TSA 'tweaks' @@

[kaytieeldr]

According to an article in today's Boston Globe, the rules have been tweaked a little:
. . . First, the size has been upped to 3.4 ounces, aka 100 milliliters (which some of us already knew), and
. . . Again per this article, you now CAN take larger-sized products provided they (a) contain no more than three ounces and (b) fit comfortably in the requisite one-quart zipper bag. How the TSA people will be able to tell there's only two ounces of toothpaste left in my six ounce tube, I haven't got the foggiest idea...

If you have today's Globe, the article is on page three of the business section; or I'm sure it's available online. Either way, I'd bring a copy to the airport with me...

Based on the post below and for everyone's convenience: http://www.boston.com/business/globe/articles/2006/11/17/tsa_tweaking_carry_on_rules/

 

[UrsulasShadow]

It's not on the TSA site yet though....durn government slackers!

 

[goofy4tink]

Just in the nick of time...I have a Fructis Garnier travel size bottle but it's 3.4 oz so I didn't want to chance it....now I can. It's the small things that make ya happy I guess!!! I hate lugging that big full size shampoo bottle. Maybe I just might get by with carryon from time to time now!!

 

[PURTYPAT1]

I flew out of MIA airport on Monday. The TSA agent kept mading the annoucment that you can now carry 3.4 FL oz in your ziplock bag.

I aske why, & she said becasue the Europeans do not make 3 oz. only 3.4 fl oz.

 

[CarolA]

Just in the nick of time...I have a Fructis Garnier travel size bottle but it's 3.4 oz so I didn't want to chance it....now I can. It's the small things that make ya happy I guess!!! I hate lugging that big full size shampoo bottle. Maybe I just might get by with carryon from time to time now!!

I would wait until I see it on the website and then PRINT the website. So far I think the website still says 3 oz.

The TSA seems to do a LOUSY job of training thier agents when they change the rules and that combined with the "make up your own rules" group makes every change a real problem.

(After "extensive research" the TSA decided 3 oz was safe, now it's 3.4 oz that's safe. Makes you wonder about the "extensive research" I guess Harry Potter's baggies are still protecting us!)

 

[kaytieeldr]

So, you're commenting on that but have nothing to say about the partially-full tweak? Interesting... I expected you to be more vocal than that!

 

[bicker]

Don't poke the members.

 

[goofy4tink]

I would wait until I see it on the website and then PRINT the website. So far I think the website still says 3 oz.

The TSA seems to do a LOUSY job of training thier agents when they change the rules and that combined with the "make up your own rules" group makes every change a real problem.

(After "extensive research" the TSA decided 3 oz was safe, now it's 3.4 oz that's safe. Makes you wonder about the "extensive research" I guess Harry Potter's baggies are still protecting us!)

I just booked my dh a flight to Neward, from Boston on Continental. They actually have the 3.4 size listed! I was really surprised. It would seem that sometimes the metric system is a good thing for us Yanks.

 

[CarolA]

So, you're commenting on that but have nothing to say about the partially-full tweak? Interesting... I expected you to be more vocal than that!

I figure I don't have to comment on partially full until we see how the TSA ENFORCES it.

I have NO problem obeying TSA rules even those I think do NOTHING to enhance my security. I have A LOT of problems with TSA agents who are inconsistent, rude or otherwise take advantage of thier power.

I realize that the agents don't make the rules and complaints about the overall TSA should not be directed to them. However, I expect them to professionally enforce the rules just as I would any law enforcement authority.

Would you be happy if the speed limit was posted at 35 MPH, but the police officer decided he could change it to 25 MPH and give you a ticket for 35? Why should the TSA be different from your local cops on that?

Also, remember that no matter WHAT your airline website says they don't make or enforce the rules. I just checked TSA.gov and it still says 3 oz

 

[goofy4tink]

I figure I don't have to comment on partially full until we see how the TSA ENFORCES it.

I have NO problem obeying TSA rules even those I think do NOTHING to enhance my security. I have A LOT of problems with TSA agents who are inconsistent, rude or otherwise take advantage of thier power.

I realize that the agents don't make the rules and complaints about the overall TSA should not be directed to them. However, I expect them to professionally enforce the rules just as I would any law enforcement authority.

Would you be happy if the speed limit was posted at 35 MPH, but the police officer decided he could change it to 25 MPH and give you a ticket for 35? Why should the TSA be different from your local cops on that?

Also, remember that no matter WHAT your airline website says they don't make or enforce the rules. I just checked TSA.gov and it still says 3 oz

I just checked the TSA site also.....and people wonder why everyone is so confused!!! A newspaper puts out an article about allowing 3.4 oz, some airline sites state the same thing, yet the TSA, who presumably has put out the story, stills lists amount as 3 oz!!! Man, I give up.

 

[RedSox1974]

Flying from Manchester, NH to MCO in 11 days. Sorry if these have been answered, I could not locate the answers via search.

1. Can the kids bring their handheld games (gameboy, etc.) with carry-on?

2. Can I still pack glow-sticks in my checked baggage?

Thanks in advance.

 

[bicker]

1. The carrying on of electronics is not restricted. (Use in flight is, however, during taxi, take-off and landing.)

2. Checked luggage -- yes.

 

[RedSox1974]

Thank you Bicker. Most appreciated.

The kids will be happy to know.

 

[PURTYPAT1]

Flying from Manchester, NH to MCO in 11 days. Sorry if these have been answered, I could not locate the answers via search.

1. Can the kids bring their handheld games (gameboy, etc.) with carry-on?

2. Can I still pack glow-sticks in my checked baggage?

Thanks in advance.

Just came back on Monday, my DD had both gameboy, & a DVD player (a blessing at the airport) no problems at all.

We had glow sticks in our suitcases, no a word said.

Have fun.

Patricia

 

[RachelEllen]

I have NO problem obeying TSA rules even those I think do NOTHING to enhance my security. I have A LOT of problems with TSA agents who are inconsistent, rude or otherwise take advantage of thier power.

I realize that the agents don't make the rules and complaints about the overall TSA should not be directed to them. However, I expect them to professionally enforce the rules just as I would any law enforcement authority.

I have to say, that although I agree with the above 110%, I've developed some compassion for those TSA workers at the airport. Although most of the travelling public seems to have gotton the message about the rules, many have not. Whether this is due to poor communication of the rules or poor compliance, neither of these is the TSA workers fault. However, they have to deal with the results.

I had to fly home emergently last week. I purchased a one way ticket the day before travel and didn't check a bag. So, as I stood at security with my SSSS designation, I had about 10 minutes to watch the X-ray machines while waiting for 'female assist' It was a constant, and I do not exagerate, constant stream (no pun intended) of oversized, unbagged liquids. The culmination of which was a man attempting to carry two 12 packs of mountain dew cans onto the airplane.

 

[CarolA]

I have to say, that although I agree with the above 110%, I've developed some compassion for those TSA workers at the airport. Although most of the travelling public seems to have gotton the message about the rules, many have not. Whether this is due to poor communication of the rules or poor compliance, neither of these is the TSA workers fault. However, they have to deal with the results.

I had to fly home emergently last week. I purchased a one way ticket the day before travel and didn't check a bag. So, as I stood at security with my SSSS designation, I had about 10 minutes to watch the X-ray machines while waiting for 'female assist' It was a constant, and I do not exagerate, constant stream (no pun intended) of oversized, unbagged liquids. The culmination of which was a man attempting to carry two 12 packs of mountain dew cans onto the airplane.

If my problems with the TSA were only post "liquid ban" MAYBE I would have compassion. However, the threat to stirp search me for having a corkscrew (allowed per TSA website) was a year ago. The ABUSE of a senior citizen for being wheelchair bound... a year ago.

They burned to much good will early on with frequent flyers to expect much now.

 

[CPT Tripss]

Go CarolA
It's the inconsistancy and insensitivity that get me. I think of all the times I have seen older adults and people with disabilities (who according to TSA can keep their shoes on) trying to deshoe and reshoe with no chairs.

 

[salmoneous]

I would wait until I see it on the website and then PRINT the website.

And even after it appears in print on the TSA website, there will be a delay until the agents manning the check point are educated about the rule change.

Still - glad to see the TSA is still winning to change rules.

 

[rparmfamily]

If my problems with the TSA were only post "liquid ban" MAYBE I would have compassion. However, the threat to stirp search me for having a corkscrew (allowed per TSA website) was a year ago. The ABUSE of a senior citizen for being wheelchair bound... a year ago.

They burned to much good will early on with frequent flyers to expect much now.

Absolutely Carol I could not agree with you more. There have been to many problems with the TSA lately especially with the rights of passengers. They need to go. I like them detaining a guy for writing on his zip loc baggy or confiscating a person's cancer medicine.

 

[bicker]

Absolutely Carol I could not agree with you more. There have been to many problems with the TSA lately especially with the rights of passengers. They need to go. I like them detaining a guy for writing on his zip loc baggy or confiscating a person's cancer medicine.

Your option in that regard is to refuse to fly. At this point, air travel is a regulated industry, and TSA control over security is in the interest of the nation's national defense.