TransAtlantic Hitting very bad seas!

[BadPinkTink]

HOHO was ok but nothing awesome. The old U2 studio is a fenced off hole in the ground for instance; or at least it was two summers ago when we did the bus.

If there's a choice between really exploring around in the Book area vs the bus, I recommend the book.

Which HOHO tour did you do? There are at least 3 different ones, a red bus which has two routes, a green bus and a yellow bus. I am from Dublin and each of the routes have different things. I have done the red bus tour with UK friends and found it very enjoyable. Did you research the route and the places it goes past before your trip?

 

[Simba One]

Just off the TA this morning. Yes, 33 people missed the ship on a Disney excursion. The traffic in Dublin was beyond horrible,
. We waited as long as we could but the tide was going out and we had to leave or stay the night. Those. People got dinner and a ferry ride overnight to Liverpool arriving at 5 am where they were allowed to board. For 5 days we had 25-30 ft swells/waves. I saw one woman in a wheel chair. No one on the atrium floor vomiting or sleeping. People who felt ill stayed in their rooms. Most of us took Bonnie and we're just fine. We were not allowed on the outside decks for 5 days except for brief visits to deck 9. No deck 4 or 10. All in all it was a fantastic trip I would do again in a heartbeat. Liverpool was amazing!!!!

 

[Simba One]

Just off the TA this morning. Yes, 33 people missed the ship on a Disney excursion. The traffic in Dublin was beyond horrible,
. We waited as long as we could but the tide was going out and we had to leave or stay the night. Those. People got dinner and a ferry ride overnight to Liverpool arriving at 5 am where they were allowed to board. For 5 days we had 25-30 ft swells/waves. I saw one woman in a wheel chair. No one on the atrium floor vomiting or sleeping. People who felt ill stayed in their rooms. Most of us took Bonnie and we're just fine. We were not allowed on the outside decks for 5 days except for brief visits to deck 9. No deck 4 or 10. All in all it was a fantastic trip I would do again in a heartbeat. Liverpool was amazing!!!!

Btw, the excursion was to see a movie set (?) and the producer directors talked too long. The people kept wanting to leave but too much talking, too much traffic.

 

[nzdisneymom]

I just want to mention that the BofK took a LOT longer than anticipated because there's just so much else to see there. And seeing the things on the way to the book enhanced what we saw, IMO. And seeing the areas afterwards was nice as well.

HOHO was ok but nothing awesome. The old U2 studio is a fenced off hole in the ground for instance; or at least it was two summers ago when we did the bus.

If there's a choice between really exploring around in the Book area vs the bus, I recommend the book.

@bumbershoot - thank you for this! We found out that the shuttle drops off at Merrion Square (Oscar Wilde) and to remember that the lines for the shuttle will be longer as the day goes on. So we would want to be ready for the shuttle probably around 3 PM - not sure that the cost of the HOHO would be worth it if there are enough other things we'd like to see/explore that wouldn't require the transportation that the HOHO affords.

 

[ldo]

if someone could list the entertainment, activities, or Navigators, that would be awesome. Wondering what the extra activities, pm entertainment is for a 15 day?

 

[ImprovGal]

if someone could list the entertainment, activities, or Navigators, that would be awesome. Wondering what the extra activities, pm entertainment is for a 15 day?

I tossed my navigators in the final packing dash, but one of the activity highlights for me was a series of improv workshops that led up to a short performance set for the adults one night in Fathoms and a family-friendly set in the family talent show the final sea day.

 

[o&smom]

Just off the TA this morning. Yes, 33 people missed the ship on a Disney excursion. The traffic in Dublin was beyond horrible,
. We waited as long as we could but the tide was going out and we had to leave or stay the night. Those. People got dinner and a ferry ride overnight to Liverpool arriving at 5 am where they were allowed to board. For 5 days we had 25-30 ft swells/waves. I saw one woman in a wheel chair. No one on the atrium floor vomiting or sleeping. People who felt ill stayed in their rooms. Most of us took Bonnie and we're just fine. We were not allowed on the outside decks for 5 days except for brief visits to deck 9. No deck 4 or 10. All in all it was a fantastic trip I would do again in a heartbeat. Liverpool was amazing!!!!

Do you know how they handled acces to the kids club Edge which was moved to deck 9 in the last year? Were that age group of kids not allowed access to their club for that many days?

 

[ImprovGal]

Do you know how they handled acces to the kids club Edge which was moved to deck 9 in the last year? Were that age group of kids not allowed access to their club for that many days?

Disclaimer: I don't have children, nor did I visit Edge during Open House this cruise.

Since the new Edge space is next to Cove (right off the midship elevators), I don't think it was inaccessible during the cruise. Cove Cafe was open during it's normal hours, even on the windy days. The only adjustment was that the forward-facing doors were locked, with the port side doors being the only operating entrance/exit.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

I love deck 2, and honestly if the seas are that bad there isn't going to be anywhere on the ship that isnt rocking and rolling.

Quite true. Just off this cruise, and I talked to several people who were on decks 5 & 8 who didn't stay in their room during the daytime, at all, and spent their time on deck 3. Reason given? - Because the swaying on the higher decks was worse than the lower one.

Oh, and if anyone's interested - there's a new Castaway Club bag (at least for this cruise):

Sort of a rucksack look, drawstring on the top of the bag (under the flap). I believe the cup was the Platinum gift that was added. It's a thermal cup (top doesn't screw in, however, so can come out fairly easily).

 

[richjive]

Anyone have the navigator's or more specifically the 2016 Transatlantic logo? It is usually printed on the cruise specific t-shirts/ postcards. It is also traditionally on the Front Page for the day 1 Navigator. TIA!

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

The vibration and effects are always worse on lower decks. Basic science the closer to something you are the more effect, the further away you are the least effect. Lower decks are close to the sea, waves, engine, vibration, so have the greatest effect.

At low levels it's a random movement sudden left sudden right, sudden righ, no pattern. Higher decks it's ironed out to a more predictable sway. The random effect causes nausea, add to this not seeing the horizon, you are better off viewing the horizon and getting fresh air.

If the ship closes of open decks in rough seas, on inside rooms you will feel locked in and no where to go, in a verandah you are not claustrophobic.

 

[Ofinn]

The vibration and effects are always worse on lower decks. Basic science the closer to something you are the more effect, the further away you are the least effect. Lower decks are close to the sea, waves, engine, vibration, so have the greatest effect.

At low levels it's a random movement sudden left sudden right, sudden righ, no pattern. Higher decks it's ironed out to a more predictable sway. The random effect causes nausea, add to this not seeing the horizon, you are better off viewing the horizon and getting fresh air.

If the ship closes of open decks in rough seas, on inside rooms you will feel locked in and no where to go, in a verandah you are not claustrophobic.

Have you actually ever had a room on deck 2? Or an inside room. I've been on deck 2 several times, midship decks 7,8 10, and forward 5 and 10. Forward deck 10 was by far the worst for movement and we were in calm seas. Ever tried running on the treadmills on deck 11 forward. Staying on the treadmill can be quite a challenge sometimes. I have noticed the least amount of movement on deck 2 midship.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

Have you actually ever had a room on deck 2? Or an inside room. I've been on deck 2 several times, midship decks 7,8 10, and forward 5 and 10. Forward deck 10 was by far the worst for movement and we were in calm seas. Ever tried running on the treadmills on deck 11 forward. Staying on the treadmill can be quite a challenge sometimes. I have noticed the least amount of movement on deck 2 midship.

We always book deck 2. Yes, on the recent EBTA, the seas were really rocky, and the motion was felt ship-wide. I already posted that I talked with people who had rooms on deck 5 and 8 who said they had to spend their days on deck 3, because there was too much swaying in their rooms. We were (again) on deck 2 for this that cruise, and I just don't see how someone can say vibrations, wave motion, or any other issue that causes any one part of the ship to "feel" movement won't be felt on the whole ship to some degree.

I've read several articles written by people who've done some research into this and they all seem to agree that lower and midship is best, generally. But, again, what's "bad" motion to some isn't to others.

As to vibration - the worst vibrations I've ever encountered on a Disney ship were on the Fantasy, and it didn't matter if I was in in our deck 10 room, or on deck 3 in the dining room - it was bad everywhere.

 

[Flossbolna]

But, again, what's "bad" motion to some isn't to others.

I recently read an article that said that there are strong indicators that seasickness is far more a psychological phenomenon than a physical one. So, I think being in a spot where one thinks one is comfortable is already helpful. Wherever that might be on the ship.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

Have you actually ever had a room on deck 2? Or an inside room. I've been on deck 2 several times, midship decks 7,8 10, and forward 5 and 10. Forward deck 10 was by far the worst for movement and we were in calm seas. Ever tried running on the treadmills on deck 11 forward. Staying on the treadmill can be quite a challenge sometimes. I have noticed the least amount of movement on deck 2 midship.

Yes I have, once was enough.

 

[DISNEY FANTASY]

We always book deck 2. Yes, on the recent EBTA, the seas were really rocky, and the motion was felt ship-wide. I already posted that I talked with people who had rooms on deck 5 and 8 who said they had to spend their days on deck 3, because there was too much swaying in their rooms. We were (again) on deck 2 for this that cruise, and I just don't see how someone can say vibrations, wave motion, or any other issue that causes any one part of the ship to "feel" movement won't be felt on the whole ship to some degree.

I've read several articles written by people who've done some research into this and they all seem to agree that lower and midship is best, generally. But, again, what's "bad" motion to some isn't to others.

As to vibration - the worst vibrations I've ever encountered on a Disney ship were on the Fantasy, and it didn't matter if I was in in our deck 10 room room, or on deck 3 in the dining room - it was bad everywhere.

Far more articles say higher and midship is better.

A few here like to re write the laws of science on cause and effect, and to a small few other posters are not allowed to post anything negative re the wonderful deck 2.

Note deck 2 is cheaper for a big reason.

Those who say deck 2 is wonderful, if all categories were priced the same, I bet they wouldn't choose it.

Laws on cause and effect, the closer you are to impact / vibration, the more effect you get.

 

[Love2Cruz]

The best place to be in rocky seas are lower decks middle of the boat. It's the center of gravity law. To suggest higher decks would have less motion makes no sense scientifically. Or logically...the higher points of the ship will sway much more significantly than the lower decks.
Heavy items are always kept on the lower decks, the ships are able to maintain a better upright position on the lower decks during rocky seas.

 

[professorandmom]

The best place to be in rocky seas are lower decks middle of the boat.

I grew up in New England where many folks have sailboats. Children in a family were the "volunteer" to be sent up the mast in a bosun's chair when something in the rigging needed attention. Small ripples in the water were un-noticeable on deck but had the child in the mast swinging in great arcs. I learned this marine principle very fast (and fortunately who had a sister who was not afraid of heights!)
upper decks (or upper mast, in my experience) have far greater movement.

 

[PrincessShmoo]

I grew up in New England where many folks have sailboats. Children in a family were the "volunteer" to be sent up the mast in a bosun's chair when something in the rigging needed attention. Small ripples in the water were un-noticeable on deck but had the child in the mast swinging in great arcs. I learned this marine principle very fast (and fortunately who had a sister who was not afraid of heights!)
upper decks (or upper mast, in my experience) have far greater movement.

Thank you for reporting your experience.

 

[ImprovGal]

It all depends on what type of motion it is and where the pivot point is. If the ship is rocking front to back (like an amusement park pirate ship ride), then the further away from upper midship you are (either forward or aft), the more you'll feel the motion since you're further out on the pendulum. If the motion is rocking or swaying side-to-side, the pivot point on that pendulum is actually the bottom/center of the ship, so you'll feel that motion more on the upper decks.
Vibrations feel stronger the closer you are to the source of the vibration, so lower aft would be closer to the engines and those cabins save money by not having to put quarters into the bed to feel "magic fingers".