Use Year question - sorry

[famcruisefun]

Ok - another question as we await our packet of updated info from our guide.

If we buy SSR from Disney right now, what use year are they selling? I think I've read Dec or Feb. So, say we buy 300 SSR points next week with a Dec use year. That means that on 12/01/06 we get 300 points for use until 11/30/07. Now comes my puzzlement: Because we are purchasing now and will be in the system before 12/1/06 - will we get 300 points that are available right away - basically our points for 12/1/05-11/30/06?

How does it work with a resale? If we buy points from Disney for BWV we get the use year of the old contract - could be any month. But if we bought BWV points from Disney - would we immediately have points or would we have to wait until the next use year begins?

I hope that isn't totally confusing. Thank you for your help if you can understand my question.

 

[Boston5602]

It is my understanding ( I own BWV Dec U/Y ) that if you bought that right now , since you would be in your 2005 U/Y you would get 300 points now and then another 300 points Dec 1 2006 , to start your 2006 U/Y.

good luck

 

[Caskbill]

Disney gives current year points with a new purchase. So if it's a December UY month, you should get 2005 points because today is still in Dec '05's use year.

Note these points would expire Nov 30, 2006. However, Disney also allows banking points for a new purchase, even though it would be past the banking deadlines. Thus you can bank points into your Dec /06 UY, and then receive 300 regular points on 12/1/06, giving you 600 points basically right away.

How does it work with a resale? If we buy points from Disney for BWV we get the use year of the old contract - could be any month

I think you made a typo and meant to say from Resale.

If you purchase resale, none of the above applies. The points you get will be whatever is in the contract. It could be loaded, having points banked, or it could be stripped, meaning no banked points, no current points, and possibly the following year's points already borrowed and used. This is one reason why one should look at resale contracts carefully, as the beginning point balances can make a big difference in the 'value' of the purchase.

Also note, if you purchase resale and it's a different use year than your current contract, the new purchase becomes a totally new master contract and will have a new membership number. You would need to manage the contracts totally separate from each other, meaning you cannot combine points at 7-months to make a reservation. And also, the points are not combined to determine banking amounts at the various banking percentages, but are treated totally separately.

 

[MIDisFan]

With the current incentive to buy SSR you do not get 2005 points. You will get your first set of points on Dec 1, 2006. 2006 use year points. I'm not sure about add on or resorts other than SSR.

 

[famcruisefun]

So - if we buy SSR right now with the discount, we wouldn't have any points until the start of the use year.
Does anyone know what happens if we buy BWV (really our favorite resort) right now from Disney (and yes, I understand that we might have to waitlist for points to be available at BWV, and that the use year is whatever the old contract was)? Because the discount doesn't apply - would we get this year's points?
We're looking to do a trip that will take more points than we would normally use in a year next year - so having 2005 and 2006 points to use would be perfect - would probably be the straw that breaks the check-writer's back.
Thanks for your help!!

 

[RobDoc]

As noted, the current incentive at SSR will not get any current points since they are selling units not yet open. Those contracts will have a December Use Year and the first available points will be December 1, 2006.

Purchase of any of the other resorts will come with current points ( a December Use Year - if available - would have 2005 points available). DVC will sometimes allow these points to be banked immediately if you can't use them. Be aware that not Use Years are immediately available.

Even if a December Use Year is not available, you would get current points from any Use Year and could also borrow points from the next Use Year. (If you got a February Use Year, you would have all points from the Feb 06 UY (and could bank those), all points from the February 07 UY and could even borrow from the February 08 UY for a trip between February 1, 2007 and January 31, 2008.



Enjoy!

 

[MIDisFan]

If you are considering SSR, you could always look at renting or having points transfered from another member for your trip next year. It sounds like you really are leaning towards BWV anyways, so you should call a guide to get the most accurate information. I believe for BWV it is $95 per point and you would get the current years points.

 

[abbydancer]

I was told by somebody in Quality Assurance that they have started selling February use year. I think that means that December is sold out?

Also, I thought the reason why buying SSR doesn't include 2005 is that they are selling future development, so there are no points available to use. The impression I get is that the points they give you have to be usable when you get them.

I had originally asked for an April Use Year based on our vacation pattern (I have since switched back to December) and one question I asked was whether I could borrow 2007 points for our upcoming Disneyland trip. The guide who was helping me with it (our guide was away) told me he'd have to check if our building would be ready by the time I wanted to borrow the points. So that's what I'm basing the above on.

abby

 

[MIDisFan]

I was told by somebody in Quality Assurance that they have started selling February use year. I think that means that December is sold out?

Also, I thought the reason why buying SSR doesn't include 2005 is that they are selling future development, so there are no points available to use. The impression I get is that the points they give you have to be usable when you get them.

I had originally asked for an April Use Year based on our vacation pattern (I have since switched back to December) and one question I asked was whether I could borrow 2007 points for our upcoming Disneyland trip. The guide who was helping me with it (our guide was away) told me he'd have to check if our building would be ready by the time I wanted to borrow the points. So that's what I'm basing the above on.

abby

Abby, your paperwork should have a date that says "estimated date unit is available for occupancy". It's right above the estimated closing date. You and I are only about a week apart on the paperwork and mine says November (I forgot exactly what date). Your's should be close to the same time. I don't see you having any problems borrowing 2007 points after the 1st of Dec.

 

[abbydancer]

Abby, your paperwork should have a date that says "estimated date unit is available for occupancy". It's right above the estimated closing date. You and I are only about a week apart on the paperwork and mine says November (I forgot exactly what date). Your's should be close to the same time. I don't see you having any problems borrowing 2007 points after the 1st of Dec.

That's pretty much what the Guide I spoke to said. It, however became a moot point when he looked at the record and said a new set of paperwork was on it's way with a December UY. In the interest of speeding things up, I asked if we could sign the April UY paperwork we already have. He said that if I wanted to go back to the April UY a third set of paperwork would have to be sent.

At that point I decided to go with December - we're ready to push this forward, and we'll find a way to use the points somewhere, even if it's an "expensive" getaway weekend through the conceirge collection. (More likely use some at DL - add a night we hadn't planned on when borrowing, and bank the rest for a big trip in 2008 calendar, 2007 UY).

So, in about an hour I'm going to the fed-ex office to pick up the December paperwork and will sign them today.

thanks,
abby

 

[edstewbob]

Our Dec UY agreement for SSR says estimated availability date for occupancy is Nov 7 and estimated closing date is Nov 20.