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[Minnie1222]

If anyone's viewing it as a double standard I'd say it's you, based on your comments. As in you're glossing over how APs are treated at WDW and saying somehow Universal is treating APs worse when they are being given the ability to purchase a 1-day ticket that non-APs don't have that option. People didn't even really think APs would get something with Epic Universe and they are so it's a bit like looking a gift horse in the mouth here.

I never said Universal is treating their APs worse. I'm saying the outrage would be much worse at Disney if the same thing were to occur. People get upset at Disney for leasing their space to a cake shop that sells a $20+ slice. I can't imagine the level of disapproval if Disney had asked guests to buy tickets to the current parks in order to see a new park.

 

[Lewisc]

. I can't imagine the level of disapproval if Disney had asked guests to buy tickets to the current parks in order to see a new park.

The issue is moot. Disney won't be opening a 5th gate in our lifetime. Or our grand kids lifetime.

Disney and Universal borrow ideas from each other. Disney will probably think this is a good idea.

Existing tickets, AP and multi day, weren't initially accepted at the AK.

Universal isn't making us buy tickets to other parks. Single day tickets will be available prior to park opening.

 

[Minnie1222]

But hasn’t it been announced that the single day AP tickets are a separate allotment and not part of the 3 day bucket? So the package sales don’t have any bearing on AP single tickets necessarily.

They may or they may not. My main concerns were the number of tickets allotted for certain days and the number of APs that wanted those specific days. As of right now, I have two consecutive packages for July and one package for the opening weekend (yes, I changed my mind and bought another one). My plan is to go back on 10/24 to buy several more 1-day Epic tickets around the same time as my existing packages. If I succeed, then we will have numerous days at Epic by the end of July. If I don't, then at least we'll have 3 days at Epic.

 

[Minnie1222]

The issue is moot. Disney won't be opening a 5th gate in our lifetime. Or our grand kids lifetime.

Disney and Universal borrow ideas from each other. Disney will probably think this is a good idea.

The point is Disney did not ask non-APs to buy a package to MK, Epcot, and HS in order to see AK during the opening year.

Existing tickets, AP and multi day, weren't initially accepted at the AK.

Epic is not accepting existing Universal tickets and APs either.

Universal isn't making us buy tickets to other parks. Single day tickets will be available prior to park opening.

I am fully aware of that. See post #1183 for my reasoning.

 

[Lewisc]

The point is Disney did not ask non-APs to buy a package to MK, Epcot, and HS in order to see AK during the opening year.


Epic is not accepting existing Universal tickets and APs either.


I am fully aware of that. See post #1183 for my reasoning.

We have no idea how many single day AP EPIC tickets will be made available. We have no idea how long it will take them to sell. Prior to that information being available your reasoning has no validity.

Disney unilaterally decided to limit AP access via a reservation system. I think that's far more egregious then your Universal speculations.

 

[CAPSLOCK]

The point is Disney did not ask non-APs to buy a package to MK, Epcot, and HS in order to see AK during the opening year.

Nor did Universal ask non-APs to buy a package. Single tickets will be available. They may be limited, but they'll be available.

The fact that they released the multi-park tickets first is just excellent strategy, as evidenced by people with APs buying multi-park tickets.

 

[emmabelle]

Booked 3 nights in December. standard queen was $314+tax. Going to buy 2 - 1 day tickets on Thursday. If I don't like the price I can always cancel the room.

I just want to see the land so I'll keep the room because I don't want the hassle of taking buses. I'm paying $357+tax for std queen since it's only 2 nights.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Nor did Universal ask non-APs to buy a package. Single tickets will be available. They may be limited, but they'll be available.

The fact that they released the multi-park tickets first is just excellent strategy, as evidenced by people with APs buying multi-park tickets.

Not to mention AK, the last new park for WDW, opened in 1998. Even if you use DCA, that opened initially in 2001. Opening year takes on a new meaning.

 

[FunluvinJ23]

Does anyone know if Universal will use a system similar to Disney regarding AP soft openings? Also, do you think the openings will only be limited to Premier and Preferred passes or will be open to all passes?

 

[Minnie1222]

Nor did Universal ask non-APs to buy a package. Single tickets will be available. They may be limited, but they'll be available.

The fact that they released the multi-park tickets first is just excellent strategy, as evidenced by people with APs buying multi-park tickets.

I'm not complaining about Universal's action. Am I not the only one here, so far, that have bought multiple packages despite my entire family being AP holders? Why would I do that if I disagree with them?

I was just mentioning the double standard some people have for Disney, and apparently it triggered quite a few.

 

[rangebob]

Does anyone know if Universal will use a system similar to Disney regarding AP soft openings? Also, do you think the openings will only be limited to Premier and Preferred passes or will be open to all passes?

I think any annual pass can purchase the 1 day tickets to Epic.

 

[clarker99]

Looking at UK ticket sites and for 2025 you can buy a 14-day ticket to UOR which gives you only 1 EPIC day, which is ridiculous.

Or wait till 2026 where you can buy a 14-day ticket and get unlimited access to EPIC.

 

[NOLA_Tink]

...That said, stupid people can use any word they want in stupid ways, so I cannot exclude you might have heard that...

Dear homies,
No need to stir the pot and call peeps stupid.
It’s just not being kind to each other.
If you do not agree with a statement, work your differences out privately.

We are adults and Shakespeare is dead.

When I receive a complaint from any poster, I take it seriously.

The OP was referring to my Sicilian family being stupid for recalling that Moors are African Muslims who have been a target for racism. I was trying to remind him/her that we did not come up the the term/reference.
Not sure why I was re-quoted here and not the other poster; but, I do agree that it should be dropped.
ETA: I asked my spouse for perspective and they said, "When I think of 'moors,' I think of Scotland, but when you hear 'Moor,' you probably immediately think of your people."
I think perspective is everything and I was curious about other's perspectives.

 

[tony67]

Looking at UK ticket sites and for 2025 you can buy a 14-day ticket to UOR which gives you only 1 EPIC day, which is ridiculous.

Or wait till 2026 where you can buy a 14-day ticket and get unlimited access to EPIC.

Yeah - that one is a bit much - even 1 day with the 5 day ticket is a bit much IMO - I really think it should have been 2.

I'm not complaining about Universal's action. Am I not the only one here, so far, that have bought multiple packages despite my entire family being AP holders? Why would I do that if I disagree with them?

I was really tempted to buy the 3 day one for opening day, but I figure Ill wait and try for the AP ones on Thursday.
If I don't get it Ill just wait till Sept\Oct during HHN or hope for a soft opening opportunity.

I really want to be there for the open, but if I don't make it I am far less concerned that I will have issues getting in alter in the year with an AP or a 1 day ticket.

As for the Disney\Universal thing - well I have a long history with Disney and really had enough around the mid 2000s.
AP got to the point they are not worth it IMO.
I've gone back a few times here and there and I don't feel I got my moneys worth or that the quality was what it was in the past.
They also raised prices pretty drastically without adding all that much that was worthwhile to me.

Universal had been pretty fair all along - I had an AP going back to the first year on and off - and I've never felt like I was ripped off.
As an AP holder they have made some exception to policies that I did not expect and the customer service has always been better than Disney in my experience.

More recently they have done some things I don't like with HHN or cutting small things in the parks - still the positives have far outweighed the negatives. So much like the Disney folks that cut Disney a lot of slack for a lot of years, I am cutting them some slack well they get the new park open and get some money flowing. Six months from now I may feel differently - but lets at least give them a chance. Don't worry - I will be hear to complain if they don't live up to my expectations.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I understand the issue surrounding 1 day limit but I think that was expected all along. I know I voiced my concerns over only having 1 day but I had already thought that part was confirmed and adjusted my expectations. On this thread there was also that whole discussion about purchasing 2 ticket packages to get an additional day. I don't know if the system knows to block that or if USO even cares if people do that.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I was just mentioning the double standard some people have for Disney, and apparently it triggered quite a few.

People aren't triggered (which is now almost always used in a derogatory way), but they are offering a rebuttal to your viewpoint and don't seemingly agree with it.

 

[clarker99]

Obv the ticket structure is meant to be a deterrent and it will work to temper demand. For me personally, there is no way I am taking the family all that way to visit Epic 1 time and I am not buying 2 ticket packages. So, I am looking at 2027-ish. C'est la vie. Epic isn't going anywhere.

 

[CAPSLOCK]

On this thread there was also that whole discussion about purchasing 2 ticket packages to get an additional day. I don't know if the system knows to block that or if USO even cares if people do that.

Multiple packages = more money. I don't think they don't care if 5 different people buy a package or 1 person buys 5 packages. If you buy a package and don't use all the US/IoA entitlements... so much the better from their perspective.

The point is Disney did not ask non-APs to buy a package to MK, Epcot, and HS in order to see AK during the opening year.

I was just mentioning the double standard some people have for Disney, and apparently it triggered quite a few.

Saying "Disney did not ask non-APs to buy a package" strongly implies that Universal did. Universal did not. That's what triggers the rebuttal.

 

[CAPSLOCK]

It's like the HHN tickets - they offer the highest premium item (single night tickets) first before offering releasing the other ticket options (multi-night passes). Except for Epic, the highest premium item is for people to buy multi-day multi-park tickets.

 

[Duckbug.Ducktales]

I was just mentioning the double standard some people have for Disney, and apparently it triggered quite a few.

Yes, this is definitely a thing that exists. Just like earlier in this thread someone saying Disney doesn't fix thing--as if Universal did when one can point to many examples to the contrary. The opposite of the double standard you mention also exists, imo not so much in overblown criticism of Universal as it doesn't get as much attention, but on brushing away some of Disney's actions. I think it's all just tribalism, and the internet is certainly known for that.

As someone who enjoys both resorts, I would suggest we just leave it as nobody's going to convince anyone of anything, and we just focus on the ticket rollout and other EU news