Un-Disney-like Behavior

[pampam]

I think what Lindseydunn was trying to say was it's not her choice to be boarded first. That's Disney policy, and when you think of it , it makes sense. It takes time and room to strap down wc's and if the driver had to crawl over people to do this, it just wouldn't be practical. It will only take a few moments to do this, and in a few minutes the able bodied people will be sitting. Now, I have seen excited children run onto the bus, not understanding, and sit, but only have to move again because they are sitting where the wc's are strapped in. Mind you, I have a disabled daughter, and she teaches me patience every day, so perhaps my perception is different from people who don't have to deal with wheelchairs.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Your comment wasn't very Disney like.

Did you even read the whole exchange between me and the poster I was responding to??

 

[LindsayDunn228]

I think what Lindseydunn was trying to say was it's not her choice to be boarded first. That's Disney policy, and when you think of it , it makes sense. It takes time and room to strap down wc's and if the driver had to crawl over people to do this, it just wouldn't be practical. It will only take a few moments to do this, and in a few minutes the able bodied people will be sitting. Now, I have seen excited children run onto the bus, not understanding, and sit, but only have to move again because they are sitting where the wc's are strapped in. Mind you, I have a disabled daughter, and she teaches me patience every day, so perhaps my perception is different from people who don't have to deal with wheelchairs.

Thanks, Pampam

 

[LindsayDunn228]

i have to say i agree with this. this happened to us at CSR and it took us 2 hrs to get back to our resort due to 3 wheelchairs and a gaggle of friends who traveled together. I understand wanting to travel with your friends but really when only so many chairs can fit on a bus why not make it easier on all the other guests and be willing to split up your group. considering disney has many wheelchair using guests you'd think they'd have come up with a better solution, like maybe having a few special buses to call for such times.

This is where common courtesy comes into play. A courteous wheelchair/ECV user would only let their spouse (as in my case) or one family member join them when boarding first, instead of, as you say, a gaggle of friends. I would have absolutely no problem with my group getting split up. We are all going to the same place, there are PLENTY of places to meet up.

Sadly, not everyone who is disabled is courteous. Same for able-bodied.

 

[cornflkgrl]

Yup, Roman Catholic.


KC

Funny. I'm a RC christian too. Though someone sent me a private message to inform me that I may not be christian at all because I don't hate gay people. Who knew?!

 

[princessjv]

Now that is just wrong! That is pretty un Disney Like!

 

[ppony]

Not NEARLY as bad as other stuff and I know there were far worse that I saw but this one just irked me. I was standing in line for Playhouse Disney with my son, hubby and mother and this obnoxious woman drinking beer behind us spilled it all over me. She never even offered to go get some towels or anything! So I walked around the rest of the day smelling like a drunk and I don't drink! And HATE beer.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Funny. I'm a RC christian too. Though someone sent me a private message to inform me that I may not be christian at all because I don't hate gay people. Who knew?!

Are you serious? Unbelievable.

Speaking as a Christian myself, I don't hate anyone. As Albert said on Little House on the Prairie once, "When did you begin to dislike Nellie something fierce, but just shy of hatin'." Hee hee, I always thought that was cute.

 

[hogwartsdropout]

Are you serious? Unbelievable.

Speaking as a Christian myself, I don't hate anyone. As Albert said on Little House on the Prairie once, "When did you begin to dislike Nellie something fierce, but just shy of hatin'." Hee hee, I always thought that was cute.

Aw I loved Nellie I'm a RC too, and I certainly don't hate gay people.
But ahem, back to the discussion..

 

[islandbeachnut]

Since everyone's talking about the couple making out it reminded me, we saw a hetero couple, mildly drunk sneak onto the ship in Norway during evening magic hours. They then disappeared down into the ship. I bet it was more than a little making out. The girl was pretty skanky.

OMG

 

[pepperw23]

Thanks, Pampam

I don't mind waiting Lindsay.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Thanks Pepper

 

[S. C.]

 

[poohluvr]

This is slightly off topic but...my DS (10) once offered his seat to a woman on a very crowded Disney bus. Would you believe another boy - maybe 8 or 9- jumped into the seat so he could play his handheld video game? My son was a little mystified why he gave up his seat for a boy his age.

Awwwww.....your son is such a gentleman. I've been on busses where grown men won't even give up their seat for a child or a woman. Kudos to your son.

 

[fey_spirit]

You know every time I've heard someone complain about screaming, wailing, crying kids I hear the parents come back with "Well it's Disney - you have to expect the kids and just deal with it."

You know what? They have a point.

Guess what? Disney isn't just for kids, and the adults are just as welcome. Guess whta else? Cursing is a part of our society - like it or not. Don't like for your kids to hear this kind of thing? Keep them at home.

Why should I have to put up with someone's wailing screaming kid peircing my eardrums but then be expected to curb my language? I don't have a problem with my language (in fact I think that cursing is a perfectly natural expression - and to paraphrase the great Mark Twain often offers a release and satisfaction that at times even prayer can not provide.) the people I travel with don't have a problem with my language... so I'll tell you what, I'll deal with the fact that I'm in public with screaming, whineing kids, and keep my thoughts to myself if you'll accept that fact that you have your kids in public and sometimes they're gonna hear things you don't want them to and keep your thoughts to yourself. Then we'll all have peace in the Kingdom.

3) If you let the "f-bomb" slip in front of my kid in Disney World or anywhere else, you're going to be pretty embarrassed by the comment you get back.

 

[BamaTigger]

Perhaps I'm an oddity, but I would never expect anyone to give up their seat for me or my kids - and if it was offered, I doubt I would accept.

I don't mean any offense by this, I'm just trying to share my point of view. I don't expect strangers to accommodate me beyond extending common courtesy - particularly if I am in that situation willingly and as a result of possible poor planning on my part. Some would say that it's common courtesy to offer your seat - I do agree if the person standing is elderly or disabled. I would offer my seat in a minute if that were the case. But I don't think that just because you're traveling with children that all healthy people on the bus should offer their seat. I mean, it's WDW. Most people are traveling with children. If I saw a family with very small children pile onto an already filled bus, I would wonder why they didn't wait for the next one. I view it much like I view the lines for the attractions - one would never expect you to let a family with small kids pass you in line, even if the kids were grumpy from standing in line that long.

I totally agree. I would in a HEARTBEAT give up my seat to ederly or disabled. I know how hard it is to go anywhere with those two types of people. But just because you are a mom or dad with 2 kids, strollers, and diaper bags, toys, candy, etc. you are not entitled to demand a seat. I am not a mother, but if I was, I certainly wouldnt EXPECT people to give up a seat. I would use common sense and If i was that tired, or my kid was that fussy, I would wait for the next bus or plan better.

 

[kimmikayb]

You know every time I've heard someone complain about screaming, wailing, crying kids I hear the parents come back with "Well it's Disney - you have to expect the kids and just deal with it."

You know what? They have a point.

Guess what? Disney isn't just for kids, and the adults are just as welcome. Guess whta else? Cursing is a part of our society - like it or not. Don't like for your kids to hear this kind of thing? Keep them at home.

Why should I have to put up with someone's wailing screaming kid peircing my eardrums but then be expected to curb my language? I don't have a problem with my language (in fact I think that cursing is a perfectly natural expression - and to paraphrase the great Mark Twain often offers a release and satisfaction that at times even prayer can not provide.) the people I travel with don't have a problem with my language... so I'll tell you what, I'll deal with the fact that I'm in public with screaming, whineing kids, and keep my thoughts to myself if you'll accept that fact that you have your kids in public and sometimes they're gonna hear things you don't want them to and keep your thoughts to yourself. Then we'll all have peace in the Kingdom.

This is perhaps one of the most selfish posts I've ever read on DIS. Cursing is NOT an fully accepted part of this society.

Kids are kids and they will have melt downs and tantrums and it's up to the adults to deal with it appropriatly. YOU are an adult and can control your impluses INCLUDING swearing in front of my kids in a place for FAMILIES.

Just another example of someone with an entitlement issue. Can't control a foul mouth in front of kids because gosh darn it, I'm entitled to use words not appropriate for children. And isn't it JUST adorable to hear a three year old repeat the "f bomb" he hears from someone just like you to the next person he/she sees. Get real. Kids are still maturing and will understandably have melt downs. You are "suppose" to be mature enough to curb your foul mouth for a few hours.

I'll tell you what...I'll respect you and take my kids out of the park if they are having issues and you save your dirty mouth for the bar.

 

[LaraK]

You know every time I've heard someone complain about screaming, wailing, crying kids I hear the parents come back with "Well it's Disney - you have to expect the kids and just deal with it."

You know what? They have a point.

Guess what? Disney isn't just for kids, and the adults are just as welcome. Guess whta else? Cursing is a part of our society - like it or not. Don't like for your kids to hear this kind of thing? Keep them at home.

Why should I have to put up with someone's wailing screaming kid peircing my eardrums but then be expected to curb my language? I don't have a problem with my language (in fact I think that cursing is a perfectly natural expression - and to paraphrase the great Mark Twain often offers a release and satisfaction that at times even prayer can not provide.) the people I travel with don't have a problem with my language... so I'll tell you what, I'll deal with the fact that I'm in public with screaming, whineing kids, and keep my thoughts to myself if you'll accept that fact that you have your kids in public and sometimes they're gonna hear things you don't want them to and keep your thoughts to yourself. Then we'll all have peace in the Kingdom.

Swearing is not acceptable expression, it is a loss of control and a symbol of poor self-control. I am prone to swear every so often, sometimes even when my kids are melting down. It doesn't make it a good thing to do. If you really believe what you just posted, I feel very sorry for you.

In terms of my kids crying...get over it. You did it too. I will remove my children from the situation and try to get the crying to stop. I will not subject you in an adult setting to their behavior because I do not take them into adults only settings. You are going to one of the most child oriented settings in the world. I think you should expect what you get.

 

[mikkiwikki]

I totally agree. I would in a HEARTBEAT give up my seat to ederly or disabled. I know how hard it is to go anywhere with those two types of people. But just because you are a mom or dad with 2 kids, strollers, and diaper bags, toys, candy, etc. you are not entitled to demand a seat. I am not a mother, but if I was, I certainly wouldnt EXPECT people to give up a seat. I would use common sense and If i was that tired, or my kid was that fussy, I would wait for the next bus or plan better.

Ever heard the American Indian saying -
"Before I judge a man, let me first walk a mile in his moccasins."

Bama - if you dont have kids - you dont know - so pretending to know is insulting to others. One can only hope after you have a two kids, you will be enlightened.

As to the gentleman who thinks swearing is ok. Its a definite statement of the quality of our society. Stating: I'm an adult, and in this society...its not my responsibility to provide an example to children about how to behave. I dont care about those children ....they are not a part of my country nation ....are not a part of my culture.....lets just promote the complete disintegration of family values....Your very fortunate to have not grown up in such a society....I shudder when I think the world my children will grow up in.....How very very sad.

 

[fey_spirit]

It really depends upon which part of society you belong to how acceptable it is. I don't happen to be an ultra conservative christan - in my circles it is perfectly acceptable. It's not a loss of control, I choose my words very carefully - I like those words. They convey a certain emphasis and feeling that sometimes can not be expressed in any more succeint way.

If you really belive your way of thinking and being should be everyone's way of thinking and being, and worse is the only legitimit way of being - I really feel sorry for you.

Short of a bar there is no such thing as an adults only enviorment, but guess what Disney isn't a kids only enviorment either - not matter how badly some parents my wish to make it so. Get over it.

Disney World is also the honeymoon capital of the world which means tons of adults without kids - ::Gasp:: I know! Kidless adults in Disney - wow, who would figure Walt's dream of a place where folks of all ages can go play and they don't have to have kids to do it!

And no I didn't do it, because it wasn't tolerated. My parents didn't think it was a good idea to force me onto rides while I cried and screamed for my own good in facing my fears - they had more consideration for the other adults around them. If I acted like that I was very quickly taken to the bathroom and my behavior was corrected because wow - my folks thought adults had some rights too. Yeah - even in Disney World.

And I wish people like you would get it through your head that it isn't child oriented it's people oriented. Yes, there are some things that only people under a certain age can do - guess what, there are things that only people over a certain age can do (Yes, even in the Magic Kingdom)

Swearing is not acceptable expression, it is a loss of control and a symbol of poor self-control. I am prone to swear every so often, sometimes even when my kids are melting down. It doesn't make it a good thing to do. If you really believe what you just posted, I feel very sorry for you.

In terms of my kids crying...get over it. You did it too. I will remove my children from the situation and try to get the crying to stop. I will not subject you in an adult setting to their behavior because I do not take them into adults only settings. You are going to one of the most child oriented settings in the world. I think you should expect what you get.