UPDATE:Posts 50,53,54! Oops...I did it again! Miss Piggy does DxDP, Sept. 2010"

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The title says it all. We keep saying no more Deluxe...and then we do it again. Miss Piggy said "Never eat more than you can lift"...I guess I can lift too much, lol, cuz we always end up stuffed, no matter what.

This time, we decided to try the "2 restaurants a day version" of doing the deluxe dining plan...the version everyone always says "the trick is to have just 2 restaurant meals a day" so you don't get stuffed: "just" one regular table service meal and one 2 TS signature place. Guess what?

We found out you're still stuffed. It's still too much food. Will we ever learn:confused3

But, for the most part, we enjoyed it. And it is a discounted way to try out more Disney restaurants, especially the signatures. Our experience is the one signature restaurant about covers the cost of the plan for the day, so the rest is gravy. Ultra rich, ultra thick gravy. Fried. With dessert. Yummmmmmm

We were staying at Boardwalk, and planned mostly Epcot-time this trip, so here's the line up for our September deluxe weekend:

Friday night:Yachtsman Steakhouse at Yacht Club/Epcot Resort area, followed by leisurely stroll around World Showcase with an emphasis on trying non-traditional adult beverages in the World (non-traditional by our standards...meaning not the frozen slushies from France, but actually going into the country's shops and seeing what was available.)
Yachtsman Steakhouse Beverages & Starters, Post 2 Page 1, and Entrees & Dessert, Post 12


Blue Glow Margarita from La Cava del Tequila
Posted #8

Further Alcohol Musings, Friday night, World Showcase ImbibingPosted #17

Saturday Breakfast: pastry from Boardwalk Bakery for breakfast, then Epcot at rope drop. Posted #25

Saturday Lunch at Via Napoli/Epcot/Italy. Posted #27

Saturday Dinner at Flying Fish/Boardwalk. Posted #43

Sunday:Boardwalk Bakery for breakfast. Post #50

Sunday break Dole Whip break, Aloha Isle, Post #53

Sunday Lunch Liberty Tree Tavern, Post #54

Using up the Snack Credits, MSB Cinnamon Rolls and a DxDP summary, post #55
 
Well, have to 'fess up: we've previously been of the opinion that the Disney signature restaurants are probably not worth the signature status nor the prices. But we decided to test our theory with two signature restaurants on this Deluxe Dining weekend. After a couple of weeks of loverly seafood on the Gulf coast, we figured we'd be ready for some good beef, so we headed to Yachtsman Steakhouse for an early dinner (5:30 p.m. ADR)

We started with adult beverages. DH chose a Sam Adams Boston Red Brick, $6.oo...this variety is not on the latest menu that's showing on Disney's own website, but I found a description that said this beer is an "Irish Red Ale." Well, I don't know Jack about beer, so have to believe in the ultimate wisdom of the fount of all knowledge (Google.) Whatever this beer really is, DH enjoyed it, and pronounced it a fine beer. I originally thought I'd get a tall glass of frosty frozen umbrella-ish goodness, then I thought maybe a martini to get my money's worth on the booze...but since I was really hot after hiking around the "ocean" from the Boardwalk to the Yacht Club, well... I went for refreshing: the Pomegranate Splash, which is Skyy Infusions Citrus Vodka, PAMA Pomegranate Liqueur, Monin Pomegranate, and Cranberry Juice topped with Soda Water $8.50 (Disney's website says this is $8.25, but the price has apparently gone up because the receipt says $8.50) This drink was remarkably light & refreshing. It tasted more like a very nice glass of juice spritzer, but it actually did have a real kick to it (which I found out by drinking it just a bit too fast, lol.)
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Our waiter brought a basket of fresh, warm rolls, served with roasted garlic(scrumptious) and sea salt butter that for some reason was swimming in a sea of olive oil. Guess that was so you'd have a choice of what type of fat to slather on your bread? Or give you the option of multi-greasy goodness? Anyway, the pull-aparts were outstanding! Crunchy toasted onion flakes on top were delish...could have eaten a basket full of these rolls but they only gave two. We didn't request more because we've fallen for that Disney ruse before...fill you up on warm yeasty breads, and then you skip key courses you've already paid for. We were on to them, lol...so we stopped after one roll to save room. Would have to say these rolls are in a tie for best Disney bread....right up there with that lovely warm Hawaiian bread and macadamia butter over at Kona Cafe.
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In the basket, under the onion pull-aparts, were standard oval dinner rolls, dusted with flour. Meh: these were definitely the Wonder Bread of dinner rolls. Not worth soaking in olive oil. We each just tried one bite, and left the remains These rolls were totally forgettable. To be honest, if the other rolls hadn't been so tasty, these probably would have impressed more...
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Although we heard the siren call of the scallops on the appetizer menu (we lurve scallops,) we decided to defer the seafood to Saturday night (Flying Fish ADR) We chose to experiment with dishes we have never had...our own little adventures-in-dining. Figuring I like all manner of slimy shellfish, why not try snail...it's like the slimy shellfish of the land, right? So I chose the Escargot, which was served in a Garlic-Herb Butter with a slice of Puff Pastry, for $13. The snails were scrumptious but that butter sauce was super rich (so of course I loved it!) The puff pastry was perfect for wicking up that lovely garlic-butter. Excellent appetizer, would order it again in a heartbeat.
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For his app, DH chose the Charcuterie for $14. This item is not on Disney's website menu...it's supposedly a "seasonal offering" (guess that means it's now Duck Season, lol.) The Charcuterie is basically a cold meats & cheese platter with a little bit of veggie accompaniment (the pile of flora in the middle of the platter under the sausage ovals included marinated cukes and some onion slivers) The meat is several versions of duck. Not sure what type of cheese these actually were...one was a bit smokey tasting and fairly firm white cheese, the other was harder-shell outside & semi-soft center (sort of like camembert?) Both were tasty...and we really enjoyed the shaved meat, but the duck sausage? Have definitely had better sausage....this just was not impressive. Don't know how they managed this, but it was both greasy & dry? Almost an "Ewww" on the duck sausage. And unfortunately, it's too bad we didn't just go "eww" and leave it, because I think that's what gave hubby & me some stomach issues later that night.
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Great review so far! I'm in. Going next week on the DxDP and have never done DP before. We have a signature booked every night fr dinner and our other meal wil be like brunch and I was going wouldn't be too stuffed- ha ha.

I was just trying to decide between yachtsman and flying fish after out day at HS so I am looking forward to your trip report!

I may have to do one of my own when I get back. I just got a new camera too with a food setting:) These reports have helped me so much. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so maybe that will do!

Thanks!
 

Hi, Cat! :wave: I'm loving your description of the Yachtsman Steakhouse. Can't wait to read more. :)
 
Great review so far! I'm in. Going next week on the DxDP and have never done DP before. We have a signature booked every night fr dinner and our other meal wil be like brunch and I was going wouldn't be too stuffed- ha ha.

I was just trying to decide between yachtsman and flying fish after out day at HS so I am looking forward to your trip report!

I may have to do one of my own when I get back. I just got a new camera too with a food setting:) These reports have helped me so much. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so maybe that will do!

Thanks!

I'll give you a quick preview ahead of the official finish on the reviews...I actually cancelled a January ressie for Yachtsman and booked Flying Fish instead.
 
Little bit out of order, but was working on uploading & editing my photos, and this one just looks so refreshing (sitting in hot Florida right now) So I have to share this nice cold...BLUE...drink with all of you: it's the Blue Glow Margarita from La Cava del Tequila in Mexican Pavillion/Epcot. Very tasty (tart, not sweet) and very strong...and expensive! Two of these were $29 plus tip. But they don't skimp on the booze in these drinks (like they do outside at the kiosk selling frozen margaritas...yuck & weak out there.) Also, that price includes the blue glow cubes. Which, by the way, have incredibly long-lasting batteries. One of our glow cubes got jammedi n the "on" position in the suitcase. It has been blinking non-stop since Friday September 17! It's still going strong on day 9. I actually had to put it in a metal box because it was annoying, lol.

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Oooh that drink looks and sounds so good. I know they aren't cheap there but man that are worth it :cool1:
 
Oooh that drink looks and sounds so good. I know they aren't cheap there but man that are worth it :cool1:

:thumbsup2I know, right?:thumbsup2

And they actually are very big drinks--not your little 5 oz. beverage in a 10 oz cup. They pour a good drink in La Cava.
 
Your Yachtsman review makes me think I made the right choice in adding it to our line up! Thank you!

I am along for the ride!
 
For entrees, we wanted us some rare beef, so DH & I both ordered the Yachtsman “Prime” New York Strip Steak 12-oz Strip Steak, Peppercorn Brandy Sauce, and White Cheddar Potato Gratin 42.00 There's also a bit of green veg included on the plate.
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OK, when we first were called to be seated, the hostess made a production of stopping by the butcher window which you have to walk past to get to the seating. She explained the butcher was "custom" cutting strip steaks from prime aged beef. Well, I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday, as my Granny used to say...and frankly we were not impressed as ALL steaks are "custom cut" no matter where they come from. I mean, it's not like there's a steak plant out there where the steaks are uniformly grown to the same size & shape. The steak always has to be cut to order. Anyway, this step in the seating process was kind of bizarre, we thought. We've been to restaurants where they have all the steaks sitting in a cold case over in an alcove, and you pick which steak you want. Not here...no, you just look through a picture window at a butcher in a fridge whacking away at a slab o'beef. Whoa, ain't that fancy-schmancy. Not really...I can actualy watch this kind of chop-the-beef-show at my local grocery-store meat dept. back in Nebraska any day of the week. Heck, I can even request a "custom cut" at my local store. Just don't understand why cutting the steaks in front of the clientele is supposed to impress us with how good the beef is?

OK, back to the cooked food. Frankly, the star on the plate...drum roll please: Was the potatoes ;) Yeah, I know they look kind of nondescript on the plate, not real purty to look at. But I'm an Irish girl so the song of the taters is "in my heart and in my soul, and on my hips, as I grow old " (to paraphrase vintage Rod Stewart.) But seriously, these au gratin potatoes really were the outstanding feature on this plate! The.Best.Au.Gratin Taters.EVAH. Instead of chunks of boiled taters (or the cheater version involving frozen hash browns) this dish was layers of scalloped potatoes glued together with really, really good, slightly sharp White Cheddar. No blarney: this is tater heaven. The veg was a little smear of cooked spinach, totally beneath our notice, fer shure. We both left the spinach.

You've probably noticed by now that I haven't said much about the steak. OK, here goes: severely underwhelmed. This steak...which both Miss Hostess & Mr. Waiter (and Ms. Menu, for that matter) all make a point of telling you is "Prime" beef...well: Sorry. Tasted more like mediocre sirloin. And tougher than a lot of sirloin I've had. Seasoning seemed to be mostly a salt rub on the steak itself, though the peppercorns were of course quite peppery and the brandy sauce gave it a nice boozy gravy. But frankly, without that sauce to dip it in, the meat was just about tasteless. It was grilled perfectly rare as we requested so the issue wasn't with the cooking, just the meat itself was well below expectations.
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It just wasn't that good...I gave mine no more than a "B." Not bad enough to send back, but no WOWZERs either. When I decided not to finish mine, hubby finished it. He said mine was actually better than his...his was more like a C+ ...just slightly above average. We've actually had better steaks at Outback (I know, sacrilege...but have to keep it real here.) We've also had far better steaks at other non-signature Disney restaurants, including Le Cellier, The Wave, Kona Cafe, Turf Club and Grand Floridian Cafe. And all of those places were 1 Table Credit places. Heck, we ate at the other restaurant at Yacht Club -- Captain's Grill -- in September 2009, and hubby said his steak at Capt. Grill was better than the Yachtsman Steakhouse. This steak was certainly not a $42 entree, IMO. $20, maybe. $30 because it was at Disney, maybe. But no way worth $42.

Moving on to dessert. I chose the Signature Banana Napoleon which is "Custard, White Chocolate and Banana Mousse, and Crispy phyllo, $9.00" This was good, albeit slightly difficult to eat, The custard (rectangular portion with the chocolate wafer on top) was delicious--like a cross between cheescake & creme brulee), but the phyllo with banana mousse was almost impossible to cut into with just a fork: could have used a sharp knife! "Crispy" phyllo was a bit of an understatement...it was so crispy it almost exploded when I did manage to chop a chunk. Once I got it into mouth-size pieces, it turns out, some phyllo layers were tough, some crispy which was probably why it was so difficult to cut through/bite through, until you hit a crispy layer, and that just crumbled. Tasted good, just a mess to eat. The mousse between the layers of phyllo was delicious, and it had an extra strong banana flavor...so strong I kind of wondered if they used a banana liqueur for flavoring. The dessert was good: I ate most it.
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Hubby was looking for something light, so chose the Sorbet Trio, which is "Pineapple-Chili, Passion Fruit-Coconut, and Strawberry-Basil sorbet" for $7.00 This is actually a very large bowl of sorbet, so not all that "light" on the dessert scale. However, two of the 3 flavors had serious flavor issues, so hubby didn't eat much of it. The Pineapple-chili was excessively sour pineapple sorbet with pepper flakes sprinkled on top. Don't know how they found pineapple this sour, but someone should have tasted it & added some sugar! And the pepper...really? I mean, Really? Pepper flakes on your sorbet? You know, the kind they have in shakers at pizza restaurants. Don't know about you, but this idea went right past these midwestern palates. No thanks: sour pineapple & pizza pepper flakes are not an appealing dessert combo. The passion fruit/coconut should have been a pleasant duo, but again the fruit was incredibly sour, and the coconut must have been the unsweetened version because it did nothing for that sorbet. Again, we kind of wondered when exactly did the recipe for sorbet drop sweeteners? Because if they were depending on extra sweet fruit to handle the "sweet", someone should have tasted the fruit, lol. Which brings us to the only good tasting combo: the strawberry-basil. Well, actually,the basil was kind of a strange choice to combine with strawberry, but it pretty much worked. At least the strawberry sorbet was sweet! I wouldn't usually put such a strong savory on a sweet fruit for a dessert (for a salad, of course, sure) but we are all about trying different things, so this experiment worked out OK. Truthfully, if he was hungrier, he probably would have sent this dessert back for something different. But Hubby had about enough room for one scoop of sorbet, so that's what he ate...the strawberry basil. The other two pretty much puddled in the bowl while we waited for our check. The triangle thingy sticking out is a coconut extra-crispy cookie-like substance. I say cookie-like because it was more like a cross between a cracker & a cookie. Looked like it should be very sweet, but it was just mildly sweet. Guess it went with the surprise theme of this dessert...Surprise! NOT a sweet~:laughing:
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Alrighty, summing up Yachtsman Steakhouse...great service, slightly better ambiance than other Disney restaurants (and by that, I mean the tables were about 18 inches apart instead of 12 inches apart. So for double the cost, you get an extra 1/2 foot. Still way too close together.) Still too many children in there (I'm a mother of 4, been there, done that. Would never, in a million years, have taken any of my terrifically well-behaved kids to that kind of restaurant before the age of about 16. Maybe even 18. Total waste on kids...and most detract from the supposed ambiance. Love kids. Just not at expensive restaurants. Wish someone would explain to me why anyone would choose a 2 TS non-character-non-show signature restaurant to celebrate a 1 yr old's birthday? Not an extended family who's eating there & just happens to also be celebrating a birthday dinner. No, this was just the mom, dad, and baby. Really? I mean REALLY? Course the truth is the baby was fine throughout the 90+ min. meal, it was the extremely annoying mother who was the PITA. She put on this over-the-top-extra-loud-ultra-sing-song-voice every time she spoke to the baby...and kept that up through most of the meal telling him how clever/darling/wonderful/polite/big boy/sweet/handsome he was every time he used his spoon/took a drink from sippy cup / cooed / smiled / chewed / swallowed / breathed / blinked. You get the picture. And it wasn't a matter of she just had an unusually loud voice...nope. When she talked to her hubby - across the table - we could not really hear or understand a word she said. No, she just put on that cloying-fakey-wonder-mommy-of-a-wonder-child-voice while talking to baby, who was sitting right next to her. ACK! Like I want to spend $80 a person and have that as the floor show. Children should be seen & not heard, and so should Mommy, lol. I'm sure I'll get a flambeau for that little diatribe, but OH WELL! There's a time & a place for birthday babies in restaurants...and it's called early meal times at Mc Donalds....or Chucky Cheese.

The service was good, albeit very slow. Artificially slow, actually. This was the same experience as we had at the Cali Grill a couple of years ago. This weekend, we timed our 4 table service meals...the 2 signature meals were 95 and 100 minutes. The 2 NON-signature waiter/menu meals were 55 and 65 minutes (were also waiter/menu meals, not all you can eat family style or buffets.) We had adult beverages, apps, entrees, and dessert at 3 of the 4 restaurants so no extra courses adding time at signature places...they just paced everything out more. I appreciate not being rushed through courses, yes. But I would more appreciate not waiting for the next course, too. It was not busy in Yachtsman while we were there...majority of tables were empty. So I think they could have timed the food a bit better. But I guess they figure people won't feel they got their money's worth on "signature" dining if it's a short meal.

The total cash cost of our meal would have been $144 (including tax) but of course the DxDP covered all of that. We paid for booze & tip using our favorite little piece of plastic: the Disney Visa Rewards card (which we lovingly refer to as our other 'DDP' card...as in Disney Drinking Plan card ;-) We've had a great time for the last 3 years with the Visa Rewards card...we run Daughter's college room & board through the card...that produces many Disney Rewards $$$ for lots of loverly parental reward beverages. Don't know what we're going to do next year...she graduates in May...no more big bills to rack up the rewards points. ACK! We'll have to pay cash OOP. Will be a totally new experience for us, lol.

Anyway, scoring Yachtsman Steakhouse on 1-10 scale...sorry, just a 5. Just average.
:-( Would we return? No. Would we recommend? No. Over-priced and under-quality. Hope Flying Fish is better, otherwise I'm cancelling January reservations for signature restaurants and going into "never-again" mode!
 
We took my in-laws to the Yachtsman in 2002 to celebrate their 40th anniversary, and I didn't come away feeling overly impressed for what we spent. The filet we ordered had a liver-y kind of flavor to it. Later that same trip, we ate at Boatwright's and got similar liver-y tasting meat but for half the price. The experience had me wondering just how "prime" the Yachtsman's beef was.
 
And now the second half has me worried:lmao:

well, I have to say, don't be put off on just one review - I know I've read good reviews of Yachtsman and we might have gotten an "off" night, too, you never know.

...could be the "non-prime" steaks are much better, too. I almost ordered the ribeye (those are usually fattier, so more "juicy"...I love ribeye) but went with the "prime" that was so heavily praised. Should have known better...I think they push it because that's what they have the most of in the kitchen. I just have to remember to stick with my "gut feeling" when it comes to what's going into my gut, lol.
 
We took my in-laws to the Yachtsman in 2002 to celebrate their 40th anniversary, and I didn't come away feeling overly impressed for what we spent. The filet we ordered had a liver-y kind of flavor to it. Later that same trip, we ate at Boatwright's and got similar liver-y tasting meat but for half the price. The experience had me wondering just how "prime" the Yachtsman's beef was.


well, ours definitely tasted better than liver, lol. Just didn't evoke "prime", ya know.
 
Well, after our not so satisfactory meal at Yachtsman Steakhouse, we headed over to World Showcase and rode Maelstrom. After that we headed for Mexico, and took a look at the new La Cantina(counter service) menu...having never looked at the old La Cantina menu, can't say if it has major changes, but the menu looked interesting, for sure. Especially the several types of margaritas on the counter service menu:)

The place was nearly full at 7:45, so it looks like people are enjoying the La Cantina again.

We decided to head into the Mexican pavilion and since we were walking that night, we went to try our luck at La Cava. As previously posted, we enjoyed the blue margaritas. There drinks are large...I couldn't finish mine, so DH was there to shoulder the extra burden, What a guy: after 35 Years of marriage, he's still my willing helpmate. What a guy, lol! Here's the happy guy getting a "glow" on:
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Anyway, after finishing our margaritas, riding the Mexican boat with Donald Duck and doing a little shopping in the Mexican market there, we decided to wander back around the World Showcase and maybe scope out a better view for Illuminations. It was a hot and humid night, though, so by the time we got around to Germany we were thirsty again...and hubby was yearning for a German beer. I'm just not a beer drinker, but I saw the Wine Cellar place back there in Germany, and figured that was the place for me. Meanwhile, hubby saw the line (LONGGGG line) at the beer kiosk outside Germany and followed me into the Wine store to see if maybe they pulled beer in there too. Sorry, no such luck. The guy in there did tell us that once the caramel store opened, they would be closing the candy store next to the wine store and turning it into a beer hall, but for now, only wine available in there. Sooo, hubby went and got into that long line for beer.

Now, I know next to nothing about German wine but Georg, the nice man behind the counter, was very helpful, asking me if I preferred red/white, dry/sweet, etc. When I said white, & somewhat sweet, he recommended "Diva", a Gunderloch Spatlese Riesling . A 4 oz pour was $6.57 with tax...and well worth it. Very smooth, great tasting sweet white wine. Loved it. Only thing wrong with it was the 4 oz size. Sorry, no picture...but you've seen white wine. They pretty much all look the same. Would highly recommend this one if you're in the vicinity of Germany, though.

So I had this conversation with Georg, he opened a bottle, poured, and I paid, and waited while Georg kindly wrote down the name & maker of the wine for me. Then I wandered slowly out of the store (so as not to spill a precious drop!) I look over at the beer line, and poor hubby is still at least 15 people back from the counter (and has at least 25-30 people behind him in line, too.)

So I sit down on a bench in front of the Teddy Bear store & people-watch, while taking teeny-tiny sips of my delicious wine (wanted to drink with hubby, lol.) And after awhile, I happen to notice that people are going in and out of the counter service place just next to the toy store. So I start watching the people IN the restaurant. And lo and behold, I finally notice (DUH!) that quite a few of the people with trays of food have...BEER on the trays. So I get up and walk around the corner...and I see an empty line at the counter service place...NO ONE in line. And sure enough, they have the SAME BEER on the menu in there as they have at the outside kiosk. DOH! Double DOH!.. I turn around to tell hubby, and he's just arrived at the counter and is giving his order at the outside kiosk. Forehead slap, major! So as he waits for his beer, I go tell him what I just found out. Didn't help him any, but the last half dozen people in that line were wrapped back around by the front of the line, so they heard me...and they all looked at each other & made a bee-line for the indoor counter service. So I helped some strangers get fast beer before Illuminations...it was about 8:55 by this time, so those at the end of the outside line were not going to get their beer before Illum. started if they stayed in that outside line.

So: note to Dis friends...if you're wanting a German beer, and there's a long outside line...try the counter service place instead!

Anyway, we wandered over to the lagoon wall, just in front of Germany, and over to the side a little, to watch Illuminations. I enjoyed my Riesling, he enjoyed his beer and we both enjoyed really enjoyed Illuminations. I think that was probably the best viewing spot we've had in many years...or maybe it just seemed better when viewed through alcohol fumes...was a lovely conclusion to the evening.
 
That is one place DH will not go to again, the Yachtsman. It was his favorite for many years but the last time we ate there the quality of the meat was not like it was in past trips.

Flying Fish has the most incredible NY Strip, Todd orders it every single time and he just loves it!
 
Thanks for the reviews, and for the warning!

My mother and I are going to be doing 15 days on the Deluxe Dining Plan in December, and your reviews are extremely helpful...I'm just happy that I lost so much weight in nursing school, lol!
 
That is one place DH will not go to again, the Yachtsman. It was his favorite for many years but the last time we ate there the quality of the meat was not like it was in past trips.

Flying Fish has the most incredible NY Strip, Todd orders it every single time and he just loves it!

Good to know...and ironic, that the good signature restaurant for steak is a seafood place. The magic of Disney, lol.
 















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