VENT: Bad choices

[ols386]

Are you serious, IT"S a kids program with kids there they are going to be loud and crazy anyway.

I wouldn't for one second give into my child. If they are throwing a fit OP said they child wanted to leave, so by leaving you are giving in to the child and REWARDING them by giving in.

There are certain situations where you do need to remove your child. If you are in a public place such as the one in the op, where there are others around you who have paid for a ticket to watch and enjoy the program, they do not want to hear a child screaming. If you remove the child for a few minutes and they calm down and can behave during the program, then take them back in to watch.

If you are at home you are free to let the child have their tantrum and deal with it any way you choose.

 

[marmalade]

Because they shouldn't HAVE to. Parents are supposed to KNOW WHAT TO DO. And it's NOT the time to teach a lesson. It's time to TAKE THEM OUT. That's what a responsible adult should do.

No parent knows what to do all the time everytime. Life is about learning through experiences. I am positive every parent in the history of the universe has done something that they realize afterwards probably wasn't the best idea.

A young mother is not only learning how to be an adult but also a mother.

 

[MickeyMomOfThree]

No way would I allow a child of mine to disrupt other people's enjoyment of a show of ANY TYPE. That's a lesson they need to learn.



For THIS I would have definitely gone for management. If kids cannot understand and cooperate with theater etiquette they should NOT be there. Broadway is NOT for children who cannot comply.

I agree with you, on both counts. Sure there were time we had to leave places, but we did it and they learned we wouldn't go next time if they couldn't behave.

The first time we took the kids to see a show was also The Lion King and our youngest was 3. I didn't want to go cause I was worried how she would be. She was a pretty good kid, but that was a long time and you just never know. The tickets were over $300 so I didn't want to have to leave if she was bad (but I would have.) DH cracked and bought tickets for the very last show and told me if she (or any) of the kids needed to leave, he'd take them. Thankfully they sat speechless and it wasn't an issue but had they needed to be taken out, we would have.

 

[ols386]

Would you also get mad at Kids who were screaming and yelling because they were excited at the event?

If you go to an event that targets kids you are going to have learn to accept all kinda of behavior end of story. Now you had said something about Broadway that is a different story to me I don't consider that to be a kid friendly event.

Oh by the way I'm quiet responsible

That's not what's being discussed here. A child who screams with excitement is not the same situation as a child screaming during a tantrum, and I think you probably know that.

 

[DISshopkeeper]

Would you also get mad at Kids who were screaming and yelling because they were excited at the event?

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Totally different scenario. No, that would not bother me, because chances are if THEY were excited BY the event, everyone would be!

 

[Hannathy]

Would you also get mad at Kids who were screaming and yelling because they were excited at the event?

If you go to an event that targets kids you are going to have learn to accept all kinda of behavior end of story. Now you had said something about Broadway that is a different story to me I don't consider that to be a kid friendly event.

Oh by the way I'm quiet responsible

Actually yes if the child was disrupting the whole section then yes I would complain. Same as you do if a drunk is screaming and disrupting an entire section at a ball game they are escorted out.

And yes if I go to a kids event I don't expect chess match quiet but I do expect and demand appropriate public behavior for a crowd situation. There is absolutely no reason not to. Kids will behave the way they are taught and expected to behave. At a performance you do not disturb the entire section around you that is the end of story .

 

[Allison]

If my kids had done that, we would have left. It's rude.

 

[HookdonWDW]

Actually yes if the child was disrupting the whole section then yes I would complain. Same as you do if a drunk is screaming and disrupting an entire section at a ball game they are escorted out.

And yes if I go to a kids event I don't expect chess match quiet but I do expect and demand appropriate public behavior for a crowd situation. There is absolutely no reason not to. Kids will behave the way they are taught and expected to behave. At a performance you do not disturb the entire section around you that is the end of story .

 

[Ciao Mickey]

We went to Disney on Ice. DD really enjoyed it. There was a very young appearing mom there with her son, who appeared to be about 2 years old. This kid screamed the entire show because he did not want to be there. She then placed him in his stroller so she could watch the show. What did he do? Started to SCREAM LOUDER! and started bucking in the stroller. They had to be 5 rows away and I could hear the kid over the show.

He screamed for 30 minutes off and on she never left.

Anyone who thinks it's OK to ignore a screaming kid in public is just plain stupid.

Anyone who thinks it's OK to remain at the show while their kid is screaming and crying and disrupting everyone around them is just plain stupid and inconsiderate of others.

Anyone who thinks that others should tolerate the kid's behavior *just because* is stupider than stupid because there is no way to justify bad behavior.

A parent should have an idea of what their kid can tolerate. If they don't know then they shouldn't pick a paying venue to find out.

Here is a newsflash to all the snowflake parents out there:

We don't want to hear your kid screaming their head off when we paid to see a show. If you can't control your kid, be considerate of others and take them out of there and calm them down. If you can't calm them down, then leave so others can enjoy the show in peace.

Use some common sense for goodness sakes.

 

[AustinTink]

Are you serious, IT"S a kids program with kids there they are going to be loud and crazy anyway.

I wouldn't for one second give into my child. If they are throwing a fit OP said they child wanted to leave, so by leaving you are giving in to the child and REWARDING them by giving in.

No, you would be adhering to the norms of social etiquette, by removing the offending noise. Removing crying kids from situations like this is only good manners. Nothing more or less.

 

[disneyjunkie]

Anyone who thinks it's OK to ignore a screaming kid in public is just plain stupid.

Anyone who thinks it's OK to remain at the show while their kid is screaming and crying and disrupting everyone around them is just plain stupid and inconsiderate of others.

Anyone who thinks that others should tolerate the kid's behavior *just because* is stupider than stupid because there is no way to justify bad behavior.

A parent should have an idea of what their kid can tolerate. If they don't know then they shouldn't pick a paying venue to find out.

Here is a newsflash to all the snowflake parents out there:

We don't want to hear your kid screaming their head off when we paid to see a show. If you can't control your kid, be considerate of others and take them out of there and calm them down. If you can't calm them down, then leave so others can enjoy the show in peace.

Use some common sense for goodness sakes.

 

[Queen2PrincessG]

Like I said, she was alone and with her son. which is the other thing, how many little boys can sit through a princess show. I think it was more the fact that she wanted to see the show and refused to leave. She was taking pictures with her phone while he was strapped to the stroller.

 

[kathie859]

Whoever thinks that removing the tantrum thrower from his current environment is rewarding bad behavior is wrong (unless you remove him and go buy him ice cream or other goodie). Removing the child sends a clear message that bad behavior will not be tolerated and will be dealt with quickly and consistently. (think a time out---just within earshot of what he is missing or just going home to bed)

The young mother missed a teaching moment.

 

[RainbowBrite]

Are you serious, IT"S a kids program with kids there they are going to be loud and crazy anyway.

I wouldn't for one second give into my child. If they are throwing a fit OP said they child wanted to leave, so by leaving you are giving in to the child and REWARDING them by giving in.

I agree with this completely. I don't have kids, but I've been in the child care field for almost 10 years and I never give in to tantrums because it teaches them that throwing a fit will give them what they want.

ETA: I would never take a small child to a show like that, at least until I was certain they could handle it

 

[Hannathy]

I agree with this completely. I don't have kids, but I've been in the child care field for almost 10 years and I never give in to tantrums because it teaches them that throwing a fit will give them what they want.

Sorry your "teaching moment" doesn't trump the needs of 100 other paying patrons. And for the record I would hope my child's teachers would have more common sense than you are expressing here.

 

[Goofyluver]

Are you serious, IT"S a kids program with kids there they are going to be loud and crazy anyway.

I wouldn't for one second give into my child. If they are throwing a fit OP said they child wanted to leave, so by leaving you are giving in to the child and REWARDING them by giving in.

Nah, what you've just taught that child is that he is more important than anyone else in the room. He doesn't have to adhere to societal rules for acceptable behavior (in this situation), he can be rude, disruptive, and lack manners, and mommy will sit idly by and tolerate it.

He was allowed to disrupt and ruin the performance for everyone else. He is "special".

THAT is what you have taught him.

 

[NMAmy]

I agree with this completely. I don't have kids, but I've been in the child care field for almost 10 years and I never give in to tantrums because it teaches them that throwing a fit will give them what they want.

There is a time to teach a child a lesson and there are other times when not disturbing others is more important. No one is saying to take the kid out and buy him candy. Take the child out, talk about appropriate behavior, and if the kid can't behave appropriately, you go home and miss out on the show. As an adult, sometimes we don't get to see Disney on Ice or the end of a movie if our kids can't behave.

If the kid is bothering other people who have paid to see a performance, then the parent needs to take them the heck out of the situation and get the child under control or leave.

 

[Cat0727]

Anyone who thinks it's OK to ignore a screaming kid in public is just plain stupid.

Anyone who thinks it's OK to remain at the show while their kid is screaming and crying and disrupting everyone around them is just plain stupid and inconsiderate of others.

Anyone who thinks that others should tolerate the kid's behavior *just because* is stupider than stupid because there is no way to justify bad behavior.

A parent should have an idea of what their kid can tolerate. If they don't know then they shouldn't pick a paying venue to find out.

Here is a newsflash to all the snowflake parents out there:

We don't want to hear your kid screaming their head off when we paid to see a show. If you can't control your kid, be considerate of others and take them out of there and calm them down. If you can't calm them down, then leave so others can enjoy the show in peace.

Use some common sense for goodness sakes.

 

[okeydokey]

Are you serious, IT"S a kids program with kids there they are going to be loud and crazy anyway.

I wouldn't for one second give into my child. If they are throwing a fit OP said they child wanted to leave, so by leaving you are giving in to the child and REWARDING them by giving in.

It's only a reward if it is not attached to some other consequence for the child. The Mom had no right to ruin the event for everyone else so she could "teach" her child.

 

[Christine]

It's only a reward if it is not attached to some other consequence for the child. The Mom had no right to ruin the event for everyone else so she could "teach" her child.

Exactly. My guess is that the 2 year old probably didn't want to leave. What most 2 year olds don't want to do is to sit in a seat for an hour, sit on their mom's lap for an hour, or sit in a stroller. He more than likely wanted to run up and down the aisle. The fact that the mom strapped him in a stroller tells me that much.

Since he couldn't sit still (and many 2 year olds cannot), she should have left. I had an active 2 year old once and did not go to Disney on Ice because of it. We waited until she was almost 4 years old.