Travel shaming. Are you limiting your social media posts?

[adkkev]

Neither. Covid tests are still hard to get here, and dh couldn't take 2 weeks off from work

So the quarantine rules are for “other people”? You and your family were exempt? Or you just didn’t care what the rules were?

 

[DisneyOma]

Can I quarantine for a shorter period of time if my stay is shorter than 14 days?

Yes, you can come to Maine and quarantine for the length of your stay if it is less than 14 days.

The pp didn't have to quarantine for 14 days if she was just there for a weekend.

But did she quarantine (stay in her hotel room/rental house/ family home) for the entire weekend? No, she went to a funeral. Hopefully it was outside and there was plenty of space to social distance. She also attended a family gathering with lots of people before that.

 

[kaytieeldr]

You didn't fix it. People were forced out of their jobs. They didn't lose their jobs through fault of their own. I certainly would be very angry if I had to cancel my vacation plans and use the money to pay bills because my government deemed my employment not to be essential. Every single employee is essential to themselves and their family. Their employment in fact is the most essential thing in their life.

Regrettable that anyone would react with anger over disappointment in not being able to enjoy an optional (vs mandatory) event. Worse that anybody would be very angry. Since the word "if" is being used in the quoted statement, it seems that the poster was not actually affected? But then also was not eligible for the $600 weekly supplement that was causing people to decline going back to work?

You weren't allowed to go to the funeral because of your governor. We also weren't allowed to go to funerals or to weddings, unless we were the governor, then we would be allowed to go to both events. One also don't need to ever wear a mask or social distance when one is the governor standing with your entourage shoulder to shoulder on stage demanding everyone else wears a mask and social distance.

Sounds like all the issues in this one state relate to its governor? Constituents should speak with their votes, not throw unsupported accusations at every/any state.

Oh wait a minute. Your experts stated that asymptomatic people don't spread the virus. So now what?

Where did the quoted poster claim this?

 

[Jadyreen1282]

Travel while you can. May be worse later...mad max worse without the creepy guy in the mask and the little kid with long hair and fur boots.

We are driving out to Arizona next month. Hoping we don't get stopped at the border, of Illinois.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Yup, most of us believe you are responsible for you and I am responsible for me. No one is responsible for me but me.

Most of us believe that any two people wearing masks are safer for both, as well as anyone they encounter later, is more responsible for everyone than it one of neither wears a mask and follows other mandate and recommendations.

Good point. When they mandate sombreros, I may have to draw the line.

But why?

The federal $600 added alone is $15/hour, for not doing anything. Add that to your 50% and minimum wage earners are earning $18/hour. Our 1 week employees at $13/hour made $21/hour for watching Netflix while our 25 year employees stayed working making less.

It's absolutely possible to be bitter over not being laid off. If an employee offers an EAP, perhaps it's a benefit active employees should look into?

 

[kaytieeldr]

But many many more will be just fine. Precautions work.

edited due to being unaware of the necessity of being 100% on topic.

 

[Farro]

Many of the "just fine" persons are or could later be suffering a range of permanent conditions - from mild to devastating to death - later as a direct result of COVID-19.

What does that have to do with travel shaming?

 

[Jrb1979]

We've done a couple of in-state road trips. We felt very safe doing it. I admit though--I felt a bit of guilt and posted very little.
Hard to justify pictures at a fabulous place while so many are suffering amid this pandemic.

Disney trips seem particularly flagrant. We still hope to be there in October and I have a feeling it will be a quiet trip with only close friends in the know.

How about you?

I have yet to see any travel shaming going on here in Canada. People post constantly their travel pictures from around the province. I think the shaming stems from those who are traveling to hot spots for a vacation. I personally could care less if people want to do that as long as they follow the quarantine rules if they are in a state that has them. While it may not effect me personally, I just want things to get better. So the more people follow rules put in place the quicker things have a chance to be better.

 

[NotUrsula]

I'm not all that much of a social media person in general, but my rule is that I don't post travel pix at all.

I have many friends and family who are not as financially fortunate as we are right now, so I feel that posting travel pix would be kind of unnecessarily cruel under the circumstances. I originally decided to shut up about travel back in the recession of 2008, and the reasons still hold.

 

[Jennasis]

I'm on vacation Now. Anyone who tried to shame my Facebook pics would be deleted from my friend list. So far nobody has tried to. We haven't been within 20' of another human for most of our trip. We are keeping to ourselves in our private rental home and taking part in state park visits and other socially distant activities. We stopped in Disney Springs a few days ago and social distancing was very easy. We will quarantine when we get home.

 

[sjrec]

The federal $600 added alone is $15/hour, for not doing anything. Add that to your 50% and minimum wage earners are earning $18/hour. Our 1 week employees at $13/hour made $21/hour for watching Netflix while our 25 year employees stayed working making less.

Well, not to worry, because the stimulus ended 7/31 and plans to aid state unemployment payments will only provide 70% of their original wages. And I am not familiar with every state’s requirements for receiving unemployment benefits-ex working for only one week and receiving unemployment. I just know a lot of people are hurting.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I'm not all that much of a social media person in general, but my rule is that I don't post travel pix at all.

I have many friends and family who are not as financially fortunate as we are right now, so I feel that posting travel pix would be kind of unnecessarily cruel under the circumstances. I originally decided to shut up about travel back in the recession of 2008, and the reasons still hold.

I don't think for one minute any of the people I know who are less financially fortunate than me are thinking "how dare she post this photo, if I can't afford to go why should I have to look at it". Likewise I don't feel that way for people who take vacations when I can't or vacations of a higher caliber than mine. I post primarily to remember the photos myself as time passes, to join in with friends especially ones I don't get to see often. I've been in the position of a vacation being a far away thought where my only concern was do I even have enough gas money to get to that job interview. To me the attitude of a person is where it's at. I'm not really friends with people who boast about their vacations in a snotty way but nor am I friends with people who begrudge someone taking a vacation and would feel like it's cruel under the circumstances. I can understand where you're coming from I just don't have anyone who is actually my friend who would actually be upset such that you describe.

 

[DisneyOma]

I'm not all that much of a social media person in general, but my rule is that I don't post travel pix at all.

I have many friends and family who are not as financially fortunate as we are right now, so I feel that posting travel pix would be kind of unnecessarily cruel under the circumstances. I originally decided to shut up about travel back in the recession of 2008, and the reasons still hold.

I don't post vacation photos because my mom complains that I didn't take her, or makes a snide remark (which is why I don't take her) and I don't want people to know we are not home! (I also don't post them after because I forget, LOL!)

 

[Disney loving Iowan]

I have been struggling with if it is really appropriate for us to go on our trip on January. Especially when I see other people out doing things and I worry for them. I have barely left my house for the past 5 months. I have only gone out to Target or to the grocery store when I have to. I haven't even been out to a restaurant. So on one hand I think going may not be the best idea. On the other hand I would lose a lot of money by not going. Plus I think with all I have sacrificed by not leaving my house the last 5 months and who knows how long in the future I shouldn't feel shamed for going. If we do go I don't know that I will post about it. Mostly though because we haven't told my aunt we are going and I think she would be hurt that we didn't invite her.

 

[disykat]

I see no need to respond to posts where I see people traveling to places that don't appear safe and posting pictures that show them not following guidelines. Doesn't mean I don't think thoughts about them.

I have no problem with people posting their safety minded breaks (like an empty beach or park) and I've done the same myself. Many of us are looking for "safe" ways to take a break and get away.

It just seems really weird to me that people actually post pictures of themselves in big crowds, at weddings that are clearly not following the rules in their area, etc. IMO, they are the ones provoking the "shaming response" if they get it. If you want to say "look at me, I'm not following the rules!" you're generally going to get a reaction.

 

[kittylady1972]

We've done a couple of in-state road trips. We felt very safe doing it. I admit though--I felt a bit of guilt and posted very little.
Hard to justify pictures at a fabulous place while so many are suffering amid this pandemic.

Disney trips seem particularly flagrant. We still hope to be there in October and I have a feeling it will be a quiet trip with only close friends in the know.

How about you?

Just planned a super secret last minute trip...just two healthy adults in their 40s...to WDW. Only my kids and my FIL know right now. Hopefully my kids don't tell anyone...probably should let them know that. I just don't want the scrutiny or negativity to affect us. I will tell people once we are back...eventually.

I'm in MD, on the DE line, albeit a more rural area and not as congested. Luckily I haven't noticed to much in the way of poor mask wearing in those two states. People somewhere are getting the message, even if they aren't everywhere.

I feel pretty safe living in MD too and traveling around here. Masks are the norm everywhere. I go to work and socially distance and wear masks when I can't. Two of my kids work in a restaurant so they wear masks there and deal with plenty of people who don't want to comply. We did a quick trip to Bethany Beach last week and felt very safe there also.

I feel slightly bad about not telling anybody where we are going but I still plan to enjoy it and be extra cautious.

 

[Jrb1979]

The only people I will shame and I will rat them out to the proper people is the ones who ignore the quarantine rules in place. Here in Canada if I know you and hear you went to the US and didn't quarantine upon return I will call the authorities and report it. I don't care if it makes me the bad guy.

When I have seen people on this board mention how they will get around the N.Y. quarantine rules by flying from else where really upsets me.

 

[anthony2k7]

Bonkers to feel you need to hide going somewhere.

If you feel you need to hide where you're going then...

1) is it guilt because you know actually you shouldn't be going?

2) if you're confident what you are doing is OK, then it sounds like you need to re-evaluate who your friends are.

 

[mjkacmom]

Do I feel comfortable traveling right now? No. Do I wish other people would stay home? Yes. But I know that that’s not happening. In a perfect world, no one would be doing non-essential travel right now and we could get this virus under control. But the world is obviously not perfect. Honestly, I’d rather see people travel while taking necessary precautions than see them hosting big house parties or crowding into bars where no distancing or measures are being taken.

That exactly how I feel. We had 13 of us in a rented 8 bedroom house on the beach, tested beforehand, had some day visitors, no eating out, kids were allowed on the boardwalk during the week with masks, no rides. It felt so.....normal.

 

[TLSnell1981]

But did she quarantine (stay in her hotel room/rental house/ family home) for the entire weekend? No, she went to a funeral. Hopefully it was outside and there was plenty of space to social distance. She also attended a family gathering with lots of people before that.

We've had six deaths and five funerals since March. No one died of or with COVID. Zero people contracted the virus. No...the funerals were NOT outdoors. Two no masks...three required masks. Two involved gatherings before and after the funerals. One limited guests to under 25 at a time the others less than 75.

We work, vacation, go to church, restaurants, hair/ nail salons, doctors, dentist AND the beach. Also, wash our hands, social distance and wear masks when required.

So far...precautions have worked.