Unfair :(

[ShayBells]

Lol, sometimes it is a piece of the process of change. I adore my children. When I found out my fourth was another boy I cried for about 10 minutes over the girl I'd never have. Then we went to lunch and named him. When I found out about the fp+ Stuff I panicked and was bummed. Then I griped to my husband for a wee bit. Talked to my mom and sister. Remembered why we were taking the trip which has nothing to do with rides...and then moved on. I would gather that people are at different stages in the process and a vent isn't hurting anything. I'm just tired of the whole "you are an ungrateful wretch if you don't just put a smile on your face and move on because others in the world have it worse" That is obvious. Name any problem and someone somewhere has it worse. My moms cancer was only colon. She should have just sucked it up because others had worse cancers.

That wasn't my point. Sure people are allowed to be upset. It's human nature. My point was to be happy you have a vacation at all. Be upset something isn't working than feel blessed that you get to go on vacation. Look for the positives.

When my Cousin got cancer her parents were upset but they felt blessed when she lived.

Counting your blessings and feeling lucky isn't awful.

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[Jeslynb]

I'm saying that It could have been common knowledge, as it was on their website.

It could have been common knowledge, but it isn't. Most people don't know about it. It was not on any part of their website that I used back in September. I only received a pop-up message in my account inviting me to try the new features within the last month.

Did I spend significant time cruising the website for the latest info? No - I reasonably assumed that the system worked as it had previously until Disney notified me of the change in my account.

Moreover, in MY account, which is not linked with any resort stay, there are now links to FP+, MBs etc. It would be reasonable to assume that I am able to use those features, whatever they might be, since they appear in my account and I am invited to use them. Nowhere in my account does it state that to use the features, I have to be a resort guest.

In fact, in response to my email a few weeks ago asking how to use the new features, Disney apologized for the "confusion" since ALL accounts appear to link to FP+ and MB even if the user is not eligible for those programs.

So, I am going to modify my earlier statement and say that not only was it not clear on the website that there was new technology available only to on-site guests, the website in fact erroneously suggested that all users could access the new technology.

I mean, look, I don't really care one way or the other. I'm sure we'll have a great trip, and if we don't we won't return.

But perhaps lay off the implication that those of us who were unaware of the change simply didn't "read the website" or so something else similarly obvious and simple.

 

[richard39]

Goto legoland instead

 

[Granny square]

That wasn't my point. Sure people are allowed to be upset. It's human nature. My point was to be happy you have a vacation at all. Be upset something isn't working than feel blessed that you get to go on vacation. Look for the positives. When my Cousin got cancer her parents were upset but they felt blessed when she lived. Counting your blessings and feeling lucky isn't awful. Sent from my iPhone using DISBoards

Just because someone vents doesn't mean they aren't counting their blessings. Just like your cousins parents, my mom, and more than likely those who get to go to Disney even though they are bothered by the current issues. Otherwise they would probably just not go.

 

[Jeslynb]

Goto legoland instead

Post on another site instead.

 

[BayouMickey]

Just because someone vents doesn't mean they aren't counting their blessings. Just like your cousins parents, my mom, and more than likely those who get to go to Disney even though they are bothered by the current issues. Otherwise they would probably just not go.

Problem being, this is supposed to be a Disney informative site, not a venting or psychoanalysis site.

 

[Granny square]

Problem being, this is supposed to be a Disney informative site, not a venting or psychoanalysis site.

Lol, I'm sure the mods could move the thread if THEY thought it was inappropriate.

 

[Jeslynb]

Just because someone vents doesn't mean they aren't counting their blessings. Just like your cousins parents, my mom, and more than likely those who get to go to Disney even though they are bothered by the current issues. Otherwise they would probably just not go.

Very true. I'll never understand why people are territorial about what can and cannot be posted. I've listened to people vent here for years about things I don't care about (construction! rides closed! dining plan changes!) and it never occurred to me to call them ungrateful or ask them to stop posting.

 

[ShayBells]

Just because someone vents doesn't mean they aren't counting their blessings. Just like your cousins parents, my mom, and more than likely those who get to go to Disney even though they are bothered by the current issues. Otherwise they would probably just not go.

Okay I still feel like my point was missed. I wasn't trying to be mean or snarky. The OP asked for advice. My advice was to look at the overall picture. If you focus on good and put the bad out of your mind than you can have a good vacation. The mind is an amazing thing. And mind over matter actually works.

It was my opinion. I'm allowed to have a good one just as much as you are allowed a bad one.

I will state again it was not my intention to be mean but to state a positive thing. I guess there's no use for that. Be negative. It doesn't hurt me any.

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[Jeslynb]

Okay I still feel like my point was missed. I wasn't trying to be mean or snarky. The OP asked for advice. My advice was to look at the overall picture. If you focus on good and put the bad out of your mind than you can have a good vacation. The mind is an amazing thing. And mind over matter actually works.

It was my opinion. I'm allowed to have a good one just as much as you are allowed a bad one.

I will state again it was not my intention to be mean but to state a positive thing. I guess there's no use for that. Be negative. It doesn't hurt me any.

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I didn't think you were being mean or snarky!

 

[BayouMickey]

Okay I still feel like my point was missed. I wasn't trying to be mean or snarky. The OP asked for advice. My advice was to look at the overall picture. If you focus on good and put the bad out of your mind than you can have a good vacation. The mind is an amazing thing. And mind over matter actually works.

It was my opinion. I'm allowed to have a good one just as much as you are allowed a bad one.

I will state again it was not my intention to be mean but to state a positive thing. I guess there's no use for that. Be negative. It doesn't hurt me any.

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[Gina-Gina-Bo-Bina]

Problem being, this is supposed to be a Disney informative site, not a venting or psychoanalysis site.

According to the Disboards home page, its a "discussion" site .

 

[butterflygirl812]

It could have been common knowledge, but it isn't. Most people don't know about it. It was not on any part of their website that I used back in September. I only received a pop-up message in my account inviting me to try the new features within the last month. Did I spend significant time cruising the website for the latest info? No - I reasonably assumed that the system worked as it had previously until Disney notified me of the change in my account. Moreover, in MY account, which is not linked with any resort stay, there are now links to FP+, MBs etc. It would be reasonable to assume that I am able to use those features, whatever they might be, since they appear in my account and I am invited to use them. Nowhere in my account does it state that to use the features, I have to be a resort guest. In fact, in response to my email a few weeks ago asking how to use the new features, Disney apologized for the "confusion" since ALL accounts appear to link to FP+ and MB even if the user is not eligible for those programs. So, I am going to modify my earlier statement and say that not only was it not clear on the website that there was new technology available only to on-site guests, the website in fact erroneously suggested that all users could access the new technology. I mean, look, I don't really care one way or the other. I'm sure we'll have a great trip, and if we don't we won't return. But perhaps lay off the implication that those of us who were unaware of the change simply didn't "read the website" or so something else similarly obvious and simple.

September of THIS year?

 

[Angel Ariel]

I'm saying that It could have been common knowledge, as it was on their website.

While I'm not disputing that there may have been something about testing on their site at this time last year, it was NOT information about the test as the test is happening now. The testing happening now is much different than the testing that was happening last Nov/December, both in product being tested (i.e. no more tiers for FPs) and in the scope of the testing (i.e. all resorts now, as opposed to randomly selected guests on ME last year).

Disney didn't announce the rolling out/testing of MyMagic Plus (including naming MM+) until January 2013...so again, while there may have been something on the site last year at this time, it was not about the testing as is *currently* is happening. So I really find it difficult to believe that anyone can say it was "common knowledge" in Nov/Dec 2012 that this is what testing/WDW would look like now.

 

[BayouMickey]

According to the Disboards home page, its a "discussion" site .

"discussion" does not accentuate venting or ranting..

 

[Jeslynb]

September of THIS year?

Yes.

I only received the pop-up message describing the new features THIS October, at which point I emailed CS.

It appeared center-screen when I logged back in to add some ADRs. And CS more or less acknowledged this in their reply to my email.

I have friends who are actually in the park today who have no idea what any of this is, lol, and they're onsite. They were like "why do we have bands? - what is this?" And they're doctors, so, you know, not stupid and they booked through the site themselves.

 

[Granny square]

"discussion" does not accentuate venting or ranting..

Lol, ranting? Your definition means more than other's?

Discussion is whatever, hahahaha. Don't like it? Don't read it. Or read it and fuss at people. That is your "right" too as long as it is within the guidelines.

 

[butterflygirl812]

While I'm not disputing that there may have been something about testing on their site at this time last year, it was NOT information about the test as the test is happening now. The testing happening now is much different than the testing that was happening last Nov/December, both in product being tested (i.e. no more tiers for FPs) and in the scope of the testing (i.e. all resorts now, as opposed to randomly selected guests on ME last year). Disney didn't announce the rolling out/testing of MyMagic Plus (including naming MM+) until January 2013...so again, while there may have been something on the site last year at this time, it was not about the testing as is *currently* is happening. So I really find it difficult to believe that anyone can say it was "common knowledge" in Nov/Dec 2012 that this is what testing/WDW would look like now.

I agree that the testing wasn't the same last year as it is now....the testing has definitely progressed, and with it, issues have developed. I wasn't implying that I knew what testing would be like at this point. Disney didn't even know that, which is why the information they provided is vague on the whole issue.

 

[BayouMickey]

Lol, ranting? Your definition means more than other's?

Discussion is whatever, hahahaha. Don't like it? Don't read it. Or read it and fuss at people. That is your "right" too as long as it is within the guidelines.

ranting is a one sided expression or tirade not deeming a response hence it's not a discussion..

 

[Granny square]

ranting is a one sided expression or tirade not deeming a response hence it's not a discussion..

Do you see ranting in this thread? Maybe my perceptions are off because I deal with pretty screwed up people but I do t see a rant.

If you don't deem something worthy of a response then don't respond. Simple.