Transportation Complaint

[maxiesmom]

I am one who has also completely given up on bus etiquette. Anyone in my family will give up a seat for an elderly person, pregnant woman, mother with small kids, or small children...I have stopped expecting it to be done for us.
Last year, my DD was barely 4 and we got on a bus with full seats. We walked as far back as we could, which meant stopping just before the steps that go up to that upper bus level and being in the open area by the back doors. Everyone around us(including me) had something to hold onto EXCEPT my 4yo. She was too short to even reach the open area by the steps and just couldn't really grab anything. I was trying to hold onto her AND hold onto the rail. It was in the early AM on the way to a park and I guess I was just in a MOOD. You know...the kind where you sort of THINK OUT LOUD? Well, I was thinking OUT LOUD to my DH and older DD's about how absolutely RUDE it was that no one would at least give up a seat for my little one when it was darn OBVIOUS that she had NOWHERE to hold on. The driver wasn't being overly careful and it doesn't take much to be jostled around on the busses anyway. She was going everywhere and was getting scared. FINALLY, after hearing my complaint and seeing my DD in tears a sour looking middle aged lady got up and said that she was sick of hearing my DD cry and gave her the seat. I started to refuse her, when DH told me to let DD sit down(for her own safety, it wasn't worth it to prove a point). The rest of the trip, this lady was standing up looking like at DD and I like we were Satanic. When we got off the bus, DH had to talk me into not letting it ruin my day. After about an hour I was okay. DD was fine as soon as we got off the bus.

I have always been one willing to stand as has the rest of my family. Also, if there had been something for my 4 yo to easily grab hold of, e would have been fine. We've done it before. We just weren't near a pole that she could grab, and no one offerd to trade. We were crammed in like sardines.

At that moment, I gave up. Unbelievable.

Let me also say that I think it perfectly fine for a child above 3 to stand if they have to...its the way the cookie crumbles, but this was just an odd situation we were in and the fact that NO ONE would even trade spaces with my DD so sho could grasp a pole was amazing to me.

Just totally UNBELIEVABLE.

And you thought the people on the bus were rude? Then what were you? I know there have been times when I was on the bus that you couldn't even get up to offer a person a seat, the bus was so packed. But you saw the bus was full, you got on anyway, so you put your child in that position. Your child who is relying on YOU to keep them safe, not on total strangers. The people on the bus are not the ones to blame for your child being in a bad spot, you are.

I would have looked at you like you were Satanic too, the way you behaved.

 

[Robo]

QUOTE from Disney.go.com/WDW/Resorts

First line under "Resorts"

Complimentary transportation


There was no requirement there to purchase tickets to qualify for transportation listed on the Disney website.

But, buying tickets ALSO has the attached perk of riding Disney Transportation.

The situations are not mutually exclusive.
Both staying at the resort and/or buying tickets allows guests to ride the buses.

For that matter, just a VISIT to the WDW area allows riding Disney Transportation.

 

[boldlyreal]

Maybe my DH is old fashioned but he will not sit on a bus or any public place if any female is standing. He also will give his seat to anyone who looks like they may need it. We have raised our DS's 15 and 13 to be the same way. My DD and I stand also, but when she was small I always sat with her on my lap. My DH and DS's are also those guys who never wear a hat indoors, holds doors for people, stand when a woman comes to the table, offer their arms to me and our DD and if I call down the steps for them, I get a yes Maam? as a reply.

T~

 

[CanadianGuy]

I read someplace and of course I can't find it now -- that WDW Transportation was partly funded by taxes -- like any public transportation system would be -- in the case of Disney - the taxes came from the RCID / Lake Buena Vista area..

But of course, I can find no such reference to that after searching extensively.

Get your last licks in this one is almost done.. we're going in circles calling each other rude.. the end is near... (Now where did I put that fork... ?)

Knox

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

Maybe my DH is old fashioned but he will not sit on a bus or any public place if any female is standing.

What you call "old fashioned" others may call sexist. I'm not saying I would but I would find it extremely odd if a man who was a stranger to me stood up to give me a seat on a bus. I'm an able-bodied young woman whose not pregnant or carrying a small child.

 

[boldlyreal]

I was saying that my old-fashioned or "sexist" if you want to label him that DH and sons never sit on the Disney bus because there is always someone getting on the bus that needs it more than they do. If he did sit and he offered his seat to a female and she refused he isn't going to force her to take it. I also stated my DD and I stand also, which my husband frowns about but excepts. I guess it's the do unto others mentality. It works for us. We don't worry if it works for other Disney guests.

T~

 

[maxiesmom]

Last licks, err thoughts? The Disney busses are just public transportation in a cute bus. Not everyone gets a seat. If you feel as though someone in your family would not be able to stand for a bus ride, don't use the Disney busses. Rent a car or use taxis. Don't rely on total strangers to get up and offer you a seat, because it may not happen. Someone might stand up for you, but you might not get that lucky. But if knowing all of this you still choose to get on a Disney bus, don't glare and complain if you end up standing for the ride.

 

[GrowingUpDisney]

This is one topic that will NEVER, EVER, EVER be agreed on. I say it is time to stop beating this dead horse...don't you agree Knox?

 

[Mr. & Mrs. Smith]

I also stated my DD and I stand also, which my husband frowns about but excepts.

Well, I would hope that he accepts it. It's not really up to him if you and your DD choose to stand or sit, is it?

 

[lizardqueen]

Last licks, err thoughts? The Disney busses are just public transportation in a cute bus. Not everyone gets a seat. If you feel as though someone in your family would not be able to stand for a bus ride, don't use the Disney busses. Rent a car or use taxis. Don't rely on total strangers to get up and offer you a seat, because it may not happen. Someone might stand up for you, but you might not get that lucky. But if knowing all of this you still choose to get on a Disney bus, don't glare and complain if you end up standing for the ride.

Well said. Just want to add that if said person that desperately needs a seat is well enough to be traveling around a theme park or resort, they are well enough to stand or wait for another bus. If standing on a bus is that detrimental to their well being, they probably should consider an alternative form of transportation?

Do I think it is nice for someone to deem another worthy enough to have their seat? Yes.

Will I give up my seat if I see an elderly pregnant lady carrying 2 year old triplets and a stroller while her DH neglects her? If I haven't waited for another bus to come around just so I could sit, you bet I would. Only after I gave her DH some hard looks for not helping her.

Am I going to let another person call me names because I am tired and want to sit? No. So hopefully I don't ever run into someone on one of the busses that thinks they are entitled to what I waited for.

It is up to each individual to take responsiblity for the well being of them and their family. If you aren't doing that, why do you expect others to?

 

[CleveRocks]

Been there, done that.

Exhausted 4 and 6 year old, in a long line after Wishes -- MY CHOICE to keep them out so late ... therefore my responsibility that they are tired and a little cranky.

Long line for the POFQ bus. Must have waited for three buses to come and go. There we were at the very front of the queue, the driver motioning that there was still room (standing room at the front of the bus) for us. I stood aside and told the family of 4 behind us that they could go in front of us, and they did.

I CHOSE for my family to NOT put them in a dangerous situation. I agree it's not safe for little ones to stand on a moving bus. I totally agree.

But my blood is no redder than anyone else's blood. My situation should not become a problem for anyone else. I have to make the choice -- stand around even longer with over-tired kids (my daughter sleeping in my arms by now), or risk their lives in the hopes that someone will be kind.

Seriously, shame on anyone who thinks kids standing on a bus is unsafe but still pushes the kids on the bus hoping that their sense of entitlement will be fulfilled. You've just let your ego put your children in harm's way.

It may take a village to raise a child ... but i'm still not trusting my child's very LIFE to hoping the other villagers "do the right thing."

 

[CanadianGuy]

"And the winner of this argument is Cleve Rocks -- cuz he was the last poster.."

Just kidding. Anyway.. this one is DONE. Agree to disagree.. Thanks!

Knox