UGH! Can't people dress up anymore??

[JR6ooo4]

I will take sloppy dress over rude and annoying any time.

I expect the restaraunts are not enforcing the dress codes as much. At leas these days, money is money. they need all they can get.

MIkeeee

 

[bicker]

I agree with the OP, I just can't believe that people don't have enough class to dress up just a little when going out to a nicer restuarant. Sorry but that is the way I feel, it shows a lack of respect to me.

Yet, since their attire is within the restaurant's standards, isn't it your regard for "them", asserting that they "don't have enough class", for example, that actually shows a lack of respect? These things cut both ways, and so I feel it is better to acknowledge that, and not make value judgments on others based on their not complying with our own personal standards. We can make value judgments on others based solely on the standards that they explicitly subscribe to, or based on objective standards (i.e., the law, for public property, or rules set forth by the owner, for private property).

ONe of society's many downfalls, people do whatever THEY are ok with, not what is socially acceptable.

The problem with that logic is that what a lot of people are complaining about in this thread is socially acceptable. It just isn't what certain people would prefer to be socially acceptable. There's a difference.

 

[bicker]

Yes but you can't refuse people anymore for fear of getting sued.

Which, if true, is a decision society has made.

Establishments don't have power anymore to refuse service.

They actually do. You're exaggerating.

Peole have too many rights, (please note sarcasm).

I do note the sarcasm, but you need to note that a lot of this is a reflection of how too many people have shown too much disrespect for the rights of others to live their lives in accordance with their own beliefs and values. If people treated everyone else with uniform respect and dignity for the life each person is leading, based on that person's beliefs and values rather than their own, then there wouldn't be any reason to establish "rights".

Legislators aren't morons, no matter what whiners wish to contend: They pass laws based on sound foundations, specific instances where people did things that significantly violated society's consensus morality. The problem with laws (and rules), is that they cannot always be crafted finely enough to draw a clear delineation. Sometimes laws fail to cover situations that should be cover, or cover situations that shouldn't be covered. That is the price of the imprecise nature of the human experience. (In other words, that's life.) It is better to have laws (and rules), even though sometimes they miss the mark by a marginal amount than to have no laws (or rules) and have rampant, gross transgression.

It is all about me, that is what is wrong with the world now. ME ME ME and nobody else matters and rules don't apply to me but just everyone else. Cause I am ME ME ME (sarcasm again)

Well, in this case, it is hard to know what you mean by labeling that as sarcasm. The reality is that the OP can readily be classified as a "ME ME ME" perspective, since it puts the OP's personal preferences regarding dining experiences over that of others.

 

[Galahad]

Last night we went out to dinner at Fogo de Chao, the Brazilian steakhouse that runs $50/person before drinks, tax, and tip.

OT, but did you like it? We have one that opened a few months ago here in Indy. We haven't gone yet. It's quite popular with the IRL drivers we hear (many of whom are Brazilian) but haven't talked to many folks that have been there yet.

 

[Evil Genius]

Ack - I do not even OWN a sweatshirt!!!

And if I did I would NEVER go out in public in it - they are shapeless, unisex, unflattering, yuck. I have more respect for myself than that.

Sneakers are for the gym/exercise class. And to pair them with jeans is a fashion crime. If I see that look it is usually a tourist.

I like to look good, I like to dress nice - we eat out 2 to 3 nights a week and always dress to the restaurant.

Do you think this dressing down has anything to do with how fat people are nowadays? They have nothing else to wear?[/QUOTE]


No us fat people have plenty of nice clothes to wear. Really we do.

It's laziness and a lack of self esteem whether your fat or thin.

 

[nikkistevej]

OT, but did you like it? We have one that opened a few months ago here in Indy. We haven't gone yet. It's quite popular with the IRL drivers we hear (many of whom are Brazilian) but haven't talked to many folks that have been there yet.

I was the other one that went to Fogo de Chao- in jeans. LOLOLOLOL Anyway we enjoyed the food- the meats and salad bar were awesome. I didn't even know there were that many cuts of beef. There were even sides that came- I couldn't even eat those though- I was too full.

 

[MELSMICE]

Originally Posted by mhsjax
I agree with the OP, I just can't believe that people don't have enough class to dress up just a little when going out to a nicer restuarant. Sorry but that is the way I feel, it shows a lack of respect to me.

I completely agree with the OP also.

If you are going to a nice restaurant you should look presentable. A pair of Dockers & nice shirt/sweater is a decent choice. There's no reason to look like a slob.

I don't think it's inappropriate to wear jeans to a casual restaurant, however, sweats, pj pants, etc., are not appropriate.

I see some people out in public wearing clothes that I wouldn't clean my house in. I often wonder if they've looked in the mirror before they walked out the door.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but if I know I'll be home all day & not going anywhere it's jeans & sweatshirt for me. If I'm going out for any reason, I will choose to wear a sweater or nice shirt. If I am meeting someone for lunch or know I will be going to dinner later in the day, I throw on a pair of Dockers & a nice sweater/shirt. I just feel better about myself when I am dressed nice. Sundays are lazy days & that's the day for my sweats/workout pants, but I don't leave the house!!!

 

[CJMickeyMouse]

Wow.... since I regularly wear jeans (with sneakers!!!! HORRORS!!!) and sweatshirts..... according to some posters I am fat (which I am not), have low self esteem (which I don't), am lazy, (almost forgot that one) and basically should worry constantly about what others think of me before I walk out the door.

I think people are being a tad judgemental, here..... IMO of course.

Personally, if people are polite and considerate of others..... I couldn't care less what they have on. When I go out to eat, I am paying attention to those I am dining with, and the food! Now the exception would be the loud obnoxious kids, or the rude, inconsiderate adults. That would get my attention. In fact, that might just be what got my attention on this thread!

 

[fairykin]

Wow...some mean spirited posts..

Just to reply to a few things.

1. I do not care what anyone wears to church, and more importantly, God welcomes ALL .. do You think God would not want someone there in fellowship simply because they didn't have the "right" clothes on?

2. As a short fat sweet girl, i dress lovely and think that i'd much rather be a fat girl than a mean girl, who labels people by their appearance rather than their character.

3. I wish I had not clicked on this post, I do not think it is in the spirit of Dis.

 

[Ohiodislover]

Do you think this dressing down has anything to do with how fat people are nowadays? They have nothing else to wear?

No us fat people have plenty of nice clothes to wear. Really we do.

It's laziness and a lack of self esteem whether your fat or thin.

Another "fat"girl chiming in. Evil Genius--I agree Chicagodisneyfan--Get over yourself! What a rude thing to say

I completely agree with the OP also.

The OP wasn't in a restaurant that has even a "business casual" dress code. They don't discourage jeans, yet alone refuse a customer who wears them. I've been there numerous times, and people with jeans are always there. We've been to the one in Balto, on a game day, and people were coming in from the game, in baseball attire. The OP assumed that it was a fancy restaurant because of the cost. If she wanted to go to a restaurant where everyone was dressier, than she should have done her homework before going. A phone call to FogoDeChao would have let her know that people would be dressed casually, and she could have chose not to go, if it bothers her that badly.

 

[bicker]

Good point, Ohiodislover. The best thing folks who want a more formal dining experience can do for themselves is to call the restaurant in advance and ask if they can dine in casual attire. If the answer is "yes" then find another place to dine.

 

[AC7179]

Ack - I do not even OWN a sweatshirt!!!

And if I did I would NEVER go out in public in it - they are shapeless, unisex, unflattering, yuck. I have more respect for myself than that.

Sneakers are for the gym/exercise class. And to pair them with jeans is a fashion crime. If I see that look it is usually a tourist.

I like to look good, I like to dress nice - we eat out 2 to 3 nights a week and always dress to the restaurant.

Do you think this dressing down has anything to do with how fat people are nowadays? They have nothing else to wear?

Awww, man. My favorite outfit consists of a tshirt with my college sweatshirt over it, jeans, and sneakers and or Crocs. I guess I look like a toursit. I love it though, it's so comfy. I don't wear it to church, or funerals, or to dinner on my cruise ship, etc., but I do enjoy that ensemble.

 

[daisax]

We recently built a new high school football stadium. During the final year at the old stadium we saw pics of it taken in the 40's and 50's. Kids were SHOCKED to see ladies in dresses and hats and boys and men wearing jackets and ties to a football game!

I love seeing those pictures too (and I show dogs and ADORE the photos of the ladies in heels and GLOVES handling dogs!)

However, that's a pretty brief blip in world/American history. Most of the time through most of history people only had one outfit, maybe in very comfortable circumstances a second one for "best." And "best" included everything from Sunday service to their own wedding/funeral. And may very well have been made over from somebody else's outfit.

People complain of how others dress on planes, too... and yet do any of us REALLY want to go back to heels and panty hose for a 12 hour day of traveling? When the most "service" we're getting is the opportunity to pay $8 for a sandwich? When air travel became the equivalent of bus travel, it makes sense that people's expectations lowered.

Going out to eat or to concerts or plays used to be an event - now people consider those leisure activities and their clothing reflects that.

 

[kimsuenew]

Ack - I do not even OWN a sweatshirt!!!

And if I did I would NEVER go out in public in it - they are shapeless, unisex, unflattering, yuck. I have more respect for myself than that.

Sneakers are for the gym/exercise class. And to pair them with jeans is a fashion crime. If I see that look it is usually a tourist.

I like to look good, I like to dress nice - we eat out 2 to 3 nights a week and always dress to the restaurant.

Do you think this dressing down has anything to do with how fat people are nowadays? They have nothing else to wear?

Apparently Ohio is a lot different than Illinois... this look is the norm here (jeans and tennis shoes)!

You are aware that there are very high end stores, labels, and clothes for heavier set people? Just because someone is "fat" (your word choice, not mine) does not mean they are unkempt or dressed poorly. I know many plus sized people that dress trendy and neatly... very clean and very put together. I also have seen many thin people that are a mess (clothing and hygiene wise). The way a person dresses has nothing to due with size, but rather with their sense of style (or lack thereof) or economic situation.

 

[bicker]

People complain of how others dress on planes, too... and yet do any of us REALLY want to go back to heels and panty hose for a 12 hour day of traveling?

Isn't that pretty dangerous?

 

[MELSMICE]

I personally believe the American public have become lazy & don't care how they appear in public.

I am going shopping today with my 3 DD's. I am wearing jeans & a turtleneck sweater. I will be wearing my Ugg boots to keep my feet warm. I believe I look presentable - not over dressed or under dressed (IMO).

By my own choice, I would not go shopping in jeans, sneakers & a sweatshirt/hoodie. I think it looks sloppy & I don't want to look sloppy.

Again, this is my opinion. When I'm home I wear jeans/hoodies/sweatshirts, but I prefer not to wear them in public.

 

[freckles and boo]

Isn't that pretty dangerous?

Yes. I think they recommend clothing that won't melt to your skin for air travel these days.

 

[yeartolate]

Yes but you can't refuse people anymore for fear of getting sued. Establishments don't have power anymore to refuse service. Peole have too many rights, (please note sarcasm). It is all about me, that is what is wrong with the world now. ME ME ME and nobody else matters and rules don't apply to me but just everyone else. Cause I am ME ME ME (sarcasm again)

I wholeheartedly believe this is NOT the issue.

If dining establishments demanded strict dress codes, they might gain a few customers, but they certainly would lose many. I think pure and simple it is a business decison. I really cannot fathom why it would be a rights issue.

I agree with the poster that spoke to behavior instead. I will take a polite diner in jeans anyday over a rude obnoxious in fancy dress.

I see no reason why a person's dress has to make my dining experience bad. It simply does not make sense to me. If I noticed others attire enough to mae my dining experience poor, I probably need more interesting friends.

 

[daisax]

Yeah, you definitely shouldn't wear synthetics on planes. Cotton pajama pants are best! (Just kidding)

 

[DizBelle]

Wow.... since I regularly wear jeans (with sneakers!!!! HORRORS!!!) and sweatshirts..... according to some posters I am fat (which I am not), have low self esteem (which I don't), am lazy, (almost forgot that one) and basically should worry constantly about what others think of me before I walk out the door.

I think people are being a tad judgemental, here..... IMO of course.

Personally, if people are polite and considerate of others..... I couldn't care less what they have on. When I go out to eat, I am paying attention to those I am dining with, and the food! Now the exception would be the loud obnoxious kids, or the rude, inconsiderate adults. That would get my attention. In fact, that might just be what got my attention on this thread!

I believe that how you present yourself to other people is a component of being courteous.

Personally, I don't want to see anyone's crusty toes, toe jam, or deoderant balls in armpit hair when I'm trying to have a nice dinner.