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[Littlelulu01]

50 min to add on. On sale 5/2/23. Can book starting 5/16. Won’t know incentive till 5/2.

 

[ocdb8r1]

$9.06 mf’s

Where is this information? Do we have any confirmation on pricing other than a single tweet by an unknown source?

 

[Canchaser143]

Where is this information? Do we have any confirmation on pricing other than a single tweet by an unknown source?

My guide just emailed me and confirmed this pricing

 

[wilkydelts]

BAH ,HAA.....Scott Gustin isn't an unknown source

 

[Littlelulu01]

Where is this information? Do we have any confirmation on pricing other than a single tweet by an unknown source?

Email from dvc

 

[tfc3rid]

$9.06 MF is steep for a tower add on at an existing property... I was thinking it would be $7.50 tops...

 

[Nursemanit]

$9.06 MF is steep for a tower add on at an existing property... I was thinking it would be $7.50 tops...

It’s California- I am surprised it’s not 10 since it covers labor costs

 

[Wedgeout]

$9.06! Not on the beach. No animals to care for. Not including taxes. Must be a whole lot of smog damage yearly. Ouch, think I just fell off the fence.

 

[nlenguyen]

Plus we need to pay tax and parking? My wallet just ran away

Why would they make so many small things to turn people away. I know there will be a rush at first, but they are already struggling getting the current resorts sold. If I was told, "Here, we have a resort that is more than our other resorts being sold and you have to pay a tax each time you stay here and if you bring a car, you get an additional charge, all this plus our maintainence fees start at $9 a point, how many points do you want to start with today?" Me- None, thank you how about the Grand Californian resale?

 

[Littlelulu01]

I’m not going to get too hung up on price and mf’s. It’ll work out in the next few years- an indication that others will be increasing at a faster pace to catch up. I remember scoffing at Rivera but now they’re not bad.

 

[disney-inspired]

The sale price, dues and possible surcharges have blown me off the fence into the yard of 'no way, Jose'.

 

[take36]

Why would they make so many small things to turn people away. I know there will be a rush at first, but they are already struggling getting the current resorts sold. If I was told, "Here, we have a resort that is more than our other resorts being sold and you have to pay a tax each time you stay here and if you bring a car, you get an additional charge, all this plus our maintainence fees start at $9 a point, how many points do you want to start with today?" Me- None, thank you how about the Grand Californian resale?

With all these fees and high prices (barring amazing incentives), is it just cheaper to stay on the hotel side? I paid about 600 a night over busy week/spring break for DLH. Hotel side does have its own perks of housekeeping, a tad closer, and more flexible cancellation/planning options.

 

[AstroBlasters]

Ok, here is how I look at the numbers:

$230pp / 50 years = $ 4.6pp
$4,66pp+ 9.05 mf’s+ $2.73 tax = $16.33pp

Here is the avg nightly rate from lowest to highest for

Standard View:
Duo: $177 to $373
Studio: $226 to $471

Preferred Views:
Duo: $194 to $406
Studio: $264 to $520
1BD: $512 to $919
2BD: $1194 to $1386
GV: $1638 to $2916

Garden:
Duo: $210 to $443
Studio: $329 to $623

 

[tfc3rid]

I've now read the $2.73 transient tax per point per night... If you compare to Aulani, the tax is only greater than $50 in a Grant Villa. So, this is fairly pricey.

 

[happythoughts & pixiedust]

$2.73 per point tax seems extremely high. I could stomach the 230/pt. and dues of 9.06. But when you add in another 2.73 pp for tax and parking on top of that we're looking at the equivalent of $12+ dues. This can't be right.

According to my present value analysis, if these numbers are true, it will cost ~$20-$21 (in 2023 dollars - and will inflate each year) per point to own VDH to expiration. That's crazy! There's virtually no incentive to own vs. just paying cash at that price. That puts a weekend night in a standard view studio over Spring Break timeframe around $570.

 

[Wedgeout]

Should be some intriguing conversations in the DVC Star View Station tomorrow .

 

[Lumee23]

VGC has the transient tax as well. It’s just bundled into dues. Works out to roughly $0.50 per point. So dues at VGC would be $0.50 lower if they did it this way instead.

This change is good for people who rent points out.
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Anybody know why VGC and VDH would have such different costs per point for the transient tax?

I could have gotten over the 230/pp and the higher maintenance fees but the 2.73pp transient tax on top of all of that was a dealbreaker for us.

 

[happythoughts & pixiedust]

Anybody know why VGC and VDH would have such different costs per point for the transient tax?

I could have gotten over the 230/pp and the higher maintenance fees but the 2.73pp transient tax on top of all of that was a dealbreaker for us.

I'd love to know the answer to this question as well. How is it possible that VDH tax could be greater than 5 times what it costs at VGC? Makes no sense.

 

[Epcot Forever Forever]

Anybody know why VGC and VDH would have such different costs per point for the transient tax?

I could have gotten over the 230/pp and the higher maintenance fees but the 2.73pp transient tax on top of all of that was a dealbreaker for us.

Until I see the Disneyland hotel one in writing on a document from Disney, I don’t think it needs too much thought

 

[HyperspaceMountainPilot]

Ok, here is how I look at the numbers:

$230pp / 50 years = $ 4.6pp
$4,66pp+ 9.05 mf’s+ $2.73 tax = $16.33pp

Here is the avg nightly rate from lowest to highest for

Standard View:
Duo: $177 to $373
Studio: $226 to $471

Preferred Views:
Duo: $194 to $406
Studio: $264 to $520
1BD: $512 to $919
2BD: $1194 to $1386
GV: $1638 to $2916

Garden:
Duo: $210 to $443
Studio: $329 to $623

As someone who has looked at hotel rates for on property Disneyland hotels (and off property ones too) a lot over the past couple years, I would say that the studio rates estimated by @AstroBlasters are at least a couple hundred a night below average for low season, high season is still probably below what I've seen Disney charge on busy weekends and last minute rates-- I think what I'm saying is that if the economy and travel demand remains strong, even with all the extra fees, you're still getting a pretty decent discount to booking at the Disneyland Hotel for studios and an even bigger discount for 1 bedrooms (I never look at 2 bedrooms, but I'd presume it's true as well). On the other hand, if the economy or Anaheim tourism crashes, you could see DL hotel rooms at/below 300 with some regularity, especially with Disney's various Magic Key/local resident promotions. If I had high convinction that DL was going to build out all the proposed areas around the Disneyland hotel, I would probably buy (especially with an incentive)-- but for the moment I'd prefer to pay the same to be at Grand Californian resale.