Using pools if not a guest

[katyjeka]

I couldn't disagree with you more....so I'm stepping out. As I stated before so many people feel entitled. If you want a nice pool pay for it!!!

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

I couldn't disagree with you more....so I'm stepping out. As I stated before so many people feel entitled. If you want a nice pool pay for it!!!

who is saying that shouldn’t be the case?

 

[Mle8308]

I couldn't disagree with you more....so I'm stepping out. As I stated before so many people feel entitled. If you want a nice pool pay for it!!!

I think that is wise. I tapped out responding, too. They are trolling on two threads.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

I think that is wise. I tapped out responding, too. They are trolling on two threads.

Everyone is just blaming random families staying at value resorts, sorry that I don’t agree with that unsubstantiated claim that massive amounts of families from value resorts are the reason grand Floridians pool is packed.

 

[elvispursley]

Everyone is just blaming random families staying at value resorts, sorry that I don’t agree with that unsubstantiated claim that massive amounts of families from value resorts are the reason grand Floridians pool is packed.

There have been first-hand d accounts of this happening in this thread. And I’m sure this is just the smallest subset that we’ve heard. And it may not always be families from a “value resort” doing this. It could be any guest at the MK, onsite or otherwise, who are taking advantage of a close pool to go have a dip in during the hottest part of the day. Boggles my mind why some are against having g wrist bands for all resort pools and are minimizing how much this occurs

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

There have been first-hand d accounts of this happening in this thread. And I’m sure this is just the smallest subset that we’ve heard. And it may not always be families from a “value resort” doing this. It could be any guest at the MK, onsite or otherwise, who are taking advantage of a close pool to go have a dip in during the hottest part of the day. Boggles my mind why some are against having g wrist bands for all resort pools and are minimizing how much this occurs

Grand Floridian is not exactly a close by pool for any of the value resorts. It requires a decent amount of transportation and a transfer.

Disney is not a huge fan of the wrist bands which is why they don’t offer it for all the pools.

 

[bookbabe626]

Grand Floridian is not exactly a close by pool for any of the value resorts. It requires a decent amount of transportation and a transfer.

Disney is not a huge fan of the wrist bands which is why they don’t offer it for all the pools.

Or a bus to MK and a 15 min walk. Most of the deluxes are easy to get to from a park, that’s one of their selling features…but it also makes them targets for pool crashers.

You’re very defensive about the value guests not being pool crashers. Any specific reason why?

I admire the fact that you seem to have insider information about Disney’s views on wristbands, though.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

Or a bus to MK and a 15 min walk. Most of the deluxes are easy to get to from a park, that’s one of their selling features…but it also makes them targets for pool crashers.

Wait time for bus 15 minutes, then bus ride maybe 15-20 minutes. Then have to go through security and depending on what bringing could trigger extra search and more time. Then you have to still walk to the grand Floridian or somehow get there still another 15-20 minutes.
So far the time necessary is well over an hour and a decent amount of effort and it’s not even certain they could sneak in once they get there! In all that time they could just enjoy the value hotel pool.

You’re very defensive about the value guests not being pool crashers. Any specific reason why?

because they are being blamed when it isn’t them. The value resorts all have decent pools and kid splash pads. To think many of them are trekking to the other pools just isn’t practical. It’s more so the Disney springs people who don’t have a Disney pool as an alternative. Thus the specific reason is because I don’t think it’s the value resort people causing the issue and all the people who toss excessive money at the deluxe resorts are blaming them which is ridiculous.

I admire the fact that you seem to have insider information about Disney’s views on wristbands, though.

The simple fact is the info is out for everyone to see that they do not want to do wrist bands for every single pool. Plus, if they start doing that for the deluxe resorts then they need to do wrist bands for all the resorts, including value resorts

 

[ScarletFire]

because they are being blamed when it isn’t them. The value resorts all have decent pools and kid splash pads. To think many of them are trekking to the other pools just isn’t practical. It’s more so the Disney springs people who don’t have a Disney pool as an alternative. Thus the specific reason is because I don’t think it’s the value resort people causing the issue and all the people who toss excessive money at the deluxe resorts are blaming them which is ridiculous.

Agree! A lot of work for a crowded pool and a slide...

Maybe the Disney Spring's return buses should be limited to resort guests.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

Agree! A lot of work for a crowded pool and a slide...

exactly if it was truly about the single slide then it’s much less work right now to just do a split stay at the value resort to use the water park that day, which has many more slides and obviously better slides.
Even if they have to check out of that room and store their stuff with the bellhopper it’s less work and they get more slides for free………without having to worry about if they will be able to get in or not or having a feeling that they could get kicked out. Plus, it’s easier for them to get to the water park, they can even drive there in this case or take a direct bus.

Maybe the Disney Spring's return buses should be limited to resort guests.

Maybe, if you are staying at a deluxe during holiday times you can’t even use the Disney spring buses as they are absolutely packed and the lines are crazy.

 

[WEDWDW]

Agree! A lot of work for a crowded pool and a slide...

Maybe the Disney Spring's return buses should be limited to resort guests.

WAY too much work.

I could be completely wrong,but I just can't imagine large numbers of Value(I have always said Disney needs to drop that name-many interpret "Value" as meaning "Cheap" which they certainly are not either in price or quality) Resorts Guests going to the trouble.

Now I could see some Pop Century Guests making the short walk and crashing the AoA pools.

But I just don't know that this conversation is happening a lot:

"Kids,I know you like it here at Pop Century/All-Stars and there are Pools as far as the eye can see here,but let's get busy packing up and get on out to the Buses so we can head to Magic Kingdom,go through Security and take a little walk-KIDS WE ARE GOING TO THE POLY-WOO HOO!".

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

WAY too much work.

I could be completely wrong,but I just can't imagine large numbers of Value(I have always said Disney needs to drop that name-many interpret "Value" as meaning "Cheap" which they certainly are not either in price or quality) Resorts Guests going to the trouble.

I agree especially some the art of animation room are regularly $500+ and pretty much always more expensive than many deluxe resorts.

Now I could see some Pop Century Guests making the short walk and crashing the AoA pools.

But I just don't know that this conversation is happening a lot:

"Kids,I know you like it here at Pop Century/All-Stars and there are Pools as far as the eye can see here,but let's get busy packing up and get on out to the Buses so we can head to Magic Kingdom,go through Security and take a little walk-KIDS WE ARE GOING TO THE POLY-WOO HOO!".

Spot on and then factor in the needing a change of clothes to come with you and stuff like that and it just doesn’t make sense for lots of people to do it when they have decent pools and kid splash pads right there.

 

[matt and beth]

Imagine grilling on your back deck and I just venture over and start using your grill at the same time. There’s plenty of room on your grill what does it matter.

Or you pay to go on the golf course and I just venture on at your second hole and start playing along side with my family unpaid because, “there’s plenty of room”.

Or you paid for lawn seats to see your favorite artist and a couple hundred people crash the concert unpaid and take up your space on the lawn.

Or you go to see a movie and people rush in unpaid and take all the seats leaving you to stand in aisle.

Or go to your favorite sporting event and unpaid guests take paid seats leaving the paid guest in standing room only

To those arguing for argument sake do you get it now? Unpaid guests taking the seats, chairs, table, towels, and/or space of paying guests is offensive and not okay. The paid guest paid for the appurtenances that come with the stay. The party crasher did not. Now the paid guest has to pay for the unpaid. That makes the unpaid a thief. They stole from fellow guests and the hotel because someone has to cover the expenses

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

Imagine grilling on your back deck and I just venture over and start using your grill at the same time. There’s plenty of room on your grill what does it matter.

I, along with most people, would immediately call the cops and an unpleasant interaction would unfold. The exact situation Disney prob wants to avoid.

Or you pay to go on the golf course and I just venture on at your second hole and start playing along side with my family unpaid because, “there’s plenty of room”.

There’s lots of videos online of this occurring! The result isn’t pleasant.

Or you paid for lawn seats to see your favorite artist and a couple hundred people crash the concert unpaid and take up your space on the lawn.

“Your space” it seems like the issue is with the people who sold you the tickets. You don’t own all the lawn nor have standing to call the police unlike the property owner.

Or you go to see a movie and people rush in unpaid and take all the seats leaving you to stand in aisle.

Easy, I’ll leave and ask for a refund

Or go to your favorite sporting event and unpaid guests take paid seats leaving the paid guest in standing room only

I’ll tell the usher to have the person in my assigned seat to leave.

To those arguing for argument sake do you get it now? Unpaid guests taking the seats, chairs, table, towels, and/or space of paying guests is offensive and not okay. The paid guest paid for the appurtenances that come with the stay. The party crasher did not. Now the paid guest has to pay for the unpaid. That makes the unpaid a thief. They stole from fellow guests and the hotel because someone has to cover the expenses

You are making this assumption that it is unpaid guests taking up the space, but there could also just be a lot of paid guests there. you really are just tossing the world “thief” and “stole” out in an inappropriate context and using the terms completely wrong. Y’all are siting here blaming these imaginary people instead of Disney for not increasing hotel capacities and not building larger pools.

The lengths people go to in order to not blame Disney for anything is incredible.

 

[matt and beth]

 

[Carouselofplanning]

I didn’t even consider the “good neighbor” type hotel guests but that’s a real possibility. There are many ways to do this - one of them is via a breakfast dining reservation where you just drive up to the resort.. The other of course is a monorail or boat ride from MK. If you have a backpack or stroller you have the ability to bring a swimsuit.

Of course the other issue (and more frequently likely) are the locals. They come enough to know all the loopholes and what Disney does and does not enforce.

I don’t think it’s any one particular guest type. It’s a mix of quite a few that happen to have a brazenly selfish personality trait in common.

 

[GADisneyDad14]

I don’t think it’s any one particular guest type. It’s a mix of quite a few that happen to have a brazenly selfish personality trait in common.

This.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

I didn’t even consider the “good neighbor” type hotel guests but that’s a real possibility. There are many ways to do this - one of them is via a breakfast dining reservation where you just drive up to the resort.. The other of course is a monorail or boat ride from MK. If you have a backpack or stroller you have the ability to bring a swimsuit.

Of course the other issue (and more frequently likely) are the locals. They come enough to know all the loopholes and what Disney does and does not enforce.

I don’t think it’s any one particular guest type. It’s a mix of quite a few that happen to have a brazenly selfish personality trait in common.

Bingo, it’s mostly the locals, especially on the dates the pirate pass is blacked out. I saw it with my own eyes all the people going to and from Disney springs not staying at the grand Floridian. They were all locals during the holiday time.

Edit: I disagree though that this single action is enough to claim this whole group has “a brazenly selfish personality trait in common” as this one instance doesn’t demonstrate that.

 

[Moonspinner]

You think only guests should be able to drink at bars at resorts? How is Disney going to sit there a police all the nooks and crannies to make sure it’s only guests staying at the resort?

Hey, I would rather not be able to find a place to sit at Disney than not be able to find a place to sit outside Disney /s/

Armbands to even be on the resort, oh like a magic band………….

You think the DVC owners at the contemporary, poly, and grand, will like to be told they can’t go to any of the other two properties during their trip. That should go over well……….

Disney encourages guests staying at other resorts to visit the different resorts on their trip….

In a perfect world, no. Of course it is nice for people to occasionally visit resorts where they are not staying. But that’s not the only thing happening nowadays. There are people who live in Orlando effectively using hotels as their living rooms and offices. They advertise it on YouTube. Unfortunately today the majority feels entitled to use private property as if it is public property. So yes, Disney will eventually have to impose manners and restraint on the population. They are already starting to do this.

 

[Isthisnormalatdisney]

In a perfect world, no. Of course it is nice for people to occasionally visit resorts where they are not staying. But that’s not the only thing happening nowadays. There are people who live in Orlando effectively using hotels as their living rooms and offices. They advertise it on YouTube. Unfortunately today the majority feels entitled to use private property as if it is public property. So yes, Disney will eventually have to impose manners and restraint on the population. They are already starting to do this.

How are they starting to do this besides the pool situation?

Do people really watch YouTube videos of these people doing this to make it profitable? It seems kind of boring plus it’s a bit of a hike for them to get to the resorts and I bet they already have an annual pass

Isn’t the whole point of Disney to be a welcoming place to all?