There was a time when 10% was acceptable, then it wasn't and 15% was the new acceptable. Then 18% was acceptable. Now it's 20%. Tomorrow it will be 22%.
So not only is the tip more because the percentage is higher it is more because the amount you tip on is more too.
Conversely, I can only recall a handful of times a server came back to the table other than once to ask how the food was usually before anyone had time to take a bite. 90% of the time any more, you have to ration your 10 ounces of ice and 2 ounces of drink during the whole meal because you're not getting any more.
I haven't heard that people say it bothers them when they give examples. I've seen people give examples for poor service that equated to a lower or virtually non-existent tip.
I guess I meant more that here I don’t expect decent service at those places. Here that is one step above fast food & they hire similar personnel & have similar high turnover.I haven't heard that people say it bothers them when they give examples. I've seen people give examples for poor service that equated to a lower or virtually non-existent tip.
I expect, personally speaking, the same type of service at places. We've had poor service from people who have worked at a place for many years-often it's because they've worked for many years that they become at the end of their rope, sometimes the environment has soured too. We've received great service from new employees too.
But alas I guess utopias do exist
Suggested can be helpful to some people when they know what they are paying for.
Eating at those style of places it's still dependent on individual servers. I've been to some ritzy and some very very local places with straight up terrible servers. Like I said though maybe utopias do exist where there's just never or rarely bad service at those *better* places.
I’m sure there are nice places with terrible service. We eat at some of the same places regularly b/c of the quality of the food & service. They’re not fancy or expensive. We try to stay away from places with notoriously bad service & here that’s chili’s, outback, & similar chains.
Well I understand avoiding places that you've found to have bad service, we do that too but 1) we have to have gone there to be able to determine that it has poor and consistently poor service 2) we don't avoid by style of place like it appears you do, we may avoid this particular Steak 'N Shake location for a while if we've noticed bad service or we know Chili's can have slow service (not necessarily poor just slow) but we don't discount all places. Maybe a difference is in my case some of it is down to location specific. Like a location in X area of my metro may have poorer service than Y area of my metro.
I visited Australia once and eating out was such a pleasant experience. I never had bad service (and we ate out nearly every meal)- everyone was so friendly and helpful. So whenever I hear the suggestion that without tipping we’d get worse service, I think about how that person must have never eaten outside of the US.
I actually tend to agree that service is a little better in Australia than here. But I think that may be cultural differences.
Most servers here are very attentive. If my water glass gets down to half full, someone is filling it up. We never eat at chain restaurants, all independent. Maybe it’s the $2.13 minimum wage...
Does that two week check include the tips? Officially, employers are supposed to cover up to the minimum wage if the tipped employee is not making minimum wage with tips. (In practice, many people are fearful of losing their jobs if they complain.)
This has been our experience here too with the exception of a few places that we stay away from.
