tipping on DDP???

[MasterShake]

I also leave whatever it takes to bring the tip to 20% and I don't care if anyone thinks it's 'silly'. I'm sure the waiter appreciates it.

So if by some reason you are eating alone, do you leave the $0.40 to make it an even 20%?

Not saying that anyone is going to hate an extra dollar, but it does seem a little silly to get an all inclusive dining plan and then pay just that tiny bit more. Reminds me of being a kid and having your grandma give you a nickel for no reason. Sure money is always nice, but it seems silly to make such a production for a nickel.

My guess is that most of the waiters/waitresses who work anything close to full time probably make 40,000-60,000 a year. That would put them in the middle class bracket for income, based on my figures below:

3 Tables per hour x Average Tip of 12.50 (18%) x 32 hours a week x 48 weeks a year (Month off for vacations) = $57,600 in tips.

$57,600 - 15% (Taxes) = $48,960

Not sure how it is a Disney World, but I believe that Waiters/Waitresses usually make a base salary of around $3 an hour.

$3 x 32 hours x 48 weeks = $4,608

$4,608 x .15% (taxes) = $3,917

$48,960 + $3,917 = $52,877 (if I made no mistakes on the calculator)

My point is not to say that they deserve less or that they are undeserving of what they make. This is a very difficult job and they earn every penny. My point is that Waitresses/Waiters at Disney World (in most cases) are not paupers.

Leave your $0.80 if it makes you happy, but it really does seem a little silly.

 

[Barbers2005]

So if by some reason you are eating alone, do you leave the $0.40 to make it an even 20%?

Not saying that anyone is going to hate an extra dollar, but it does seem a little silly to get an all inclusive dining plan and then pay just that tiny bit more. Reminds me of being a kid and having your grandma give you a nickel for no reason. Sure money is always nice, but it seems silly to make such a production for a nickel.

My guess is that most of the waiters/waitresses who work anything close to full time probably make 40,000-60,000 a year. That would put them in the middle class bracket for income, based on my figures below:

3 Tables per hour x Average Tip of 12.50 (18%) x 32 hours a week x 48 weeks a year (Month off for vacations) = $57,600 in tips.

$57,600 - 15% (Taxes) = $48,960

Not sure how it is a Disney World, but I believe that Waiters/Waitresses usually make a base salary of around $3 an hour.

$3 x 32 hours x 48 weeks = $4,608

$4,608 x .15% (taxes) = $3,917

$48,960 + $3,917 = $52,877 (if I made no mistakes on the calculator)

My point is not to say that they deserve less or that they are undeserving of what they make. This is a very difficult job and they earn every penny. My point is that Waitresses/Waiters at Disney World (in most cases) are not paupers.

Leave your $0.80 if it makes you happy, but it really does seem a little silly.

Actually, I have a friend that is a waiter in Disney World and he makes closer to $60,000. While he likes that extra money, he does get annoyed when people treat him like he's a lower class person deserving of charity. Tips aren't charity, but I think I know what you are saying.

 

[zaxmom]

I figure the check average is way higher with the DDP then it would be for most families paying out of pocket. And they are not having to work at pushing the add-ons like apps and desserts. 18% seems very fair to me. Of course if it was exceptional I would tip extra, or if we were sharing or they went to the trouble to pack up my dessert to go or something.

 

[k386trl]

I try to tip more than the standard 15%, if service is bad I leave the minimum 15. I will be tipping over the 18% on the dining plan if service is good. I try to do around 25% average, up to 50% if service was exceptional. I appreciate it when waitstaff goes above and beyond to make my meal great.

 

[AnninIowa]

We gave each waiter - except at Boma, when all we got were our drinks well after we started eating and then never saw the server again - an extra $5. Since the wait staff has to "wait" for their tips until their paycheck (rather than getting them right away as they normally would), we just felt it was the nice thing to do.

 

[cvallee]

Its silly to break down someones income and use that as justification to not leave extra money or not bring the tip amount up to 20%. How would you feel if your boss did that? You make enough, no raise for you!!!
Come on, if service is good than there is no reason not to leave the extra amount. It is part of the price of eating dinner out.

 

[klinlin]

Its silly to break down someones income and use that as justification to not leave extra money or not bring the tip amount up to 20%. How would you feel if your boss did that? You make enough, no raise for you!!!
Come on, if service is good than there is no reason not to leave the extra amount. It is part of the price of eating dinner out.

I agree! Estimating how much money a server makes or doesn't make should have nothing to do with leaving a tip. Tips should be based on the quality of service. Any server or bartender I know would be extremely grateful for the extra dollar.

Tip what you want, but these posts with random justifications for not tipping are getting old.

 

[zaxmom]

They are all getting tipped 18% of the check. The industry standard is still 15-20%. With 18% being the average. 15% for pretty bad. I do not think this is a matter of making excuses for not tipping. As for having to wait for it to show up on the paycheck, this probably would have helped me budget when I was waiting tables when I was younger.

If you get great service, sure throw more down. If you expect to have the server wait on you again, throw even more down. If the service was terrible. Oh well, you already gave 18% when you did the DDP.

 

[DiszyDean]

I agree that tips should be based on the quality of service.

What I consider good service:

1. The server is friendly.
2. The server is present before, during and after the meal.
3. Drinks are refilled.
4. Suggestions and information is given on the menu.
5. If you ask for something a little different, sour cream on the side or no onions, they actually write down or remember your request.

Things I would not penalize the server for:

1. Food not prepared properly.
2. Food is late.

If all these things are done, I feel they have earned their 18% tip which is already covered by the DDP. If I feel they go well above and beyond these things, I would be willing to tip a little more. Not to exceed probably 25%. To tip a server up to 50% of the total meal is a little excessive IMO, but to each their own.

This is where I feel there is an advantage for taking the tip out of the DDP. I wish they would let the customer decide the tip and Disney would still cover it up to 18%, but that is another conversation.

Honesty, if some or most of these things are not done, I would not even tip 18% in most instances.

 

[MasterShake]

Listen, generally if I am paying out of pocket I divide the total amount of the bill by 10, double it, and then round up. So generally I tip somewhere between 20%-21%. However, one of the main reasons I get the Dinning Plan is so I do not have to carry around cash or worry about a tip. I leave some cash in the Hotel to tip the maid and that's it.

18% is a decent tip and with the prices at Disney World it equates to more then you would probably tip for the same service at a local restaurant.

The person that mentioned tipping 50% is out of their mind. I know this makes me the bad guy, but 50% is just ridiculous.

So if it makes you sleep better at night tip 25%, 30%, 50%. Maybe soon we will tip more then the meal. Servers work hard, but 18% is a reasonable compensation for their work.

 

[MasterShake]

Its silly to break down someones income and use that as justification to not leave extra money or not bring the tip amount up to 20%. How would you feel if your boss did that? You make enough, no raise for you!!!
Come on, if service is good than there is no reason not to leave the extra amount. It is part of the price of eating dinner out.

First off Waiters/Waitresses get a raises every time a restaurant increases its prices. I know that restaurants in my area have increased prices at least once a year since I can remember.

Secondly, breaking down the income was not to justify giving less, but to prove my point that Servers are well compensated at 18%. The standard tip range is 15%-20%. 18% is well within the standard range. If you really want to get the warm fuzzies at night you should take that $0.80, save it, and at the end of the month send it to a children's charity. Those are the people you should feel obligated to be generious with.

Do you think that tips were always 15%-20% for service? The tipping average has increased over the years.

Tipping is part of the price of eating out and I plan accordingly. Again, if you feel better about adding $0.80 to your tip, then go crazy.

 

[RACHELSMOM1]

Listen, generally if I am paying out of pocket I divide the total amount of the bill by 10, double it, and then round up. So generally I tip somewhere between 20%-21%. However, one of the main reasons I get the Dinning Plan is so I do not have to carry around cash or worry about a tip. I leave some cash in the Hotel to tip the maid and that's it.

18% is a decent tip and with the prices at Disney World it equates to more then you would probably tip for the same service at a local restaurant.

The person that mentioned tipping 50% is out of their mind. I know this makes me the bad guy, but 50% is just ridiculous.

So if it makes you sleep better at night tip 25%, 30%, 50%. Maybe soon we will tip more then the meal. Servers work hard, but 18% is a reasonable compensation for their work.

I am with you on all these points!! You are so right on, here!!

 

[k386trl]

I'm not talking about tipping 50% on every meal, I've had a few wonderful servers who were just so great I tipped about 50%. One was on my birthday, $30 meal and she brought me a cake and hung out with us and was fabulous so yes I left $15. My own personal choice just as your choice is to stick with the 18% on the DDP which I will most likely do as well unless the service was very good then I will throw a few extra bucks down. To each his own right? I don't see why something like this is becoming such a heated topic. Now when people refuse to tip anything, thats ridiculous.

 

[ILVPOOH]

I have never left extra tip money on DDP. The 18% is a good tip. We never require extra service that would warrant leaving extra money. Just bring my food, ask me once how everything is and then bring the check. That's all I need.

 

[WDWCPAlumni]

BTW dont Forget That The 18% Grat is being removed from the packages starting JAN 01/ 2008 The Guests will be responsible to tip the servers what they feel

Thank goodness!!!!!!
Our trip last week the service was so bad! Like nothing I have ever seen at Disney before!!!!
I am guessing that once they know your 18% tip is a given they work less hard.
I am use to having servers work to please you to make sure they like the tip they get.
That is how it should be IMO!!

 

[Barbers2005]

BTW dont Forget That The 18% Grat is being removed from the packages starting JAN 01/ 2008 The Guests will be responsible to tip the servers what they feel

Man, I hate that new policy. Dh and I probably won't use the ddp again after our Dec. trip b/c it isn't as convenient anymore. What's the point of buying an all inclusive plan if you have to bring extra money? I wish they had just raised the cost of the plan if they were hurting for money.

Personally, I usually tip 18% anyways, so the ddp tip is about right. Maybe this makes me a bad person, but I generally don't tip extra for good service. It's not that I'm stingy, I'm just lazy. 18% is easy to figure- double the sales tax and round up.

 

[momocay]

It is my guess that if the servers are working "less hard", they would be out of a job. 18% is a normal tip. If a server goes above and beyond for you, it is customary to add more to that. No matter how much these servers make nightly or annualy, tips should be based on the service provided. Personally I think that everyone should try this job once in their life. I did it through college and can definately appreciate what the job entails. As for calculating the expenses, you forgot to add the parties that are comprised mostly of children, at 7.50 a meal. Clearly, the average tip decreases.

 

[RACHELSMOM1]

Man, I hate that new policy. Dh and I probably won't use the ddp again after our Dec. trip b/c it isn't as convenient anymore. What's the point of buying an all inclusive plan if you have to bring extra money? I wish they had just raised the cost of the plan if they were hurting for money.

Personally, I usually tip about 18% anyways, so the ddp tip is about right. Maybe this makes me a bad person, but I generally don't tip extra for good service. It's not that I'm stingy, I'm just lazy. 18% is easy to figure- double the sales tax and round up.

The "no tip included policy" is not a Disney policy. It is, however, being touted as truth by some people. It is only heresay at this point. I hope we all remember that until Disney adopts this policy, it is rumour and heresay, and nothing to be alarmed about.

 

[Scornelius]

I try to tip more than the standard 15%, if service is bad I leave the minimum 15. I will be tipping over the 18% on the dining plan if service is good. I try to do around 25% average, up to 50% if service was exceptional. I appreciate it when waitstaff goes above and beyond to make my meal great.

Ok, I am a very generous tipper. Just this evening I tipped $15 on a $40 meal because the waitress was stupendous. Funny, quick, friendly, completely knowlegeble about everything on the menu - you couldn't have asked for a better server. At WDW, we always bring a stack of $5 and $10 for extra tipping when on the DDP. At home, min. 20% for good service. But I would NEVER, EVER (EVER!) tip 15% on bad service. Ever. (IMHO) If someone does a crappy job, they shouldn't get a bonus, and certainly wont get one from me.

Whenever I've encounetered a situation like this (all 2 times I've felt the service was bad enough to warrant it), I've left a note on the back of the bill telling the server exactly how they blew their chance at a tip. This is based soley on their performance. If there's a problem with my food or what have you, that's not the server's fault, and it doesn't influence the tip at all. But if they're rude or give horrible service, they can go pound sand.

 

[Mackey Mouse]

The "no tip included policy" is not a Disney policy. It is, however, being touted as truth by some people. It is only heresay at this point. I hope we all remember that until Disney adopts this policy, it is rumour and heresay, and nothing to be alarmed about.
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Thanks to the previous poster who posted this.....the moderators of this board have been saying this since we first started hearing this.. Until Disney formally announces this, it is in fact rumour....