sense?

First of all, we have no idea if they are equal gifts. Second, the parents are putting out a large amount of money for one set of kids not the other -- who cares what the aunt arranged? The mom is still making it clear that she will spend money on one set she won't on the other -- in fact, she has said several times that she would give money to the step kids cars if their mom did the same (1/2 of 1/2 -- what a sport). She obviously had no such restrictions on her own kids. Kids know the difference, and they see the unequal treatment. Maybe you can ask the OP why the step kids are not worthy of their own ages in her siggy. Talk about different treatment from the beginning. Just listen to how she talks about them. As others have said, this goes well beyond cars.
 
Op, you can't win here--meaning the Dis, not your situation. You are going to be wrong no matter what you say or do.

I used to be one of the ones saying you are wrong because I tend to be a bit touchy with the step-parent/step-kid area. But the more I read your posts the more I see, its really not you--your dh's ex is a NUT!!

If I am understanding correctly, she wants the boys to come and see their father and not have anything to do with you (and probably your kids?) or you to have anything to do with them. In her mind you should just be a non-entity in the house and not say anything to them or do anything for them. She wants the time at your house to be 100% between them and your dh, no other family member involved. Am I right?

It sounds like your hands are tied and to keep the peace you do as little for them as possible.

I don't see where you were wrong for buying your kids a car. You cannot spend your life making them do without because of what his ex might think. My ex and his wife bought her son a car, I certainly didn't expect them to buy one for my sons. My parents had all intentions of buying my kids a car, her son didn't have grandparents that were able to do that so should he have done without? Of course not.

I do hope that your dh has something really big planned for the kid's 16th birthday, because although they do not need a car (and to buy them one when the aunt is doing so would be asinine), he should be doing something at least equal to half a car in value. Make sense?

Thank you so much and you hit the nail on the head. She is not a sane woman and therefore doesn;t think sainly I learned that a long time ago. as far as her aunt buying the cars, yes she even bought the biomom a house and her cars and just about anything she wants and the ex lets her. That way she doesn't have to pay for anything. I stay out of that as I have never in my life known of a family member that does that. The aunt has one child and he is grown and she does the same thing for him as well. And he is planning a huge party and is thinking of getting them laptops. But don't really know for sure yet.

And as far as the boys thinking they are getting slighted, I don;t understand why they would think that b/c most of their lives they were told that aunt is buying them a car and if their parents were still together it wouldn't be a big deal at all. Meaning that aunt would still have bought them their cars.
 
Since you have your money and spend it in the way you see fit, then your husband must have his own money to spend the same way. It looks like this is a decision for your husband to make. He can choose to pay for none, half, or all of his children's cars.

If I were you, I would let the ex know that the decision is up to your husband and you will support whatever he decides to do.

I can see how the ex feels that your children are being treated better than hers. It would appear that way when the kids living in your household get cars and his other children may not. Of course there is more to the situation, but I can see how this would appear to his children.

If I were your husband, I would purchase the kids cars and make things exactly equal, but that's just me. It seems like it would be a good idea to step out of the situation and let the ex know it is your husband's decision.

ETA - An aunt buying their cars just isn't the same as the father doing it.
 
First of all, we have no idea if they are equal gifts. Second, the parents are putting out a large amount of money for one set of kids not the other -- who cares what the aunt arranged? The mom is still making it clear that she will spend money on one set she won't on the other -- in fact, she has said several times that she would give money to the step kids cars if their mom did the same (1/2 of 1/2 -- what a sport). She obviously had no such restrictions on her own kids. Kids know the difference, and they see the unequal treatment. Maybe you can ask the OP why the step kids are not worthy of their own ages in her siggy. Talk about different treatment from the beginning. Just listen to how she talks about them. As others have said, this goes well beyond cars.

Oh for goodness sake!! the reason I said half and half is b/c they have 2 parents in their lives!! My kids don't and if their father was in their lives I'd expect that he would pay half but the reality is that that is not going to happen in this life time.

Plus it is made clear every chance the biomom gets is that I am nothing to the kids and I let dh handle her. He told her that since aunt is buying the cars he is not and that I bought my kids a car so he isn't buying anyone a car.

It doesn;t matter as I really think the only one getting their panties in a bunch is the biomom. Seriously the step kids are getting a car too. I don;t know what kind of car she is going to get the other 2 but I can tell you the truck is not a new one but it runs and drives good. Plus I didn't spend much on my kids cars I did a lot of trading.

thanks to everyone sees what is really going on and the kind words b/c posting on a mess sometimes you can;t really understand what really is going till you lived it. I do know that most of my friends who are steps parents as well have said I did nothing wrong. I was just wanting to vent b/c biomom expects us to pay for a 2nd car for the boys just b/c I bought one for my kids.

No I am not the one dividing the kids up the biomom is the one doing all the dividing and has made that very clear. I do know that when the boys slip and call me mom they stop and have this look on their face that they know their mom would be very mad at them. I tell them it is ok don;t worry about it. and IF I am such a horrible stepmom they would not slip up and say that nor would they joke with me and talk to me about things. Just sat night me and the oldest was wrestling around. They want to be close to me but the hold back b/c of their mom and it has been that way a long time. I try to let them do what they feel comfortable doing. I don't want any more drama.
 
Since you have your money and spend it in the way you see fit, then your husband must have his own money to spend the same way. It looks like this is a decision for your husband to make. He can choose to pay for none, half, or all of his children's cars.

If I were you, I would let the ex know that the decision is up to your husband and you will support whatever he decides to do.

I can see how the ex feels that your children are being treated better than hers. It would appear that way when the kids living in your household get cars and his other children may not. Of course there is more to the situation, but I can see how this would appear to his children.

If I were your husband, I would purchase the kids cars and make things exactly equal, but that's just me. It seems like it would be a good idea to step out of the situation and let the ex know it is your husband's decision.

I have stepped out and let him handle it and he made it clear to me that if aunt wasn't going to buy the cars he would pay for half and have the biomom pay for half. This is what HE wants and how HE wants to take care of them getting a car. I don;t tell him how to spend his money nor do I tell him how to parent his kids or what to say to ex. I let him do all that, I was VENTING!!!

That is fine with me I have no problems with that all. I do have a problem with biomom telling me that I'm nothing to the step kids but then when she sees I bought something for my kids she demands the same. And at this point how does she know what we were going to do anyway as we still have 2 years till the oldest stepson is 16 anyway. She jumped gun, plus instead of asking dh what he plans on doing she just demanded. :mad:
 
Stepson is NOT 16 and won't be for another 2 years!

oh and one other thing the truck still runs as he is allowed to drive it when he goes to his aunts house on their dirt road.

I'm a little confused. I understand that the aunt bought the oldest stepson's truck, but does the above mean that he only has use of it at her house and in the immediate vicinity of the house? If your children are able to have free use of their cars and the stepson's use is so restricted, I can certainly understand the hard feelings.
 
I love how the OP just avoids all questions that could show she is playing favorites.

The SS who is 14 has has a truck for years and drives it on the dirt road. By the time he gets it it may not even pass inspection.
 

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