Un-Disney-like Behavior

[LindsayDunn228]

I can agree with waiting a few extra minutes to load a person with a wheelchair or ECV, and I can agree that seating 1 or 2 extra people attending that person is very reasonable.

I CANNOT agree that a group of 19 people, all adults, only 2 of which were in ECV's, can walk up right as the bus arrives and bump all of those people who have been patiently waiting in line. 2 ECV's take up 2-3 seats each, plus the riders, plus 19 extra family members adds up to 25-27 seats, and that comes darn close to more than halfway filling up a bus. That is unreasonable.

Just because a person needs assistance does NOT mean that their entire entourage needs it as well.

I agree, I never even hinted I thought that was acceptable. When I board the bus it is only my husband and I (who, by the way, has given up his seat for people and stood).

 

[Talking Hands]

"Okay, I totally don't get why people are annoyed with the group of people getting seated beforehand with the wheel chair guest."

I think I know what the poster was complaining about. It's not the avg. size family with one person in a wheelchair. It's the large groups who come up at the last minute with one person in a chair or scooter. The driver loads the person with the chair first, then their entire group, several times we had this happen with groups of 12+ people, boards thru the rear door, bypassing the entire line, some of them literally pushing aside the people in line. Now the people who have been waiting for the bus either have to stand or wait for the next one. Now I'm not saying that every family with a person in a wheelchair or scooter does this, this is just what we experienced several different times last fall.

Don't be too sure thay are all with the guest in the wheelchair. I have had several times when people who were not in my party tried to got on the bus by the exit saying I'm with them. Nope. Not with me.

 

[LindsayDunn228]

Talking Hands, we have had that happen too and the bus driver made them get off!!

 

[Talking Hands]

Disney's transprtation policy seems to be that if the person in the WC or ECV is capable of self transfer they have that person move to a regular seat while tieing down the WC or ECV. They only allow someone to remain in the WC or ECV if they are unable to self transfer.
This is from observation only. I don't know this for a fact.

If it is an ECV, they do encourage the person to transfer to a regular seat. If they are in a Wheelchair, power or manual, the driver's usually assume they will remain in the wheelchair, but ultimately it is the choice of the wheelchair user. I will normally remain in my wheelchair especially if it is very crowded. I have moved though when the driver didn't tie down the wheelchair and told me to just hold on to the raised seat.

 

[Talking Hands]

Talking Hands, we have had that happen too and the bus driver made them get off!!

Good for that driver. I have had some that do and some that don't. When I travel by myself sometimes, since I am hard of hearing, I don't know what they have said, but the driver will turn and ask me face to face if they are with me, then they tell them to get off.
If I am with my husband he will just comment no they aren't.
Now if I am with someone I will just say, he's with me.

 

[Uuaww]

All Star music 3 amigos pool....this guy had on his white tshirt in the pool toddler in one arm, glass beer bottle in the other. When the lifeguard told him he could not have glass in the pool he put up a VERY big fuss. My biggest Are- we- in- Disney- or- Vegas? moment.

This one REALLY REALLY pissed me off. I am a lifeguard, at an olympic size pool. One night some idiots decided to throw bottle and bottles of broken glass into the pool. Me and my friend were the only two SCUBA certified people not on vacation so we had to bite the bullet and clean it up, FOR 14, YES FOURTEEN! HOURS!!! It was basically, did you get it all? yes, are you 100% sure, b/c if your not then you have to do it again. I did get paid $20 an hour to do it, 6 am to 10 pm with free lunch during my breaks, but the day blew. there was a swim meet the next day, and it was just brutal.

 

[Eeyore2003]

My SIL and brother saw a father slug his kid so hard he fell to the ground and was screaming at him. Lucky I didn't see it. I'd have been tempted to smack the father!!!

 

[arthurndove]

We had one bus driver(while we are on the subject of that) that when we came up on the bus told us the bus was full. then let on 6 able bodied people then 3 more... then he sat there when the other bus showed up making me wait another 5 min. i could have understood if he said he had a full bus and took off but since i am Not able to move far and i do have a manual wheelchair i figured he would have at least either made the space for my chair or taken off and let the other bus get in.....
I felt guilty about being allowed on first but remember with wheelchairs being allowed on first they get off last and some of us do help make space in the isles by holding onto strollers i will get off of my :soapbox:
OverAll our trip went wonderful

 

[frazzled one]

I think the safest (i.e., least likely to offend touchy folks) way to offer a seat is to half-rise and ask, "Would you care to sit down?" As has been reported on this thread, some seniors or parents with sleeping children might prefer standing for whatever reason, or feel self-conscious about accepting the offer from someone else who is also probably tired at the end of a long Disney day. It's kind of like being called "ma'am" when you aren't quite ready for it yet - something of a shock to realize that nice young person is offering you his or her seat because you're, well ... older. (Or else so bedraggled or out-of-shape-looking that they don't think you should be standing up )

The most un-Disney thing that ever happened to us came in the first minute of our first family Disney trip. The CM/security guard at the entrance plaza was having an emotional meltdown as we drove in. She was crying while screaming orders at drivers about which lane to be in. My husband shot me a look that said, "What have you gotten us into?" Fortunately, everything since that moment has been an improvement!

 

[misskrystal]

My un-Disney experience doesn't have anything to do with Disney, but the people I went with. I had flu, but because they didn't want to waste time driving me to the doctor, I had to stay in the room and suffer. I lost about a stone in less than a week, which is quite a lot for someone who only weighed about 9 stone!

I discovered on a later trip that the health centre was directly across the street from our hotel. It would have taken them 5 minutes for them to help me!

It's still Disney, though, so I managed to enjoy the second week when I'd recovered slightly.

 

[TxDisneyFan]

Our family was at WDW Dec 18-23. We were at MK one day and I finally saw PUSH the talking trash can. It was sooo cute to see kids interacting with it. As my kids were mesmerized by PUSH, I took the time to find his operator in the crowd. BINGO! There he was. I watched the CM as the kids talked to him and he would make them laugh. Two older kids came up and kind of pushed some of the younger kids to the side. Well, PUSH didn't like that and fussed at the kids....in a nice way. Then, the older kids started rocking PUSH back and forth and climbed on him. The CM was a little agitated but he couldn't shout out because he'd be found out.

Whoa.....where are these kids' parents? And PUSH wanted to know too! He kept saying, "Where are your parents?" "Hey, I'm not climbing on you!" The kids wouldn't stop. Finally, PUSH stopped talking and interacting and just sat there. The kids got bored and walked away. We did see PUSH later that same day and he was back to normal and making the kids laugh.

 

[Kimberly815]

Two older kids came up and kind of pushed some of the younger kids to the side. Well, PUSH didn't like that and fussed at the kids....in a nice way. Then, the older kids started rocking PUSH back and forth and climbed on him. The CM was a little agitated but he couldn't shout out because he'd be found out.

That's not cool. I always wonder, when I see behavior like this, where they learned to behave like that, and why they think it is okay. Sadly, I am too much of a chicken to ever make a peep about it.

 

[Joanna71985]

Speaking of PUSH, when I was there I was able to find his operator really easily. Of course, some teenaged boys also did and were visibly pointing at him. I was like "Hello? What's your problem. If you see him keep it to yourself".

 

[dzneprincess]

I typically write safe posts and stay out of debates, but this comment really bothered me. I do not condone cursing, but I admit that yes, curses slip out on rare occasions. I'm sorry but I can't understand the point if I was at WDW or anywhere and a curse slipped out and someone tried to "embarass" me by throwing some comments my way for cursing. On the other hand, I have witnessed groups of unsupervised teenagers swearing away and yes, I have said something to them. But as a 30-something adult, I'd have a real problem if I'd accidentally cursed and another adult tried to reprimand me.

Instead of being confrontational and causing a scene, why not take the higher road? Explain to your children that some people have potty mouths and they shouldn't use those words. Wouldn't that be better than verbally attacking someone?

Great post Danielle!

 

[Tinkerbellz]

I see so much crap from people with no manners everytime we go but last September at MK a old lady in a mobile wheelchair was going as fast as she could running over people without saying sorry. People she would run into would just turn and look at her like "what is wrong with you?" When we got up beside her, she had just run into someone else and I told her she needed to slow down. She said this is the slowest this thing will go-I told her she needed to park it then because she can't drive. Not being disrespectful to old people but she needed some kind of wake-up call.

Seeing this post reminded me of our first trip to WDW. Summer 2001, my DD14 had to make a quick stop in Fantasyland at MK because a little child had jutted in front of her and she didn't want to hurt the little girl, along comes a lady in a scooter and runs right into my DD, then begins yelling at my DD for being in her way. DD was not hurt and I politely took DD by the hand and excused ourselves and went about our business. It was quite an interesting adventure and gave us our famous family quote.

" A bad day at Disney, is better than a good day anywhere!"

 

[Meezers]

In one word...smoking....

Please don't smoke in non-smoking rooms

While walking around the park

Waiting for fireworks or parades

Yep....I can say "don't smoke here" in about 12 languages!

 

[Rudegrle]

In one word...smoking....

Please don't smoke in non-smoking rooms

While walking around the park

Waiting for fireworks or parades

Yep....I can say "don't smoke here" in about 12 languages!

I more than agree I already posted regarding how rude the smoking issue is and the bad things that can happen when you do not smoke in the designated areas and I am glad that other people notice it too.

A law was just passed in WA state banning all smoking in indoor public areas and w/ in 25 feet of the entrances...it's really nice!

 

[Meezers]

I more than agree I already posted regarding how rude the smoking issue is and the bad things that can happen when you do not smoke in the designated areas and I am glad that other people notice it too.

A law was just passed in WA state banning all smoking in indoor public areas and w/ in 25 feet of the entrances...it's really nice!

Yep...same law in Georgia...which is why I can say not to smoke in several languages...I have no problem informing people of the law!

 

[Piecey]

They just passed a law similar to that, but If I remember correctly it's just a county law and not a state-wide one.

There was a lot of controversy but you can't smoke in public places or within 30 or so feet of an entrance/exit.

Bars are free from the rule for now but in 2008, you won't be able to smoke in them either. Unless they make a special "smoking" room with their own ventilation system. Crazy stuff, has a lot of people upset.. but I for one, am glad.

 

[thptrek]

Regarding the whole seat thing on busses: why not just remove all the seats to allow for more space.