to see the world quickly how to do it

[ihatedisneyworld]

We just got back from wdw. this is my report on the negative and how to I am going to get around the world next time and circumvent the lines, fast passes and general behavior. This is not meant to sound like it does but be a parody of my observations.

1st. Travel in a large pack. This works to your advantage as you will see further down.

2nd. Gain about 500lbs or come up with a "believable" illness where by you cant get around that well. The 500lbs works best because you won't feel so guilty as people stare at you like i did wondering what the hell was wrong with you because you obviously could stand and walk to the ride after you cut the line.

3rd. RENT A SCOOTER RENT A SCOOTER or wheel chair. You are going to need this. It is most important because you can get away quicker as the rest of the line glares at you.

4th. SPEAK IN A FORIEGN LANGUAGE. If you don't know a language speak in tongues or piglatin. Southern drawls don't cut it either as do Bahston accents. These aren't foriegn languages.

5th. Take you and your pack to the handicap access line and cut in front of all of us. SEE SPEAKING A FORIEGN LANGUAGE< USING A SCOOTER< AND GAINING 500LBS OR HAVE A FAKE DISABILITY ARE THE QUICKEST AND BEST WAYS TO SEE THE PARK IN UNDER AN HOUR.

 

[lostinwonderland]

We just got back from wdw. this is my report on the negative and how to I am going to get around the world next time and circumvent the lines, fast passes and general behavior. This is not meant to sound like it does but be a parody of my observations..

You come on here, a disney forum, with the name 'ihatedisneyworld', I just don't see the point. You know what you're going to say is going to spark anger, in this case, I think it would've been better to keep these thoughts to yourself. Fair enough you might not like it, but the points were not necessary.

2nd. Gain about 500lbs or come up with a "believable" illness where by you cant get around that well. The 500lbs works best because you won't feel so guilty as people stare at you like i did wondering what the hell was wrong with you because you obviously could stand and walk to the ride after you cut the line.

3rd. RENT A SCOOTER RENT A SCOOTER or wheel chair. You are going to need this. It is most important because you can get away quicker as the rest of the line glares at you.


5th. Take you and your pack to the handicap access line and cut in front of all of us. SEE SPEAKING A FORIEGN LANGUAGE< USING A SCOOTER< AND GAINING 500LBS OR HAVE A FAKE DISABILITY ARE THE QUICKEST AND BEST WAYS TO SEE THE PARK IN UNDER AN HOUR.

What's all this 'fake disability' stuff? I think that's pretty narrow minded.
One of my friends, is terminally ill and disabled, she has a wheel chair, and yes she can walk a few steps but there's no way she'd be able to stand up in a line for an hour. Just because someone walks the last couple of steps does not mean they are not disabled or making it up. It's comments like this that stop my friend and many others in her situation from going out.

You do not know those people, or live with them, or see what they face daily, how can you, or anyone judge how disabled they are.

I've tried to be polite as possible in response to this thread, but felt that I needed to respond because of the comments made.

 

[ihatedisneyworld]

i know that and you are right. I am sorry for sounding so angry but was obviously apparent in many cases this is what is going on. I watched 4 or 5 families change people (drivers) in the scooters outside before going on rides then after leaving change again.

I don't wish any harm to those who legitamatley need help or deserve help and would never discourage anyone who is in need of services from getting them. I was just venting on that element of society who is abusing the system.

I knew this would come across as sounding like sour grapes. Believe me we had a great time and met some great people.

 

[SueM in MN]

i did wondering what the hell was wrong with you because you obviously could stand and walk to the ride after you cut the line.

3rd. RENT A SCOOTER RENT A SCOOTER or wheel chair. You are going to need this. It is most important because you can get away quicker as the rest of the line glares at you............

5th. Take you and your pack to the handicap access line and cut in front of all of us.

That is a common misconception, but it's not true.
People using wheelchairs or ECVs don't get out of waiting in line.
Most of the lines at WDW are wheelchair accessible, so there are very few situations where someone actually goes thru a wheelchair entrance. In most cases, they wait in the same line with everyone else. For a very few attractions, there is an alternate entrace because the regular one isn't accessible and was not able to be made accessible (most in MK or Epcot since they were built before accessibility was thought of). There are some others, where the boarding area is not accessible and wheelchair/ECV users wait in the regular or Fastpass line and then are pulled into a different area for loading (Buzz Lightyear, Haunted Mansion and Splash Mountain are examples).

One of the other things that people who don't use wheelchairs don't know is where people with wheelchairs go when they are taken out of the line. They assume those people who 'disappear' from the line are boarding right away, but that is not usually the case.
If they can't board at the regular boarding spot, they are pulled out of the line - usually just before the regular line gets to the boarding area (so they have already waited as long as everyone that got in the line the same time as they did).
For example, at Buzz Lightyear, the 'pull off point' is after you have gone thru the room with the large Buzz Lightyear, near the point where regular line is beginning to enter the actual boarding area. Guests with wheelchairs/ ECVs are pulled out of line at that point and sent to the exit - not to board right away, but to wait. If there are too many people with disabilities already on the attraction, you have to wait for some to get off (for fire safetly and evacuation reasons). Because our DD can't get out of her wheelchair easily, we have to wait extra for a special car that the wheelchair can be loaded on. We usually see the people who were right ahead of us in line getting off after riding while we are still waiting to board. In some rides, boarding at the accessible area means you miss part of the attraction; for example, at Haunted Mansion, you miss the entire 'stretching room' part of the attraction.

The Safari at AK is notorious for extra waits for people with disabilities. Our longest wait there was an EXTRA 40 minutes at a time when the regular line was walk on and Safari Trams were pulling out partially loaded because people were not walking up fast enough to fill them.

Spaceship Earth is a ride with a handicapped entrance, but during times when other passengers are able to walk right on, our wait is usually 20-30 minutes.

AK and the Studio were built with what are called 'Mainstream Lines'. These are lines where the regular line is wheelchair/ECV accessible and a person using a wheelchair or ECV waits in the same line with everyone else.
Epcot an MK are older and not all lines are Mainstream, but as attractions were added or renovated, they added Mainstream Access where ever possible.

Here's what it says in the official WDW Guidebook for Guests with Disabilities about Mainstream Lines and the list of attractions with Mainstream Queues:
As you can see, most of the lines are Mainstream Queues:

Magic Kingdom® Park
Ariel's Grotto
Astro Orbiter
Buzz Lightyear's Space Ranger Spin
Donald's Boat
Judge's Tent
Mickey's Country House
Mickey's PhilharMagic
Mike Fink Keelboats (seasonal)
Minnie's Country House
Pirates of the Caribbean
Space Mountain®
Splash Mountain®
Stitch's Great Escape!™
The Barnstormer at Goofy's Wiseacres Farm
"The Enchanted Tiki Room Under New Management"
The Hall of Presidents
The Magic Carpets of Aladdin
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Tomorrowland® Indy Speedway
Toontown Hall of Fame
Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress (seasonal)

Epcot®
FUTURE WORLD
Imagination!: All Attractions
Innoventions East
Innoventions West
Mission: SPACE
Test Track
The Living Seas: All Attractions
The Land: All Attractions
Universe of Energy: "Ellen's Energy Adventure"
Wonders of Life: All Attractions (seasonal)

WORLD SHOWCASE
China: "Reflections of China"
France: "Impressions de France"
FriendShip Boats
Norway: Maelstrom
The American Adventure: "The American Adventure"

Disney-MGM Studios
Disney-MGM Studios Backlot Tour
Fantasmic!
Lights, Motors, Action!™ Extreme Stunt Show
Muppet*Vision 3D
Playhouse Disney - Live On Stage!
Rock 'n' Roller Coaster® Starring Aerosmith
Sounds Dangerous - Starring Drew Carey
Star Tours
The Great Movie Ride
The Magic of Disney Animation
"The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror™"
Voyage of the Little Mermaid
Walt Disney: One Man's Dream
Who Wants To Be A Millionaire - Play It!

Disney's Animal Kingdom® Theme Park
Caravan Stage: "Flights of Wonder"
DINOSAUR
Grandmother Willow's Grove: "Pocahontas and Her forest friends"
It's Tough To Be A Bug
Kali River Rapids
Kilimanjaro Safaris
Lion King Theater: "Festival of the Lion King"
Maharajah Jungle Trek
Primeval Whirl
Theater in the Wild: "Tarzan Rocks!"
The Boneyard
TriceraTop Spin

I wanted to add that Soarin', EE, the new Nemo ride at the Living Seas and the Laugh company at MK are missing from the list. They are Mainstream Access.
And, some attractions have limited number of spots for wheelchairs. We have already shown up for shows where there was still room for ambulatory people, but the wheelchair spots were already filled for that show and we had to wait for the next one (Voyage of the Little Mermaid, where we had Fastpasses; and ITTBAB, where the CMs were practically begging people to come into the queue because there was no wait in the standby line.

I watched 4 or 5 families change people (drivers) in the scooters outside before going on rides then after leaving change again.

There are people who share an ECV because several have a need for one, but also need to alternate sitting and walking to avoid getting stiff.
Also, because of the expense (an extra $30-35 pers day for each ECV), many people rent one and share it between several people.

 

[jharrowell]

I'm not going to freak over this post as even I've felt that some people were playing the system, but I can definately say you can never be sure if a person needs the help.

I have an issue with my knee that means it sometimes causes incredible pain and sometimes even bends the wrong way (you really don't want to see my stalk impression *shudder*)

So sometimes I can just keep going, and sometimes I'll be lucky to last 10 minutes before I'm useless for the day.

Because of this I usually get a guest assistance card and I use it as much as possible (I used to not use it when I felt good, but a lost day at MK when my leg gave out on me waiting in standby stopped that), because I might be good now, but in 10 mins I could be unable to walk.

Now I do use a cane but I probably don't look "disabled" as far as people are concerned and I'm sure some people think I'm mooching the system, but as I said before, you never know.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents.

 

[Reenybean]

Good thing I like to take my time and enjoy things.
1. can't hide the Boston accent so the foreign language thing is out
2. still trying to lose the last 15 lb from sam so gaining 500 is out of the question.
3 I spent 8 months on crutches once, not going back there, not even for a shorter line.
4. I have also seen too many people take advantage of situations meant specifically for the handicapped-- parking spaces, etc. and it really ticks me off so I turn them in so that those who really do need the service can use it. Keep in mind that not all "handicaps" are visable to the naked eye. Oh, technically I am handicapped but I have learned to function around or with it so you will never ever know what my handicap is.... be careful not to judge too quickly because that is when you usually get it wrong.