UPDATE Michael Jackson rushed to the hospital (He Has Died)

[kwelch10377]

I have no problem with the good and bad of his life being discussed. I do have a problem with the folks who state that they know that he molested children. They don't know. No one knows except those involved. The rest of us will never know for sure.

I just thought it was disrespectful for that to be brought up before he was even pronounced dead. Many of us were shocked and saddened by the announcement and worried. We really weren't in the mood to see him raked over the coals at that time.

He is gone. Now, every little detail of his life will be scrutinized. At this point, it doesn't matter to me. I will remember him for his great talent and the pleasure I got listening to his music.

Couldn't agree with you more on this. Yes, it was a fact that he was accused of certan things, but it was not a fact that it did the things that he was accused of.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

What I don't get when celebrities die are the people you see holding the celebs picture bawling like he was one of their family members.

I truely feel for Farrah Fawcett. Cancer is a horrible disease and I'm sure she suffered in her last days of life.

As far as MJ goes. I was a child of the '80's. I loved his music and wanted to dance like him. Alot of his problems he brought on himself, with the changing skin color, obsession with children (not saying he molested anybody), how he came about to have his children, his children wearing masks, and dangling his baby out the hotel room window. I do feel for his family and friends also that he is gone.

But as I said I don't understanding someone hysterical over a complete strangers passing. That always made me wonder.

 

[C.Ann]

Lots of pages here since I logged off last night..

Caught a brief bit of news this morning that reported his family stated he died as a result of a morphine overdose.. They were aware that he had addictions and had been very concerned and were trying to convince him to go into rehab right up until yesterday.. (Don't know if any of this is true - just what was reported..)

Something was also mentioned about the children having no "biological" connection to the Jackson family, so none of those people would necessarily be at the top of the list in terms of being granted custody.. (Again - don't know if it's true..)

 

[SamRoc]

What I don't get when celebrities die are the people you see holding the celebs picture bawling like he was one of their family members.

I truely feel for Farrah Fawcett. Cancer is a horrible disease and I'm sure she suffered in her last days of life.

As far as MJ goes. I was a child of the '80's. I loved his music and wanted to dance like him. Alot of his problems he brought on himself, with the changing skin color, obsession with children (not saying he molested anybody), how he came about to have his children, his children wearing masks, and dangling his baby out the hotel room window. I do feel for his family and friends also that he is gone.

But as I said I don't understanding someone hysterical over a complete strangers passing. That always made me wonder.

I understand what you are saying, but sometimes a celebrity will become a part of someones life. There are a few people that I have admired in my life that are celebrities that i would definetly cry for. Their songs can get you through tough times or just watching them on film can make your problems disappear for a few hours. Thats what entertainment is all about. To take you away from your normal life for a short while and to make you realize how really lucky you are. I go to concerts with some of my favorite singers, and the rest of the world disappears. And yes i would shed tears for them when they pass, as they have bought me such pleasure.

 

[Feralpeg]

What I don't get when celebrities die are the people you see holding the celebs picture bawling like he was one of their family members.

I truely feel for Farrah Fawcett. Cancer is a horrible disease and I'm sure she suffered in her last days of life.

As far as MJ goes. I was a child of the '80's. I loved his music and wanted to dance like him. Alot of his problems he brought on himself, with the changing skin color, obsession with children (not saying he molested anybody), how he came about to have his children, his children wearing masks, and dangling his baby out the hotel room window. I do feel for his family and friends also that he is gone.

But as I said I don't understanding someone hysterical over a complete strangers passing. That always made me wonder.

When I was a teen, I loved Peter Duel. He was my fantasy love. I had yet to have a real boyfriend, so he was the center of my ideal. I had his pictures all over my room and I couldn't wait each week to watch him. When news came of his death, I was devastated. It felt like I'd lost someone I really knew. Sometimes, we do became attached to celebrities. I think it is an okay outlet for people to give affection and get back something they need. It is only natural for them to feel a great loss.

 

[atmtcprincess]

talking about the good and bad is 100% a fair representation of his life. It doesn't matter what day we are discussing it on. I think it is key, that upon his death we remember his life. ALL of his life, not just the 'good' parts. Why is that so hard for people to understand.

I think the media has been more than fair in covering an accurate picture of his life.

Stating facts isn't 'speaking ill' no matter how ugly those facts may be.

The world isn't only black and white. It is ok to see Jackson as an incredibly talented musician and performer AND a tortured soul who was accused of some very disturbing things. BOTH are parts of who he was and in remembering his life we need to remember everything.

I understand where you're coming from. No, he wasn't a saint. No one walking around on this earth can claim to be one. I'm not saying everyone should just forget about the bad associated with his life, I'm saying when someone dies they shouldn't immediately be talked about in a negative light.

Imo, the media hasn't been fair. With the exception of MTV, almost every station I turned to last night was talking about the child molestation charges or his financial troubles within a couple of hours of his death. It was like they were letting the handful of bad things outweigh the over 30 years of good he had done. I feel like I heard about the negative things more than his influence in music and entertainment and his humanitarian efforts. At least let the man have a few hours of respect paid to him before you bring up those accusations.

But everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect yours.

 

[roliepolieoliefan]

When I was a teen, I loved Peter Duel. He was my fantasy love. I had yet to have a real boyfriend, so he was the center of my ideal. I had his pictures all over my room and I couldn't wait each week to watch him. When news came of his death, I was devastated. It felt like I'd lost someone I really knew. Sometimes, we do became attached to celebrities. I think it is an okay outlet for people to give affection and get back something they need. It is only natural for them to feel a great loss.

I understand what you are saying, but sometimes a celebrity will become a part of someones life. There are a few people that I have admired in my life that are celebrities that i would definetly cry for. Their songs can get you through tough times or just watching them on film can make your problems disappear for a few hours. Thats what entertainment is all about. To take you away from your normal life for a short while and to make you realize how really lucky you are. I go to concerts with some of my favorite singers, and the rest of the world disappears. And yes i would shed tears for them when they pass, as they have bought me such pleasure.

I understand what you are both saying. There are celebrities that remind me of my childhood, teen years and early adult years. But as attached as I am to some of the celebrities and group bands, I certainly don't know them personally, so I have no real connection other than the entertainment aspect they have given me.

For example, I loved Andy Gibb and Shaun Cassidy (did I admit that in public) I was sad when Andy Gibb died and thought what a waste of life at such a young age, but I couldn't imagine crying for him. When I hear his song to this day , "I just want to be your everything". It brings back fond memories of getting together with close friends, talking boys , school, and our future and blasting 45s from our stereos in our bedroom. I smile and think of the wonderful memories.

Feeling sad OK, but crying , I just don't get it. Guess I'm not as emotional as some people.

 

[Caribbeanprincess]

I'm working on a Michael Jackson Tribute video and I could use all the help I can get. Details in my video, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5nlBct8wGw

 

[Mrs.Toad]

Something was also mentioned about the children having no "biological" connection to the Jackson family, so none of those people would necessarily be at the top of the list in terms of being granted custody.. (Again - don't know if it's true..)

No biological connection? Was donor sperm used? I hadn't heard that, I thought he was their bio dad.

Even so, that would be really odd. Lots of people don't have a biological connection to their children, but that doesn't matter. The legal connection is the important one.

I just hope he had a will that clearly spells out who is to care for the kids, so that they don't have to go through a legal battle in addition to the loss they are suffering.

 

[lovetoscrap]

TMZ is reporting that it looks like he may have been injected with an overdose of Demerol. If this is true and is what killed him then I think that makes this even more tragic and sad. Like Anna Nicole, to have been mishandled by those around him that he trusted and have that ultimately lead to his premature death is so unnecessary.


Seeing the photos of his kids posted on another thread I don't see how anyone can think he is the bio. father. You look at the entire Jackson family and their skin tone (and Michael's original skin color way back when!) and then at the kids. NO WAY MJ is the bio father--Those kids are whiter than I am!

 

[ginna74]

I'm working on a Michael Jackson Tribute video and I could use all the help I can get. Details in my video, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5nlBct8wGw

you cut yurself off... it says to send it too thee........... well that is what I get

 

[lovetoscrap]

INTERESTING! TMZ is now saying that Debbie Rowe never had her parental rights terminated and so she IS first in line for custody (I assume of the older 2) and that surely she will petition since the kids equal $$$$ . I hope what ever happens they can go to someone that will love them for THEM and protect them and keep all 3 of them together.

 

[Kurby]

TMZ is reporting that it looks like he may have been injected with an overdose of Demerol. If this is true and is what killed him then I think that makes this even more tragic and sad. Like Anna Nicole, to have been mishandled by those around him that he trusted and have that ultimately lead to his premature death is so unnecessary.


Seeing the photos of his kids posted on another thread I don't see how anyone can think he is the bio. father. You look at the entire Jackson family and their skin tone (and Michael's original skin color way back when!) and then at the kids. NO WAY MJ is the bio father--Those kids are whiter than I am!

what thread shows his kids?

i know there was a magazine that had printed photos of the oldest with the veil - but i can't find it now.

 

[DisneyBlonde]

what thread shows his kids?

Pics MJ's children

 

[Kurby]

those aren't the pictures i saw but it is the oldest boy i saw though i thought he was blonder - maybe it was just the lighting.

they are adorable

 

[ArielRae]

 

[Deb in IA]

Michael Jackson, Heath Ledger, Anna Nicole Smith, Elvis, Judy Garland . . . the list goes on and on.

So sad.

As for all the other stuff, Michael was undoubtably an incredibly, amazingly talented individual, who single-handedly shaped the pop music and music video scene in the 80's and 90's. His influences continues in today's music.

His personal life is well known. But for all the sensationalism, remember that he was never criminally charged, and the one civil case was settled out of court.

And no, I am not a hugh MJ fan. I do think, especially from "Thriller" on back, he was an amazing entertainer, whose talent and vision cannot be denied.

 

[KELLY]

I really don't know how people can say they kids are his bio kids or not. Just by looking at them doesn't mean a thing. I have 2 girls one that doesn't look like either my husband or I . He has blond hair and I have a light/ash blond hair and my dd has dark red hair and looks nothing like us. My younger dd looks like a combo of both of us. But neither one of my girls looks nothing like me at all. But my niece could pass as my twin. The poor man dies and know we are picking apart his family.

 

[livie1205]

I think a donor was used for the kids and she handed them over to him to raise.I hate to think of a women who sold her kids to get them BUT i thought she tried to get some custody a few years ago and was forced out...I may be wrong.I do not think there will be much money for ANYONE to get he was 500 million in debt!

 

[luvsJack]

I understand what you are both saying. There are celebrities that remind me of my childhood, teen years and early adult years. But as attached as I am to some of the celebrities and group bands, I certainly don't know them personally, so I have no real connection other than the entertainment aspect they have given me.

For example, I loved Andy Gibb and Shaun Cassidy (did I admit that in public) I was sad when Andy Gibb died and thought what a waste of life at such a young age, but I couldn't imagine crying for him. When I hear his song to this day , "I just want to be your everything". It brings back fond memories of getting together with close friends, talking boys , school, and our future and blasting 45s from our stereos in our bedroom. I smile and think of the wonderful memories.

Feeling sad OK, but crying , I just don't get it. Guess I'm not as emotional as some people.

I think, for me anyway, there are some entertainers that have an impact on your life or maybe have been such a part of your life that it is devasting when something happens to them. Maybe not like losing a family member but still.

I cried for days when Elvis died. I was only like 13 or 14 then but me, my sister and my mom had all been huge Elvis fans. I had grown up listening to every Elvis song (can still sing every one word for word) and watching Elvis movies, etc. It was like seeing the end of a legend for me.

I started listening to MJ back in the J5 days. I loved Donny and the Osmonds and the J5. I remember seeing him sing "ABC". Last night when they were playing MJ videos, I had tears running down my face. Not because I was mourning his death exactly. His whole adult life has just been so sad and I think it was just sad to see him as he was and what he had become. Of course DH took one look at my tears and said, "Lord help us if anything ever happens to Johnny Depp!"