Treasure Planet to replace Waterworld when talking about big budget bombs?

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From what I can find on the net, it appears that Treasure Planet cost between $140m & $180m to produce and market. Looks like it will bring in roughly $40m in domestic gross.

By comparison, Waterworld cost between $170m & $190m according to several sites and did nearly $90m in domestic gross.
 
I haven't seen Treasure Planet yet, but there's just NO way it could be worse (in story quality) than Waterworld. That movie was just AWFUL. Maybe when TP comes out on video/DVD, it will make up some of the loss?
 
Well, one thing is for certain:

Treasure Planet probably won't be inspiring any of the best shows ever to grace a theme park in it's lifetime.
 
I am willing to bet Disney is going to actually try to re-support TP, especially prior to the DVD release. And its most likely going to happen at Tomorrowland in Anaheim.
After all form is following fact at DCA, its a bust but they keep on giving it CPR...:p


Personally I think TP will be a sleeper, it really does need a ride made after it, perhaps the old Rocket Rods building could be re-themed??????
Instead of the rod it could be a solar sail buggie thingie;)
 

If i remember correctly Waterworld did very good in ticket sales overseas and ended up not being that much of a bomb. It lost money but isnt in the same boat that Treasue Planet appears to be in. Also another major bomb was the movie Pluto Nash. All of eddie Murphy's movies have been bombs of late and isnt he in a upcoming disney release??
 
I did a little research on reviews and comments about PN and almost unanimously the consensus was it was horrible, lame, stupid and plain lousy.

I bought XXX(Vin Diesel film) on DVD today instead:p
 
Pluto Nash is one of the biggest box office blunders in several years, although films like Treasure Planet and Bad Company are giving it a run for it's money. The really sad part is that Pluto Nash's failure was actually foreseen by it's distributor. In fact, the film was sitting on the shelf for nearly a year before actually being released.

I don't expect Haunted Mansion to do any better.
 
Haunted Mansion has to get some stellar reviews before I'll even approach it. This is my favorite ride and I shudder just to think of what Disney could do to it in the new movie. I'm still hopeful but it's getting harder and harder. :rolleyes:

Happy new year Disney. Let's start all of this over again. New ideas, new focus, new guy in charge?
 
I just wanted to say that I took my 4 & 5 year old to see TP last week. I actually enjoyed it much, much better than Lilo & Stitch (if that tells you anything)! Sorry to see that it's doing so bad at the box office but maybe it will rebound through DVD sales.
 
In Hollywood there are many levels of failure. But the gradations from “disappointment” to “career ender” to “disaster” to the lower levels isn’t based on the dollars that were lost – it’s based on how people use the failure to further their own ends.

‘Waterworld’ really isn’t considered a major disaster around town because no one really benefited from its failure (other than to dampen the career of Kevin Costner which is considered a good thing). ‘Pluto Nash’ is ignored because no one wants to be accused of bashing Eddie Murphy. And the biggest flop you’ve never heard of was ‘Town & Country’ – over a $100 million to make and market with less than $3 million at the box office – because Hollywood Old Guard establishment types like Warren Beatty can force others to hide those things.

‘Pearl Harbor’ is considered a disaster because it ended Disney’s role as a major studio in town. ‘Heaven’s Gate’ is considered a big disaster because people used that flop to bankrupt United Artists and kick off the first wave of merger-mania. Further back ‘Cleopatra’ is remembered because it was the end of 20th Century Fox and the old studio system.

‘Treasure Planet’ is going to be remembered because it is being used as the excuse to drive the last nails in Disney Feature Animation. Eisner and his orcs are all over town right now telling anyone who can’t escape that ‘TP’ is proof of Eisner’s longstanding bias – traditional animation is dead, no one wants to see it, having an original story is overrated, and buying third party computer movies is the only smart business move. The official line goes on is that animated features simply don’t offer the return anymore and therefore the only smart course is to limit exposure (i.e., make them on the cheap).

So while ‘Treasure’ will loose a lot of money, that’s not the important point. Eisner is using the film to justify the stuff he was doing all along: cheap sequels. When anyone questions him about that, all he has to do is point to ‘TP’. That is the way he’ll keep the memory of the movie long after it’s been written off the ledger sheets.


P.S. The buzz coming out of ‘The Haunted Mansion’ is far scarier than anything you’ll see in the movie. The director is being quoted in the trades as saying that movie is better than the ride and that Disney should change the attraction to match the movie. And yes, there are rumors that someone’ already pitched the idea of having Eddie record a new narration for the attraction (the first of many changes).
 
From what I've read, TP is doing good overseas especially in France. I am sure it will loose money, just not as much as people think.
 
Its sad that eisne ris using a bomb that he created to try to put a end to the best animated satff in the world if AV is correct(i dont doubt it). This shows that eisner doesnt get it and wont ever get it, the story is the whole thing if if disney would again create a animated feature up to the quality of Walts era and also katzentbergs era the bottom line would improve. The problem is he thinks every animated moive must make Lion King money to be considered a success and imho he is wrong!!!
And the idea of eddie murphy doing the voice for HM is indeed scary and would be a attempt to ruin what has always been a disney classic attraction!!
 
>>>‘Pluto Nash’ is ignored because no one wants to be accused of bashing Eddie Murphy.<<<

>>>The director is being quoted in the trades as saying that movie is better than the ride and that Disney should change the attraction to match the movie.<<<

The politics in Hollywood scare me sometimes...
 












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