Vaccine- Autism link proven to be a FRAUD!

[DisneyDorkORama]

Yea, I am done beating a dead horse here . Some people simply refuse to see reason and nothing I can do will change that, even when every fact on the planet is staring them in the face.

So if someone agrees with you..everything is all peachy keen. But the moment someone disagrees with you, you have a problem with it.

 

[princessmom29]

Why You Can't Believe The CDC

http://genesgreenbook.com/content/why-you-cant-believe-cdc

Why can't you believe the CDC when their "numbers" show that vaccines, including the flu shot, are safe and effective? Simple -- because they lied. Here's the evidence.


The Cover-Up

First, some background. One reason vaccines are so harmful is because of the preservatives used in them. Thimerosal, which contains 50% mercury, is one of the most widely used preservatives in vaccines. Mercury is a known neurotoxin, and is the main culprit in the staggering rise of autism cases -- up tenfold in the past 2 decades.

Apparently, the US government has known about thimerosal dangers for some time and has continued vaccinating infants and children with mercury, understanding full well the link to autism and other disorders.

A study conducted by the CDC in 1999-2000 and conducted by Dr. Thomas Verstraeten, confirmed that thimerosal/mercury was statistically shown to be the cause for the rise in autism cases. HOWEVER... in June 2000, a group of top government scientists and health officials gathered for a meeting at the isolated Simpsonwood conference center in Norcross, Georgia, and spent the next two days discussing how to cover up the damaging data.

It seems they were concerned about how the damaging revelations about thimerosal would affect the vaccine industry's bottom line. To this day the CDC will tell you that vaccines are safe and that thimerosal is safe because their study has not shown a link; however this is simply untrue -- because the data was manipulated.

The Proof

The transcript of this meeting, obtained under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) is available at [ http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/library.php ] and [ http://www.safeminds.org/government-affairs/foia/Simpsonwood_Transcript.pdf ]. I am going to quote some interesting excerpts from this Simpsonwood transcript :

* " The number of dose-related relationships are linear and statistically significant. You can play with this all you want. They are linear. They are statistically significant. "
* " We don’t see that kind of genetic change in 30 years. " (in response to the idea that autism is caused by genetic factors)
* " The medical legal findings in this study, causal or not, are horrendous and therefore, it is important that the suggested epidemiological, pharmacokinetic, and animal studies be performed. If an allegation was made that a child’s neurobehavioral findings were caused by Thimerosal containing vaccines, you could readily find a junk scientist who would support the claim with “a reasonable degree of certainty”. But you will not find a scientist with any integrity who would say the reverse with the data that is available. And that is true. So we are in a bad position from the standpoint of defending any lawsuits if they were initiated and I am concerned. "
* " But there is now the point at which the research results have to be handled, and even if this committee decides that there is no association and that information gets out, the work that has been done and through the freedom of information that will be taken by others and will be used in ways beyond the control of this group. And I am very concerned about that as I suspect it is already too late to do anything regardless of any professional body and what they say... "
* " Our first male in the line of the next generation, and I do not want that grandson to get a Thimerosal containing vaccine until we know better what is going on. It will probably take a long time. In the meantime, and I know there are probably implications for this internationally, but in the meantime I think I want that grandson to only be given Thimerosal-free vaccines. "


Am I A Conspiracy Theorist?

How about a "conspiracy realist"? I simply present the facts. This is totally consistent with my framework of understanding based on other data and historical statistics. It is historically proven that vaccines did not wipe out the diseases that plagued humanity, it was better sanitation (covered in another article here). Also, many dog breeders will tell you from firsthand experience that vaccinations are not effective, can cause the very disease they are intended to prevent, weaken the immune system, carry risk of future chronic diseases especially if given year after year, and will even cause death ( http://www.courageouscaucasians.com/vaccinations.htm ).

Conclusion

Vaccinations are definitely to blame for the rise in autism. They are neither safe nor effective. The CDC cannot be trusted. They, in collusion with Big Pharma, have vested interests in promoting vaccines for financial gain.

An this is your UNBIASED FACTUAL source???? Get out the aluminum foil hats!!! Oh wait, aluminum is bad, right??? Seriously, you are resorting to quoting conspiracy theroists to combat scientific fact?

 

[princessmom29]

So if someone agrees with you..everything is all peachy keen. But the moment someone disagrees with you, you have a problem with it.

No, I have no problem with diasgreement, when it is reasoned and based on some sort of factual evidence not hearsay and conspiracy theories. Honestly, I guess I am just stunned that someone could blatantly ignore every fact that is staring them in the face. It is like people who aregue that the world is flat. I will just never get how they cannot see it.

 

[MommyBell08]

I once had a professor tell me after a prticularly nasty class discussion that when someone stoops tp personal attack rather than addressing the issue at hand, it is because they are our of ammo. CLICK.... CLICK....

So by asking me if I believe that the "Disease fairy" cured disease, were you personally attacking my intelligence, of is it that I am so uneducated that you thought I may actually believe it? Let me guess? Ok, im done with this conversation. I really wish you could give me some facts on the effectiveness of vaccinations and why you believe they "cure" disease, it would be nice if it were that easy. I am sorry if I insulted you by the spelling comment, I shouldn't have went there. I have enjoyed hearing you side on the issue.

 

[Leajess99]

We have friends (who live in CA) who are selectively vaccinating their DD. Polio is one of the ones they've chosen to skip, because they feel there is no risk of her contracting polio so they'd rather not risk any possible injury from the vaccine. Obviously they are relying on herd immunity to polio to protect their DD, even if they don't say it in so many words. A close friend of my father's had polio as a child. He lived, thankfully, but was permanently disabled from it. I would never take a chance of that happening to my DD if I could prevent it.

I also think a lot of choice to not vaccinate - and by this I mean those with no underlying medical issues or history spurring that choice - come from fear of the unknown. The fact is, we don't know for sure that vaccines don't contribute to the onset of autism in children. We also don't know for sure that they don't. We'll never know for sure because there are too many other factors involved to accurately test for it - the child's environment, diet, medical history, etc etc none of which we can control unless you get into some creepy X-Files-esque creation of identical test-subject children. So parents, like my friend, figure the degree of certainty that their child will not contract these diseases is higher than the degree of certainty they have that the vaccine will not cause their child harm.

I had a coworker who suffered from polio and was also disabled. There were days when the guy was forced to walk from the farthest parking lot with his crutch type things (not sure of correct name) and it annoyed me to see this becuase all the handicap parking spaces were taken by less disabled people in our building. It was finally fixed so there was a special parking place for him.

I could never imagine what he went through and wish that those choosing to avoid vaccinations just because could walk a few steps in his shoes. I can understand allergic reactions as long as they are known to have happened but not speculative. There are many diseases that can cause a child to lose their speech and I would think that doctors would run the tests for these diseases.

Having a child with a severe speech delay is not fun I understand but it is not uncommon for a child to lose one developed skill when they gain another.

 

[princessmom29]

So by asking me if I believe that the "Disease fairy" cured disease, were you personally attacking my intelligence, of is it that I am so uneducated that you thought I may actually believe it? Let me guess? Ok, im done with this conversation. I really wish you could give me some facts on the effectiveness of vaccinations and why you believe they "cure" disease, it would be nice if it were that easy. I am sorry if I insulted you by the spelling comment, I shouldn't have went there. I have enjoyed hearing you side on the issue.

I don't think I asked you I said "the disease fairy didn't get rid of them." It is a figure of speech. I told my DD yeaterday that the jacket faiy was not going to put her coat away so she had better do it. It was not meant as an insult.
I will look for the specific studies, not articles that quote them, and get back here, because they are the only real ,realible evidence on the hows and whys. It has been a couple of years since I was actively involved in the publication of such stuff.

 

[DisneyDorkORama]

 

[Leajess99]

True, for sure (the bolded), however using logic with no study actually showing any correlation, we don't know for a fact that ANYTHING doesn't contribute to the onset of autism. Without any scientific data that is NOT fraudulent, we could say that milk is just as likely to contribute or maybe oxygen.

Honestly, I feel that the increase in autism rates is due to environmental and chemicals developed through the years. Just look at some of the chemicals and whatnot that have been developed over the years. We use teflon on cooking wear so the food consumed has been exposed to a chemical. There are numerous other chemicals and such that are supposed to make life easier that very well could be what is causing the increase in autism rates. I would love to see the scientists start researching this.

 

[DisneyDorkORama]

So by asking me if I believe that the "Disease fairy" cured disease, were you personally attacking my intelligence, of is it that I am so uneducated that you thought I may actually believe it? Let me guess? Ok, im done with this conversation. I really wish you could give me some facts on the effectiveness of vaccinations and why you believe they "cure" disease, it would be nice if it were that easy. I am sorry if I insulted you by the spelling comment, I shouldn't have went there. I have enjoyed hearing you side on the issue.

 

[princessmom29]

nice propganda poster, but agian, proves nothing. It takes much more mercury than in avaccine to cause those symptoms. Like 100 times more.

 

[Hannathy]

I really wish you could give me some facts on the effectiveness of vaccinations and why you believe they "cure" disease, it would be nice if it were that easy.

No one can give you those facts BECAUSE vaccines don't CURE disease they PREVENT it!!!

 

[princessmom29]

Honestly, I feel that the increase in autism rates is due to environmental and chemicals developed through the years. Just look at some of the chemicals and whatnot that have been developed over the years. We use teflon on cooking wear so the food consumed has been exposed to a chemical. There are numerous other chemicals and such that are supposed to make life easier that very well could be what is causing the increase in autism rates. I would love to see the scientists start researching this.

I am fiarly certian this is being workied on with reference to two or three specific enviormental toxins at one of the top medical colleges. Dartmouth mabye?

 

[princessmom29]

No one can give you those facts BECAUSE vaccines don't CURE disease they PREVENT it!!!

exactly. They produce an immuity so that you never become infected and need a cure. A cure is much more porblematic than simply preventing infection. Taht is why these diseases are the ones we vaccinate for. If the cure were simple, or they could be easily avioded, we wouldn't need vaccines for them.

 

[WeLoveLilo05]

Why can't we just respect each others reasons and decisions to vaccinate or not vaccinate and call it a day.
Because let's face it, those who chose not to vaccinate have done their research and based on that information (both pros and cons about vaccines) they decided it would be best for their child to abstain from vaccinations. The same goes for those who decide to have their child vaccinated.
I wouldn't look down or make someone feel badly for vaccinating/not vaccinating their child, their child, their choice.

 

[DisneyDorkORama]

mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, phosphate, sodium phosphate, neomycin, phenol, acetone, horse blood, pig blood, cowpox pus, rabibit brain tissue, dog kidney tissue, monkey kidney cell, chick embryo, serum etc..


all sounds like healthy and safe stuff I want injected into my child!

 

[Hannathy]

nice propganda poster, but agian, proves nothing. It takes much more mercury than in avaccine to cause those symptoms. Like 100 times more.

No I wish my DD was here she was laughing at this thread today and had looked up mercury poisoning and all the symptoms that are even close to autism symptoms are at the extreme toxic level of mercury poisoning we are talking thousands of times more than in all the vaccines that a child gets with all their shots. She read the numbers to me but I didn't remember them but it wasn't even in the same ballpark.


And my 12 yr old can make a poster on the computer that says anything-if that is all it takes I'll have him make a vaccines are good one and we can quit the discussion.

 

[DisneyDorkORama]

why can't we just respect each others reasons and decisions to vaccinate or not vaccinate and call it a day.
Because let's face it, those who chose not to vaccinate have done their research and based on that information (both pros and cons about vaccines) they decided it would be best for their child to abstain from vaccinations. The same goes for those who decide to have their child vaccinated.
I wouldn't look down or make someone feel badly for vaccinating/not vaccinating their child, their child, their choice.

thank you!!!

 

[princessmom29]

mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, phosphate, sodium phosphate, neomycin, phenol, acetone, horse blood, pig blood, cowpox pus, rabibit brain tissue, dog kidney tissue, monkey kidney cell, chick embryo, serum etc..


all sounds like healthy and safe stuff I want injected into my child!

I don't have a problem with any of it, properly processed. Life saving insulin contains pig pancreas cells!!

 

[Hannathy]

Why can't we just respect each others reasons and decisions to vaccinate or not vaccinate and call it a day.
Because let's face it, those who chose not to vaccinate have done their research and based on that information (both pros and cons about vaccines) they decided it would be best for their child to abstain from vaccinations. The same goes for those who decide to have their child vaccinated.
I wouldn't look down or make someone feel badly for vaccinating/not vaccinating their child, their child, their choice.

Except when their choice endangers me and mine! then it isn't all hunky dory, sorry.

When the un vaccinated become a health hazard in this country then it is my business. And nothing else then when the un vaccinated get sick they are taking health care resources that add to the economic burden of the country.

 

[DisneyDorkORama]

mercury, formaldehyde, aluminum, phosphate, sodium phosphate, neomycin, phenol, acetone, horse blood, pig blood, cowpox pus, rabibit brain tissue, dog kidney tissue, monkey kidney cell, chick embryo, serum etc..


all sounds like healthy and safe stuff I want injected into my child!

Amazing how someone could think that they need all this toxic crap injected into their bloodstream to keep them healthy

"The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines are safe and effective" - Dr. Len Horowitz