Totally agree with this. As it stands right now and in the recent past this has been my experiences.
Why everyone is up in arms without experiencing it for themselves is beyond me.
AGAIN here is some booking advice 1st week of Dec low crowds = short lines
Christmas/NYE week big crowds = long lines
Simple
Yeah, we have been to Universal as well. They have done a lot. Mostly motion/video rides Transformer, Minions, Simpsons (which do get pretty 'predictable' after a couple of rides.. as most rides do) . Harry Potter.. excellent job and still getting better I agree too that Epcot could really use an update. Captain EO .. Really? Universe of Energy.. yikes, and some new countries to visit would be real nice too. HS could use a few of those motion/video rides on Streets of America.. How about that? How bout a Mickey and gang ride like Star Wars?? But I try to remember, as well, that we go a lot. Being spoiled like that tends to lead to boredom in some people. Those that only come to Disney once or twice in a lifetime, probably see things a whole lot different. But , I digress.. this is off the subject matter of this thread.. (unless of course this thread was started just to bash Disney) I don't think that is so though.
I think all these FP+ complaints are a little comical. One says it takes too much planning, the next says it affects all our extensive planning. Some seem to think it gives special treatment to people who don't get there at rope drop, some it's not enough FPs, others it gives away too many FPs. Some are assuming they are taking away the FP-, although I don't see how they can for the day visitors. Sounds like most are just looking for an excuse to complain. The OP obviously has serious personal problems in their life. I'm sorry to hear that as we have had some things pop up that may affect our trip in three weeks as well, but sometimes you have to roll with the punches. If not being assured of getting 8 fast passes a day (which sounds a bit exaggerated but I'm not a commando) is reason enough to not go, then I guess you are making the right decision. But I will say, I have talked to several people already who don't go to Disney because of the lines and like implementation of the new FP+ system. Knowing they don't have to be there at rope drop makes Disney a more inviting destination they are more likely to visit. Folks like those are likely to be replacing those who back out because of it. So if you think you are stickin' it to Disney by canceling, I think Disney will be just fine without you. The resorts, high demand restaurants and high demand attractions are all booked solid. All those surveys Disney does surely addressed this before they spent a billion dollars putting it into use so obviously, a lot of somebody's liked the idea.
We'll be there in three weeks. The vast majority of posters who have already experienced the changes have had a positive response. I expect we will as well. But that's the difference between me and the OP. Everyone is different but I choose to see the glass as half full where as the OP seems to see it half empty.
Truly hope things improve in your life as I hope my own trials pass smoothly. With time, Disney will get it right for the masses. Not everybody will be happy but then again, they never are.
21 Days to the Happiest Place on Earth!!!
You know, it doesn't even have to be fancy. I mean one of our must-dos is Maelstrom. It's a boat. With trolls. Objectively, there's nothing that great about it, there are many other boat rides at Disney. And somehow, it's still so awesome it has among the longest lines in the park, and people get upset every time it closes down for a few minutes.
Not every ride needs to be Test Track or Everest in order to be good fun, in other words.
They could make more rides out of Soarin's tech, too. I still enjoy flying over orange groves but wow, there are so many other places we could go!
.... We enjoy it ! AT MK..Even the Country Bear Jamboree still cracks us up. Ha!
Sometimes these mislead people is all. IE .. EMom cancelling her vacation was probably influenced by all the misinformation and confusion presented in these posts. I feel sorry that she cancelled a vacation that may indeed just have been the stress reliever her family needed after a bad year. Glad I wasn't under that decision.
(At least I don't have to come to my "meetings" at Disney prepared with PPTs. 
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Keep your arms and legs inside the ride at all times! And don't forget your watch. My Magic+ supporters. My Magic+ haters.
Round 5,325,654.
FIGHT!
maxiesmom said:
I think all these FP+ complaints are a little comical. One says it takes too much planning, the next says it affects all our extensive planning. Some seem to think it gives special treatment to people who don't get there at rope drop, some it's not enough FPs, others it gives away too many FPs. Some are assuming they are taking away the FP-, although I don't see how they can for the day visitors. Sounds like most are just looking for an excuse to complain. The OP obviously has serious personal problems in their life. I'm sorry to hear that as we have had some things pop up that may affect our trip in three weeks as well, but sometimes you have to roll with the punches. If not being assured of getting 8 fast passes a day (which sounds a bit exaggerated but I'm not a commando) is reason enough to not go, then I guess you are making the right decision. But I will say, I have talked to several people already who don't go to Disney because of the lines and like implementation of the new FP+ system. Knowing they don't have to be there at rope drop makes Disney a more inviting destination they are more likely to visit. Folks like those are likely to be replacing those who back out because of it. So if you think you are stickin' it to Disney by canceling, I think Disney will be just fine without you. The resorts, high demand restaurants and high demand attractions are all booked solid. All those surveys Disney does surely addressed this before they spent a billion dollars putting it into use so obviously, a lot of somebody's liked the idea.
We'll be there in three weeks. The vast majority of posters who have already experienced the changes have had a positive response. I expect we will as well. But that's the difference between me and the OP. Everyone is different but I choose to see the glass as half full where as the OP seems to see it half empty.
Truly hope things improve in your life as I hope my own trials pass smoothly. With time, Disney will get it right for the masses. Not everybody will be happy but then again, they never are.
21 Days to the Happiest Place on Earth!!!
Did you read my first post on this thread? I stated that I thought you were doing the right thing for you. Because, it's much better for someone to cancel rather than go, be miserable and then come here to complain.
I don't take it personally. I do think it's tiresome to hear all the gloom and doom but I do have an awareness that some just aren't happy unless they're miserable. Some don't adapt well to change. And yes, many are spoiled.
I'll say it again. If you don't agree with the changes, don't go.I fail to see why that's a "mean" thing to say. I think that people really expect that Disney will say, " The X family hates FP+. Quick, put it back the way it was!
" It won't work like that, because most people not only don't mind it, they like it. There will be plenty of people to take the place of the disgruntled. That's not snarky, that's just being realistic.
don't feel bad,, this thread is loaded with misunderstood posts. There even seems to be a 'Dr Pepper squirting out her nose' person that makes it all logical.. ooops.. I did it again..
It makes me a little sad to think that not everyone got to go when it wasn't scheduled like a busy work day. And 10 years ago and earlier, it wasn't. You could treat it like a normal vacation - schedule your travel, book your room, and then just show up and have fun. Decide when you got out of bed what park you felt like going to. Eat what you wanted when you wanted. Our honeymoon trip in '99 is still probably my favorite, because of the utter freedom we had to just Be At Disney. There was a time you could go to Disney without a watch and still eat steak in Canada on a whim.
About 10 years ago it started changing. Now if you want anything other than counter service and potentially long waits for things, you schedule, plan, figure out which park is open which hours, check the crowd websites, rearrange your schedule, decide 6+ months out where you are going to go on which day, mark your calendar with the 180 day dining reservation dates, search and book tables, schedule some more, realize you have to change something, frantically try to find a new reservation time, etc. Now they want me to carry my cell (which I prefer to leave locked in the safe, because... I'm on vacation!) to keep up with their app too. I was looking at our Christmas trip reservations yesterday, and due to the addition of FP+ on top of ADRs we have as many "appointments" on the calendar for each day at Walt Disney World as I have in the average day at work. This amused me. Heh.
Of course we still go (a bit less often, sadly), and of course we still have fun because DISNEY, but it is now hyper-scheduled fun on super-scripted rails.
Ok, I have searched and cannot locate the Ignore Button. Can someone please help me out? I wish I would have known earlier.
