TreeHouse Villas

[Jeremy&Susan]

We all better remember, like a few posters on this board insist, the THV are not "OFFICALLY" part of SSR and there is "NO GAURANTEE" that they ever will be......

THV being part fo SSR may just be like UFO sightings and the like.

Those were the people defending Disney booking new buyers into THV for the past month even though SSR owners aren't allowed to book yet. Obviously those people dont understand how verbal contracts and press releases do actually constitute a legally binding agreements which are enforceable in court.

I personally have faith that THV are actually part of SSR, mainly because Dinsey arlready said they were.
Let's all keep the faith.

 

[JimMIA]

Thanks for the link to Tim's floorplan posting. That gave me my first real sense of what the THV's would be like.

I don't think I'd want to try 9 in one, but it sure would be perfect for us and DD's best friend and her parents. One adult couple in each "master" and the two girls in the bunks -- that would be perfect.

One thing I don't see is a washer dryer. Did I just miss that?

 

[tomandrobin]

We all better remember, like a few posters on this board insist, the THV are not "OFFICALLY" part of SSR and there is "NO GAURANTEE" that they ever will be......

Those were the people defending Disney booking new buyers into THV for the past month even though SSR owners aren't allowed to book yet. Obviously those people dont understand how verbal contracts and press releases do actually constitute a legally binding agreements which are enforceable in court.

THV has always been part of SSR. Look at the POS from the first phase of SSR. They were never part of the Vacation Club. disney used them for student housing. Also, if you look at the official filings with the state, they are part of SSR.

 

[El&Asmom]

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One thing I don't see is a washer dryer. Did I just miss that?

I think that it is next to the second bath across from the two spare bedrooms.

 

[JimMIA]

I think that it is next to the second bath across from the two spare bedrooms.

Thanks. I think you're right -- I just missed them.

 

[tjkraz]

Those were the people defending Disney booking new buyers into THV for the past month even though SSR owners aren't allowed to book yet.

And as stated in that thread, until such time as all 60 treehouses are added to the Saratoga Springs Condominium Association, a portion of the inventory is owned by Disney Vacation Development. DVD can do whatever they wish with units that they own and are not bound by Disney Vacation Club rules.

Obviously those people dont understand how verbal contracts and press releases do actually constitute a legally binding agreements which are enforceable in court.

Press releases are not legally binding. If they were, DVC members would be staying at the Eagle Pines resort today.

Verbal contracts CAN be legally binding, but there is no evidence of a contract in this case. In order for a contract to exist, both parties must agree to terms and there must be an element of Consideration (money or property changing hands, services rendered, etc.)

DVC simply saying "we plan to make the treehouses part of SSR" does not represent a contract because no transaction occurred on the basis of that statement. Existing SSR owners did not surrender anything of value in return for the promise of being able to book the THV. The current SSR Public Offering Statement lists the legal rights DVC/DVD must provide to SSR owners, and the Treehouse Villas are not (yet) part of that commitment.

Nevertheless, the odds of DVC not placing the treehouses in SSR and/or treating the THV differently than any other part of SSR are about as likely as them making Jambo House and Kidani Village separate properties. Legally it may be an option, but I cannot see any justification for DVC reneging at this point.

 

[simzac]

If THV isn't part of SSR, they why does the SSR point chart show THV?

 

[tjkraz]

If THV isn't part of SSR, they why does the SSR point chart show THV?

I'll should just apologize for even bringing this up again. Guess I couldn't resist the bait.

My comments harken back to another recent thread about the legal status of the THV. Strictly from a LEGAL perspective, I do not believe anything has changed. The THV have not yet been declared into inventory at SSR so technically anything could happen.

However, every single comment that DVC has made to date including press releases, point chart, etc. indicate they have every intention of putting the THV in SSR.

It was just a secondary discussion over whether DVC's press releases and public statements are binding or not (no, IMHO) but I cannot imagine any set of circumstances in which DVC would change course at this late date.

Sorry for the confusion.

 

[KevGuy]

I really hope they make a new quick service resturant or something because Artists Pallette is too small for SSR as it is now....Nevermind adding in another 60 THVs.

 

[Jeremy&Susan]

Verbal contracts CAN be legally binding, but there is no evidence of a contract in this case. In order for a contract to exist, both parties must agree to terms and there must be an element of Consideration (money or property changing hands, services rendered, etc.)

DVC simply saying "we plan to make the treehouses part of SSR" does not represent a contract because no transaction occurred on the basis of that statement. Existing SSR owners did not surrender anything of value in return for the promise of being able to book the THV. The current SSR Public Offering Statement lists the legal rights DVC/DVD must provide to SSR owners, and the Treehouse Villas are not (yet) part of that commitment.

So if your continued line of reasoning would hold true, (Of course I would only be talking about holding true in a court of law because you keep sighting legal grounds, even though you haven't asked a lawyer and said you aren't one) selling a contract to a person stating that THV will be part of SSR wouldn't constitute "CONSIDERATION". WOW you have now set a new legal precedence; you should be a judge with your ability to come to a legal conclusion after throwing away all legal precedence and a bunch of common sense as well.

CONSIDERATION has traditionally been $1 in the US court system along with many other westernized nations. Newer legal rulings in many states (don't know about Florida), has interpreted "CONSIDERATION" as the reasonable "EXPECTATION" of an equitable exchange and requires absolutely NO monetary exchange to legally seal a deal. It also does not require a legally notarized contract signed by both parties. Verbal Agreements are in fact enforcable.

Your lack of legal knowledge is obvious, so do yourself and everybody else a favor and stop defending your position until you get some advice from people in the legal profession.

The reason nobody is taking Disney to court is they would have to prove how they were wronged, generally done in terms of $’s. That is practically impossible and Disney knows it, so Disney has been acting in less than honorable ways with impunity.

Defending your position is one thing. Stating your opinion as fact without having any competent advice or experience, other than being a message board prophet, is really comical.

“Watch out Judge Judy, there is a new sheriff in town”

 

[tjkraz]

Three comments:

1. Do we know that DVC has sold any SSR points with the promise of being able to book the THV? SSR has been out of active sales since roughly July and the THV announcement was in September.

2. There are tens-of-thousands of SSR owners who did not give DVC even $1 in return for the ability to book the Treehouse Villas at 11 months.

3. You are correct that it is unlikely anyone would challenge the decision if DVC switched-course with regard to the THV. So there effectively is no legal roadblock.

As I have said repeatedly, I don't see any reason why DVC would not follow thru with its commitment to add the THV to SSR. Clearly this was not a decision made overnight and it would require...catastrophic circumstances in order for DVC to reconsider. But if the catastrophic were to occur, I don't envision anyone winning damages against DVC by citing the existence of a verbal contract.

YMMV

 

[hakepb]

If it runs like they did before when they were part of Disney Institute the buses went to the THV first and then the main resort.

Am I the only SSR owner that hopes that THV is not another added stop(s) on all bus routes?

That could make for one crazy long ride home from the MK at night, especially if you are standing and stay at the Springs

And on the THV side of things, even if you only have a 10 minute bus wait, how long would it be before you actually get to a park? The quickest you can expect to get to the MK, 45+ minutes?

 

[CarolA]

Well on an unrelated note to "buses" and "are they or aren't they" I was driving to OKW yesterday and there hanging from a crane above the trees...part of a villa! Too bad I didn't have a camera with me. Very cool LOL!

 

[tjkraz]

Am I the only SSR owner that hopes that THV is not another added stop(s) on all bus routes?

That could make for one crazy long ride home from the MK at night, especially if you are standing and stay at the Springs

And on the THV side of things, even if you only have a 10 minute bus wait, how long would it be before you actually get to a park? The quickest you can expect to get to the MK, 45+ minutes?

I'm not particularly troubled by it. Look at it from the aspect of what will be added to the current experience. There will be 2 stops by the THV so that's maybe another 2-3 minutes added to the current loop. With the small number of villas, load / unload time should be minimal.

With the new technology Disney is adding to the transportation system, I wonder if they will add some means of detecting guests to the THV bus stops. They could use motion sensors or some type of imaging technology to recognize when guests are waiting. If there are no guests at a THV stop, they could be skipped entirely on that particular trip.

 

[CarolA]

Oh, I think this is going to be fun. Those folks who thought that some of the current units were too far to walk too are going to hate THV! LOL! I jogged that way this weekend. It's going to be a trek......