Todays Oprah Show.. do you think it's too soon?

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I'm flipping through and see Oprah interviewing Shawn Hornbeck's family and talking about his abuction.

I just changed it because I just thought it was way too soon for this to be so sensationalized or even more so than it is now. I heard Bill O'Reily stating how he didn't believe in the Stockholm syndrome and commenting on this poor kid.

I don't understand why the family would agree to this so soon.:confused:
 
I didn't see it, but for me, YES, it would be too soon or if at all.
 
I actually just caught this and it was handled very well. nothing was pushed, it was nicely done, I thought. normally I avoid this stuff like the plague, though.
 

Whats the stockholm syndrome?

The Stockholm syndrome is a psychological response sometimes seen in an abducted hostage, in which the hostage exhibits loyalty to the hostage-taker, in spite of the danger (or at least risk) in which the hostage has been placed. Stockholm syndrome is also sometimes discussed in reference to other situations with similar tensions, such as battered person syndrome, rape cases, child abuse cases, and bride kidnapping.



[edit] Origin of the name
The syndrome is named after the Norrmalmstorg robbery of Kreditbanken at Norrmalmstorg, Stockholm, Sweden, in which the bank robbers held bank employees hostage from August 23 to August 28 in 1973. In this case, the victims became emotionally attached to their victimizers, and even defended their captors after they were freed from their six-day ordeal. The term was coined by the criminologist and psychiatrist Nils Bejerot, who assisted the police during the robbery, and referred to the syndrome in a news broadcast.

It is sometimes referred to as Helsinki Syndrome; however, this may simply be due to the erroneous naming of the syndrome in popular media, for example by an expert psychologist and author who is a guest on a news program in the first Die Hard film.


[edit] Famous possible cases

Patty Hearst helped the SLA rob a bank two months after her kidnappingMillionaire heir Patty Hearst, after having been kidnapped by the Symbionese Liberation Army. Her unsuccessful legal defense was that she suffered from Stockholm syndrome and was coerced into aiding the SLA. She was convicted and imprisoned for her actions in the robbery, though her sentence was commuted in February 1979 by President Jimmy Carter, and she received a Presidential pardon from Bill Clinton.
Elizabeth Smart, a 14-year-old girl, was allegedly kidnapped and repeatedly raped by the mentally ill Brian David Mitchell who coerced and molested her during the months of June 2002 to March 2003; after initial harsh imprisonment, Smart spent several months living physically unrestrained with her captors. However, this may not be a case of Stockholm syndrome because she kept a journal in French about how much she hated her abductors, and she claims to have only co-operated out of fear.[1]
Japanese abducted to North Korea during the late 1970s and early 1980s. After five of them were allowed to return to Japan in October 2002, they exhibited behavior of submission to the North Korean regime and, given that the regime would not allow their North Korean-born children to join them in Japan right away, attempted to go back there to join them; however, their Japanese families, seeing this as symptoms of brainwashing, restrained them, and eventually the former abductees shed their North Korean identities symbolically by shedding the pins with pictures of previous dictator Kim Il Sung on them during a press conference and denouncing the North Korean regime as a "criminal state" in subsequent interviews, which eventually led to the release of their children in 2004.
Natascha Kampusch, an Austrian girl kidnapped by Wolfgang Priklopil at the age of 10, who escaped at the age of 18 in 2006, appears to have suffered from Stockholm syndrome, as evidenced by her grieving after her captor's suicide.
Colleen Stan was kidnapped and held for seven years as a sex slave by Cameron Hooker.
A&E's 'American Justice' episode 166. In 1977, Cameron Hooker kidnapped 20-year-old hitchhiker Colleen Stan and forced her to be his sex slave for seven years of physical and psychological abuse. At times she was even kept in a coffin-like box under his and his wife Janice's bed. Yet through it all, she stayed, even when it seemed she could escape. In the end, it would be left to a jury to answer the question: Was Colleen Stan brainwashed and forced to endure years of sexual degradation and mental torture as she and Janice Hooker contended, or a willing partner in her own enslavement, and as Cameron Hooker maintained, in a consensual "love" relationship? see also an in depth link about the story
Shawn Hornbeck, an American boy kidnapped in the USA by Michael Devlin at the age of 11, who was discovered at the age of 15 four years later in 2007, appears to have suffered from Stockholm syndrome, as he appears to have had several opportunities to excape over his imprisonment, being alowed to ride his bike for hours unsupervised and often left alone while his captor worked.

[edit] Lima syndrome
The Japanese embassy hostage crisis in December 1996 is currently touted as an example of a so-called Lima syndrome, in which the opposite effects from the Stockholm syndrome came into light. Rather than the captives becoming submissive, this incident showed signs of the MRTA guerillas becoming more sympathetic to the plights and needs of their hostages.


[edit] Other uses
Loyalty to a more powerful abuser — in spite of the danger that this loyalty puts the victim in — is common among victims of domestic abuse, battered partners and child abuse (dependent children). In many instances the victims choose to remain loyal to their abuser, and choose not to leave him or her, even when they are offered a safe placement in foster homes or safe houses. This syndrome was described by psychoanalysts of the object relations theory school (see Fairbairn) as the phenomenon of psychological identification with the more powerful abuser.


[edit] Evolutionary and psychoanalytic explanations
For an interpretation of the syndrome from the perspective of evolutionary psychology, see capture-bonding.

According to the psychoanalytic view of the syndrome, the tendency might well be the result of employing the strategy evolved by newborn babies to form an emotional attachment to the nearest powerful adult in order to maximize the probability that this adult will enable - at the very least - the survival of the child, if not also prove to be a good parental figure. This syndrome is considered a prime example for the defense mechanism of identification
 
I heard that they were doing this one show and that would be the end of it. I think they want to get the media attention out of their faces and move on with their recovery.
 
I'm flipping through and see Oprah interviewing Shawn Hornbeck's family and talking about his abuction.

I just changed it because I just thought it was way too soon for this to be so sensationalized or even more so than it is now. I heard Bill O'Reily stating how he didn't believe in the Stockholm syndrome and commenting on this poor kid.

I don't understand why the family would agree to this so soon.:confused:

Yes, I thought it was too soon. I was uncomfortable and turned the tv off.

:sad2: This guy doesn't roll his eyes enough to express my opinion of Bill O'Reilly. Until he is a scared 11 yo kid being held against his will, until he goes through the pshychological torment of this kid, then he can keep his ideas about stockholm syndrome to himself. The last thing this poor boy needs is to have a bunch of outsiders second guessing what he went through.
 
I have to say, I did say above that oprah did a good, calm, caring job (I thought) with the show. But I don't think that everyone has to know what happened. I think we all know already, but I wish these two boys could fade from people's minds and try to find normalcy in their lives again. I'm afraid the media will not allow that, but I wish it would happen. I think the only people who need to know the details are the lawyers, any other experts needed for testimony, the members of the jury, and the judge, so they can put that monster away for the rest of his life.
 
I actually just caught this and it was handled very well. nothing was pushed, it was nicely done, I thought. normally I avoid this stuff like the plague, though.

I agree with you. Its a story that has captivated the nation. Every news organization is no doubt clamouring for the interview. I thought the interview with Oprah answered every question that would be permitted to be asked and answered those questions. Set the limit on which ones that couldn't be asked and hopefully ended the vulture mentality that is sure to follow this tragic story.
 
It's on right now in St. Louis. I'm taping it and will look at it later. Whether or not I watch the whole thing remains to be seen. I don't think the family would agree if they weren't comfortable. I agree with whomever said they probably want it out of the way.

On the View today they were talking about Bill O'Reilly. I didn't see his show, only what they said on the View. I don't think anyone can put themselves into someone's shoes and make claims like that. I know, I'm just shocked by all of this. This aparment is in a heavily populated area smack dab in the middle of metro St. Louis. He played outside, he talked with neighbors, he had friends over. I don't get how that can happen. I truly don't get it. But, it didn't happen to me. So I make no judgements.
 
I thought it was very well done. Tender and thoughtful....

Bill O'Reilly is a loon....the kid was 11 yrs old....he was terrified...
 
Yes, I thought it was too soon. I was uncomfortable and turned the tv off.

:sad2: This guy doesn't roll his eyes enough to express my opinion of Bill O'Reilly. Until he is a scared 11 yo kid being held against his will, until he goes through the pshychological torment of this kid, then he can keep his ideas about stockholm syndrome to himself. The last thing this poor boy needs is to have a bunch of outsiders second guessing what he went through.


He's just being himself. I expected nothing better from him. As for the show, I do think the family wanted to do a high profile viewed (like Oprah) show and get it over with. Shawn himself said he now wants time to spend with his family. More power to him and I hope the media will leave him (and both families for that matter) alone and quit speculating.
 
Well, Oprah always does a great job at these types of shows...

If "you" think it was too soon, then like you said, you can choose to not watch. The family obviously was ok with doing the show.. and that's all that REALLY matters.. right? They must have wanted to do it for a reason..
 
I think it is terrible and I think it is a sad reflection on society that we now have all our major news networks reporting to us every 24 minutes "Parents think he was "probably" sexually molested but he hasn't revealed the details yet." I have no doubt that he probably did suffer something horrid, but that story is HIS to reveal when and if HE feels like it.

I think that 5 years from now, when those kids are adults and have had plenty of therapy, if they then decide they want to take their story on Oprah -- good for them. Until then --- it just SICKENS me like I can't even describe.

Don't even get me started on how I feel about seeing Elizabeth Smart's Dad on the TV every morning now hawking home security systems.
 
Elizabeth Smart's Dad on the TV every morning now hawking home security systems.

Is he really!?! I haven't followed this particular case closely, but it seems like folks really jump on their 15 minutes of fame more nowadays. Like the runaway bride thing in Georgia. Press conferences, family spokesmen, etc. It all seems unnatural and insincere. Not saying that's the case here, but if my I'd just found my son after 4 years of who-knows-what, Oprah would be the last thing on my mind...unless she offered to foot the bill for the therapy. then I'd consider doing the show.
 
I think it is terrible and I think it is a sad reflection on society that we now have all our major news networks reporting to us every 24 minutes "Parents think he was "probably" sexually molested but he hasn't revealed the details yet." I have no doubt that he probably did suffer something horrid, but that story is HIS to reveal when and if HE feels like it.

I think that 5 years from now, when those kids are adults and have had plenty of therapy, if they then decide they want to take their story on Oprah -- good for them. Until then --- it just SICKENS me like I can't even describe.

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It is not like the story is going to go away. The creep will have a public trial, covered by the media and all of the things that these kids endured will come out. Up until that trial there will be speculation, etc. I thought that this was a good way to respond to the media, the public and then enable the boys to pull back for a while. It was tasteful and not pushy. The younger boy did not appear.
 
Maybe the families thought one interview would get the media off their backs.
I can't think of a more crediable person than Oprah to do it.
 
I watched Oprah and saw both sets of parents, the officers who spotted the vehicle in the parking lot of the apartment building, but nothing about the teenage boy who got the full description of the truck that caused both boys to be found.

Does anyone know why they didn't have that truck description boy on, too? I hope he gets some sort of reward.
 
It is not like the story is going to go away. The creep will have a public trial, covered by the media and all of the things that these kids endured will come out. Up until that trial there will be speculation, etc. I thought that this was a good way to respond to the media, the public and then enable the boys to pull back for a while. It was tasteful and not pushy. The younger boy did not appear.

exactly. it really wasn't a sickening interview. it was very respectfully done. and the parents of ben made a decision, sounded last minute, not to have him come out, that he had had enough of the media and needed a break from it, and again, it sounded to me like oprah and her staff respected that.

I was happy to see the cops that noticed the white truck there. you could tell the families were very, very happy to see them.
 












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