Tipping suggestion on receipt

[MillauFr]

Hire foreign staff at ridiculously low wages for a set period of time? No. I’m pretty certain US workers are treated far better.

I got to know both of my Disney Cruise waiters. One in particular was not happy with her contract. She wanted to return home once it was over.

Cruise workers are overworked and underpaid. And most are from foreign countries with even worse working standards.

This is all very depressing.

I was referring to tipping not labor relations

 

[3 MEN AND A BOAT]

Wine is the same way.

Exactly, why should I tip Zero to have a glass of water brought to my table since it’s free in most places but I’m expected to tip $1-2 for a glass of wine simply because it cost more.
ETA- I generally tip per item brought out,I start out at a basic $2 per person at the table, then add another dollar for anything extra I order beyond my main meal and a drink(usually water). Example a beer, extra dollar, a dessert, extra dollar, etc. This seems more fair to me.

 

[disneychrista]

Exactly, why should I tip Zero to have a glass of water brought to my table since it’s free in most places but I’m expected to tip $1-2 for a glass of wine simply because it cost more.
ETA- I generally tip per item brought out,I start out at a basic $2 per person at the table, then add another dollar for anything extra I order beyond my main meal and a drink(usually water). Example a beer, extra dollar, a dessert, extra dollar, etc. This seems more fair to me.

Be warned I said pretty much the exact same thing and I got called cheap.

 

[3 MEN AND A BOAT]

Be warned I said pretty much the exact same thing and I got called cheap.

I am cheap, I work hard for my money and I’m not giving it away on some fantasy that I should tip according to the price of the item I order.
Fried chicken or fried oysters take the same effort to cook, plate, and deliver to my table. The reason they’re priced different on the menu has nothing to do with the waitress.

 

[Hikergirl]

That doesn’t make it right.

Doesn't make what right- a company paying a person what they agree to work for?
They have no moral obligation to make sure you are paid enough to do XYZ, they offer you a job at a specific rate of pay or salary, offer benefits or not and the employee agrees to that.
If they aren't happy, then they shouldn't agree and they should find a job they are happy with.

 

[morgan98]

Doesn't make what right- a company paying a person what they agree to work for?
They have no moral obligation to make sure you are paid enough to do XYZ, they offer you a job at a specific rate of pay or salary, offer benefits or not and the employee agrees to that.
If they aren't happy, then they shouldn't agree and they should find a job they are happy with.

I am generally a good tipper, but I definitely am not onboard with tip jars appearing everywhere and all sorts of people expecting to be tipped...movers, furniture delivery guys, maids at hotels, landscapers, the list goes on and on. There are occupations that expect tips now that most definitely did not 10-15 years ago.

I understand that some of these jobs are not the highest paid, but I do not think it is my responsibility to try to determine who is being paid "fairly" and give them some cash to make up for this perceived inequity. They are working for a wage they agreed to, if they are not happy they should try to find another job - just like I have done if I feel like I am not getting a fair deal.

 

[disneychrista]

I am cheap, I work hard for my money and I’m not giving it away on some fantasy that I should tip according to the price of the item I order.
Fried chicken or fried oysters take the same effort to cook, plate, and deliver to my table. The reason they’re priced different on the menu has nothing to do with the waitress.

Oh I completely agree with you and while I'm frugal which is different than being cheap, I agree 100% that what I choose to order has no bearing on how much work it is for the server.

 

[LSUmiss]

I am cheap, I work hard for my money and I’m not giving it away on some fantasy that I should tip according to the price of the item I order.
Fried chicken or fried oysters take the same effort to cook, plate, and deliver to my table. The reason they’re priced different on the menu has nothing to do with the waitress.

Then why not save even more $ & not eat out?

I would say the tip is calculated based on overall cost of the meal b/c the more you order the more the server has to do. Sometimes it’s b/c of the price of the food itself. But that’s where it gets ridiculous to me. If the chicken is $10 less than the oysters & you tip 18% then you’re haggling over $1.80.

 

[RamblingMad]

Doesn't make what right- a company paying a person what they agree to work for?
They have no moral obligation to make sure you are paid enough to do XYZ, they offer you a job at a specific rate of pay or salary, offer benefits or not and the employee agrees to that.
If they aren't happy, then they shouldn't agree and they should find a job they are happy with.

This is easy to say until your job is off shored or automated away. I have done this a lot in my career. I can find much cheaper resources abroad. Very few jobs are safe from this.

I think, there should be some obligation to pay a living wage because it’s super easy to hire foreign talent for cheap.

 

[LSUmiss]

I am generally a good tipper, but I definitely am not onboard with tip jars appearing everywhere and all sorts of people expecting to be tipped...movers, furniture delivery guys, maids at hotels, landscapers, the list goes on and on. There are occupations that expect tips now that most definitely did not 10-15 years ago.

I understand that some of these jobs are not the highest paid, but I do not think it is my responsibility to try to determine who is being paid "fairly" and give them some cash to make up for this perceived inequity. They are working for a wage they agreed to, if they are not happy they should try to find another job - just like I have done if I feel like I am not getting a fair deal.

While I agree with you about this, I also think you get what you pay for. Ex whenever we tip maid service, we get much better service. Should it be that way? No. But, it what it is. Without it, we usually get adequate service. But, when we tip, we get something above & beyond. That’s worth a few bucks to me. On the other hand, I always ignore a tip jar. I rarely have any cash anyway.

 

[LSUmiss]

Doesn't make what right- a company paying a person what they agree to work for?
They have no moral obligation to make sure you are paid enough to do XYZ, they offer you a job at a specific rate of pay or salary, offer benefits or not and the employee agrees to that.
If they aren't happy, then they shouldn't agree and they should find a job they are happy with.

Maybe, but not if they’re seeking out vulnerable populations to exploit. Have you never started a job & found out things aren’t really the way they made it seem when you were recruited? I have & immediately began seeking other work. But, I am a non-contracted, college-educated, licensed professional with options & resources. Other ppl may end up somewhat trapped & maybe even intimidated by the contract aspect.

 

[disneychrista]

you’re haggling over $1.80.

Yes but the server didn't give me that $1.80 MORE in service because I ordered the more expensive item.

I honestly believe the per item method is a much better way to figure the tip. If you feel you want to give more then start at $5 entree plus $1 for each item. In the end you can not convince me that % is a better method.

 

[MillauFr]

Be warned I said pretty much the exact same thing and I got called cheap.

Isn't that a compliment? I always say thank you when someone calls me cheap. Now loser cheap that is another story.

 

[disneychrista]

Isn't that a compliment? I always say thank you when someone calls me cheap. Now loser cheap that is another story.

I prefer frugal.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

Maybe, but not if they’re seeking out vulnerable populations to exploit. Have you never started a job & found out things aren’t really the way they made it seem when you were recruited? I have & immediately began seeking other work. But, I am a non-contracted, college-educated, licensed professional with options & resources. Other ppl may end up somewhat trapped & maybe even intimidated by the contract aspect.

I've never had a job that matched up with the job description lol.

I can't remember what my call center insurance company job description was but it sure was a lot more pleasant sounding than what I had to deal with everyday for 8hours

 

[Hikergirl]

Maybe, but not if they’re seeking out vulnerable populations to exploit. Have you never started a job & found out things aren’t really the way they made it seem when you were recruited? I have & immediately began seeking other work. But, I am a non-contracted, college-educated, licensed professional with options & resources. Other ppl may end up somewhat trapped & maybe even intimidated by the contract aspect.

Well I happen to believe in personal responsibility for everyone. If someone feels trapped then it is up to them to change that. If they are intimidated then it is up to the to change that.
If they don't, and they agree to a job then it is on them. As I see it an employer seeks out people who will do the agreed work for the agreed pay. As long as that is all done legally then they aren't in the wrong.

 

[LSUmiss]

I've never had a job that matched up with the job description lol.

I can't remember what my call center insurance company job description was but it sure was a lot more pleasant sounding than what I had to deal with everyday for 8hours

I have only had 2 that I can think of that were egregiously different as far as hours & job duties than what was promised in the interview. One was waaay different & they pretty much straight up lied. So I worked there for only 3 mos. The other was not that bad (at first) but kept getting get worse so that one I only worked for about 18 mos.

 

[LSUmiss]

Well I happen to believe in personal responsibility for everyone. If someone feels trapped then it is up to them to change that. If they are intimidated then it is up to the to change that.
If they don't, and they agree to a job then it is on them. As I see it an employer seeks out people who will do the agreed work for the agreed pay. As long as that is all done legally then they aren't in the wrong.

So there are no vulnerable populations that get exploited especially when recruited from poorer foreign countries? Not the same level, but that’s like telling an abuse victim to take personal responsibility for allowing herself to be abused. It’s much much more complicated than that.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I have only had 2 that I can think of that were egregiously different as far as hours & job duties than what was promised in the interview. One was waaay different & they pretty much straight up lied. So I worked there for only 3 mos. The other was not that bad (at first) but kept getting get worse so that one I only worked for about 18 mos.

There's always been some things that were never presented in the job description or came about later on. Some bothered me more than others. Most times job descriptions were flattering, fluffy sounding than what the actual nitty gritty of the job was.

I also think what I find as a big issue someone else may not or vice versa with the understanding that some things are universally crappy things to do to someone when you're not upfront about it.

 

[Hikergirl]

So there are no vulnerable populations that get exploited especially when recruited from poorer foreign countries? Not the same level, but that’s like telling an abuse victim to take personal responsibility for allowing herself to be abused. It’s much much more complicated than that.

If it's not on the same level then why bring it into a conversation about employees having personal responsibility for agreeing to take a job? We aren't talking about abuse victims. We are talking about people willingly accepting the employment terms. Those people are 100% responsible for their choice to do that.
You can either agree with that statement or not, no need to make ridiculous comparisons.
If you respond, don't expect an answer, I'm way too tired to engage in such dramatics.