Titanic movie question

[Buzz Rules]

Okay, since we're now referencing other Titanic movies, how many here have seen "Raise the Titanic"? It was based on the Clive Cussler novel.

You have to remember that this was made before the actual ship was found. So, you have to suspend disbelief when you watch it nowadays.

It doesn't get shown on TV very often. I had my Tivo set to auto-record and it took a couple of years before it was shown.

I didn’t think it was a bad movie to be honest.

 

[Imzadi]

If Rose's mother didn't recognize Rose's name on the survivor lists, you'd think she would have recognized her when Rose's work as an actress started making the rounds. Not sure if Rose was a stage actress or a movie actress, but if Rose's mother ever saw a photo of her she would have known who she was instantly.

Even a stage actress at that time would have some photographic evidence. While her mother remarrying to a rich widower makes complete sense, I can’t imagine her not knowing her daughter was alive.

I think both of you are looking through the lens of how we get news today, the massive amount of news available, and how many women are interested in world events. There was no television back then with the nightly news. Say, she was able to marry some rich guy and they lived in Connecticut. One of the few ways she'd see what was going on elsewhere in the world was by reading the newspaper. I doubt that many rich, 'ladies of leisure' bothered to read newspapers back then. If you ever watched Downton Abbey, which took place approximately 15 years later, Lord Grantham was the one reading the morning paper and he'd tell everyone anything news-worthy.

In one of the photos Rose had, she was in front of the Santa Monica pier ferris wheel. So, she had at least, made it to the west coast. If she was doing theatre out there, it would be even less likely that that would make the papers in CT or the east coast. If she had done some films, maybe her mother did see her. But, perhaps she decided it fit her own "poor me" narrative to continue to say only she survived. Being related to an actress might not be seemly.

 

[mamamia2005]

Also, if Rose's mother did get a pay out from White Star Line for the death of her daughter, I think she was so money orientated even if she bumped into her in the street she wouldn't have admitted knowing her, fearing she would have to return the pay out.
I would also guess that she "dined out" on "my poor daughter died on the Titanic" and milked it for all its worth.

 

[Imzadi]

Also, if Rose's mother did get a pay out from White Star Line for the death of her daughter, I think she was so money orientated even if she bumped into her in the street she wouldn't have admitted knowing her, fearing she would have to return the pay out.
I would also guess that she "dined out" on "my poor daughter died on the Titanic" and milked it for all its worth.

Yes! I can see that scenario. Rose is in a traveling theatre troupe. Rose's mother's husband is a huge patron and one of the main benefactors in their town's little theatre, probably New Canaan, CT, paying and bringing in these traveling theatre troupes to their theatre.

Naturally, the benefactors all get to meet the cast at the end of the show. (Much the way we see a cast being introduced to Queen Elizabeth and the royal family at a premiere.) The cast goes down a line to meet the benefactors. Rose's mother's husband is standing first. He's chatting with Rose about her wonderful performance. "Let me introduce you to my wife," he turns to introduce her.

Rose's mother has been standing slightly behind him, unseen. She steps forward, with a steely look in her eyes, as she says, "Nice to meet you for the first time," the look conveying go along with her.

Rose is stunned into silence at seeing her.

Meanwhile the husband is confused. "First time?"

Rose's mother, "Yes, I only meant how interesting and exciting it must be to be an actress that gets to travel from town to town, staying by herself in different hotels night to night, then off to the next town, meeting new. . .people. I hope Rose, you will think about what it would mean to me to have you come here and we meet again." Meanwhile her inference is quite clear to Rose, that she does NOT want her dead daughter to miraculously be alive, and to be known as the mother of an unchaperoned, single woman, worse, a "loose actress" who likely goes from town to town, possibly entertaining different gentleman fans in her hotel rooms each night. And if she thinks about coming there again - DON'T.

Rose, for the second time in her life, is firmly committed to keeping the ties to her old life severed, also pretends they don't know each other.

 

[BroadwayHermione5]

I think both of you are looking through the lens of how we get news today, the massive amount of news available, and how many women are interested in world events. There was no television back then with the nightly news. Say, she was able to marry some rich guy and they lived in Connecticut. One of the few ways she'd see what was going on elsewhere in the world was by reading the newspaper. I doubt that many rich, 'ladies of leisure' bothered to read newspapers back then. If you ever watched Downton Abbey, which took place approximately 15 years later, Lord Grantham was the one reading the morning paper and he'd tell everyone anything news-worthy.

In one of the photos Rose had, she was in front of the Santa Monica pier ferris wheel. So, she had at least, made it to the west coast. If she was doing theatre out there, it would be even less likely that that would make the papers in CT or the east coast. If she had done some films, maybe her mother did see her. But, perhaps she decided it fit her own "poor me" narrative to continue to say only she survived. Being related to an actress might not be seemly.

Oh her mother definitely would've played the poor me if she knew her daughter was still alive.

I sadly never watched Dowton Abbey so I wouldnt have known that but I can totally see that being her situation.

 

[fla4fun]

I didn’t think it was a bad movie to be honest.

Neither did I. I mean, the special effects were a little dodgy, compared to today‘s capabilities, but as a fictional story and for the time the story was written, it was okay. I loved the score though. I have been looking for a copy on CD for ages.

I think I have seen every Titanic movie and miniseries produced since Titanic with a young Robert Wagner, and I really don’t think anyone captured the ship itself in all its glory like James Cameron. I would have preferred to leave the fictional characters out of it, but I understand that’s a good way for the viewer to put themselves into the story.

 

[kymom99]

One of Danielle Steeler’s books is set on the titanic. Reading it made me interested in learning more about it.