vbs daycare problem no more solved..

[jbthi]

I haven't read all the posts, but most of the VBS I have been involved in just last for 2 hours or so. Is that the case with this one?

 

[Missy1961]

Psst. I was actually the one that started that rule.

Well, it's one rule that really works! LOL

OP, by changing the title, you are probably getting more people interested in the thread. It's just the way the Dis works.

 

[phorsenuf]

Well, it's one rule that really works! LOL

OP, by changing the title, you are probably getting more people interested in the thread. It's just the way the Dis works.

It actually crack me up how many people know about it and follow it.

 

[wvdisluv2]

*Cough* read from the "get-go" and am in agreement with the OP....sorry...my opinion.....

 

[phorsenuf]

*Cough* read from the "get-go" and am in agreement with the OP....sorry...my opinion.....

I have no opinion actually. Didn't even read through the thing. Saw the changed title and saw it wasn't quoted so I did.

 

[wvdisluv2]

I have no opinion actually. Didn't even read through the thing. Saw the changed title and saw it wasn't quoted so I did.

Lol I wouldn't have read the whole thing unless you did

 

[Cool-Beans]

Just decided to check out the thread now that it's going to be closed.

 

[disneyjunkie]

why the change in title???

Some of us missed the "only post if you agree with me" memo.

 

[Imzadi]

Dang! I miss all the good stuff until after it's over.

Nothing like drawing attention with, "Hey! Read over here!"

 

[ehstrojette]

Good night and God Bless all of you

 

[wvdisluv2]

Good night and God Bless all of you

 

[nicolemomof4cuties]

Well, I feel sorry for the OP. I happen to agree with her. Being an in home daycare provider is a thankless job. Parents walk all over you on a daily basis- They bring their children and leave them for 10,11,12 hours. Pay late, pay not enough, pay NEVER..... You name it they think that they can rule your home. They never want you to go on vacation- even when you have told then A YEAR ahead of time but- yeah buddy, they'll tell you a week in advance about their two week vacation and they don't want to pay for either one. And don't EVEN THINK about getting sick---the ONE time in 6 years I called my cdaycare parents to tell them I had food poisoning I had some lady go the Exorcist on me and bring her baby any way-- NO JOKE!!I think that the OP was trying to do a fun thing with the kids and had asked in plenty of time and was given approval in plenty of time. The parents simply changed their minds and are like alot of parents that I have had the disprivlege of knowing over the past few years and think that the world revolves around them. They think that she is Burger King and is gonna make it their way like she has in the past. GEESH! Seriously, This lady has bent over 5 ways to Sunday being nice to people- I say enough is enough. I may sound a little hardened but I have had some bad experiences with not nice people over the years. They think that since you aren't a center they can walk all over you and it is just horrid. I stopped doing daycare because of it and just watch my friends and families children for fun now.... It is much nicer More joy in my heart and it makes me remember why I was licensed in the first place.... Good luck OP and have you some fun at VBS! My kids have been having a BLAST!!!

 

[mjantz]

Not only that, you check into the background and have references for the child that is going to take care of your child. You expect her to take care of him/her not some random nursery voluteer who could be anyone (smoker, have a criminal background, have a child who is agressive, etc.). I don't take chances with my kids, especially a two year old who may not have the verbal ability to say what goes on.

It is hard enough to leave a two year old, never mind leaving her with some random stranger while your real provider is teaching bible school. NO way. I would laugh in your face in disbelief.

Working parents have enough to deal with. The only thing that keeps me going is knowing that my child is with some I know and trust.

Many churches now require criminal background checks of all volunteers. They also have a policy of never having 1 adult in the room at any time. I do nursery care at my church & even if we have 1 child in our care we must have 2 paid workers.

 

[themilesfamily]

I already give them a big discount since we have become friends and no other daycare will be as cheap as I am

This is the part I can't get on board with. Just because you're friends with someone doesn't entitle them to a discount.

I do agree with a PP who said that some parents will walk all over childcare providers. Start a nanny thread on the DISboards and you'll hear some horror stories, I guarantee it.

I think the OP asked the parents for their okay -- they gave it and she made her plans. If they are backing out at the last minute that's too bad -- they need to stick with what they agreed with -- including paying the OP.

 

[Imzadi]

Psst. I was actually the one that started that rule.

So YOU'RE the one.


Waaa! No one ever quotes me. I don't live such a melodramatic life.

 

[Cool-Beans]

So YOU'RE the one.


Waaa! No one ever quotes me. I don't live such a melodramatic life.

Do you feel better now? For Pete's sake.

(Kitty got an other wild bird. She was all kinds of pissed that I wouldn't allow it IN the house.)

 

[Tink888]

This is the part I can't get on board with. Just because you're friends with someone doesn't entitle them to a discount.

I do agree with a PP who said that some parents will walk all over childcare providers. Start a nanny thread on the DISboards and you'll hear some horror stories, I guarantee it.

I think the OP asked the parents for their okay -- they gave it and she made her plans. If they are backing out at the last minute that's too bad -- they need to stick with what they agreed with -- including paying the OP.

From everything the OP has posted though, it doesn't sound like the parents were EVER okay with having their 2 year old at VBS, which is why they made arrangements for the grandparent to watch her. And for those parents, that's a valid concern. They aren't paying the OP for their child to be watched by strangers in a nursery.

What if the OP were volunteering at a soup kitchen in the city for two hours a day and there was a nursery there to watch kids? Would any parents be okay with that scenario? The principal is the same. The parents are paying the OP for childcare, there will be part of the day the OP isn't actually watching the 2 year old, the church nursery is, and the parents don't want that or want to pay for it.

This whole thing could be flipped around from the parent's perspective:

"We're friends with our childcare provider. She's great and gives us a great rate on childcare. She wanted to volunteer for VBS this year. We're not really comfortable with her leaving her house with our kids but we're getting a good deal and our 12 year old might enjoy it and we said okay. Now we find out our 2 year old will be watched by strangers in a nursery and we're concerned about it and not okay with it. We approached the daycare provider about it and told her we made other arrangements to for daycare for the 2 year old and now she's telling we still have to pay for services we're not going to use while she's volunteering."

OP - no one is saying you are a horrible person or a horrible childcare provider. And I agree with many others that daycare outings are probably nice for the kids as opposed to being stuck in a house all day. But a 2 year old being watched by strangers is a different story. It doesn't matter if they're people from church, it doesn't matter if they've had background checks. To the parents, they're strangers who are watching their child for two hours a day. As a daycare provider and a parent, I'm sure that you can understand their concerns. It's unfair to ask them to pay for that.

And I'm sure that there are childcare providers out there who get taken advantage of every day by parents. No doubt it's a hard and thankless job. But it is still a job that you are being paid to do. The parents are still the customers (at whatever price YOU agreed to) and there is a level of service that is (or should be) agreed upon and upheld from the outset. If the level of service changes, then the price should be adjusted.

If they can't agree or compromise then they should part ways and the parents should find daycare services that they are comfortable with and can afford and the OP can fill the spots with people who want the service she provides.

You can't mix business and friendship and have BOTH parties graying those boundaries whenever it becomes convenient for either of them without expecting problems like this to come up.

The OP wants to follow the rule of business when it comes to payment but not when it comes to volunteering during business hours. The parents want the cheaper daycare rate but strict guidelines.

Neither of them can have it both ways.

OP if you are friends with these people you need to ask yourself whether arguing over less than a hundred bucks a week is an argument worth ending a friendship over. They made a mistake here and so did you.

 

[Imzadi]

(Kitty got an other wild bird. She was all kinds of pissed that I wouldn't allow it IN the house.)

Awww! She's bringing you food. You're the Alpha Cat. She's feeding you.

 

[MushyMushy]

Some of us missed the "only post if you agree with me" memo.

That, plus disagreement with the OP = she's a terrible horrible person who shouldn't be watching children.

Like anyone said or even implied it.

 

[terri01p]

Well, I feel sorry for the OP. I happen to agree with her. Being an in home daycare provider is a thankless job. Parents walk all over you on a daily basis- They bring their children and leave them for 10,11,12 hours. Pay late, pay not enough, pay NEVER..... You name it they think that they can rule your home. They never want you to go on vacation- even when you have told then A YEAR ahead of time but- yeah buddy, they'll tell you a week in advance about their two week vacation and they don't want to pay for either one. And don't EVEN THINK about getting sick---the ONE time in 6 years I called my cdaycare parents to tell them I had food poisoning I had some lady go the Exorcist on me and bring her baby any way-- NO JOKE!!I think that the OP was trying to do a fun thing with the kids and had asked in plenty of time and was given approval in plenty of time. The parents simply changed their minds and are like alot of parents that I have had the disprivlege of knowing over the past few years and think that the world revolves around them. They think that she is Burger King and is gonna make it their way like she has in the past. GEESH! Seriously, This lady has bent over 5 ways to Sunday being nice to people- I say enough is enough. I may sound a little hardened but I have had some bad experiences with not nice people over the years. They think that since you aren't a center they can walk all over you and it is just horrid. I stopped doing daycare because of it and just watch my friends and families children for fun now.... It is much nicer More joy in my heart and it makes me remember why I was licensed in the first place.... Good luck OP and have you some fun at VBS! My kids have been having a BLAST!!!

Well I agree with this post, I myself have never done child care but my sister has and some parents would treat her like a door mat.
I would be so happy for someone to take my kids to VBS, this was a real treat for my kids growing up, these parents don't know what their kids are missing out on.