Tipping in restaurants

strawberry tink said:
Poor service = No tip!
Poor service = a talk with management to correct the problem. Suffering through poor service to save a few dollars or to "punish" someone is just stupid.
Mediocre service = 15% tip to the penny (have done this only once).
Good to excellent service gets a good to excellent tip.
Taking up at table for an evening gets a tip about equal to the check if you keep ordering; taking up at table for the evening and not ordering gets you not welcome in the future ;)
 
Then one would think the waitstaff would keep that in mind when performing their job.

My cost of vacation is moot. tipping is a reward for providing a service. I base the tip on the quality of my service not the cost of my vacation.

If you deliver lousy service than you get nothing from me except a complaint to the manager of a restaurant.
mediocre service, where you simply bring the food, without checking to see if any thing else is needed, refill drink orders or the order is screwed up will get 10% max.
Standard service. You introduce yourself, smile, ask how I am doing etc etc will get you 15-18%
Oustanding service will get you 20% or more.

Sorry that you are in a low wage earning occupation. Your choice not mine, nor do I feel the need to make up for your employers short comings.

Tipping is not a fudemental right. It must be earned.

I have seen this opinion expressed more than once and I totally disagree with it. I don't even consider that the tip is a "reward" for good service. It is part of that person's paycheck. And I would never eat at a restaurant and fail to give a minimum of a 15% tip -- and almost always 20%.

Have you ever gone to work and just not felt up to being there? Do you give 150% every single day that you go to work? What if you boss said, we I think you only gave 70% today, so I am only going to give you 70% of your paycheck today.
 
Then one would think the waitstaff would keep that in mind when performing their job.

My cost of vacation is moot. tipping is a reward for providing a service. I base the tip on the quality of my service not the cost of my vacation.

Sorry that you are in a low wage earning occupation. Your choice not mine, nor do I feel the need to make up for your employers short comings.

Tipping is not a fudamental right. It must be earned.

I agree... Just because my dinner cost $100 (or whatever) does not mean you should get $20+. I refuse to tip if the service was bad, I do not care what is going on, you want money from me treat me well..
 
I have seen this opinion expressed more than once and I totally disagree with it. I don't even consider that the tip is a "reward" for good service. It is part of that person's paycheck. And I would never eat at a restaurant and fail to give a minimum of a 15% tip -- and almost always 20%.

Have you ever gone to work and just not felt up to being there? Do you give 150% every single day that you go to work? What if you boss said, we I think you only gave 70% today, so I am only going to give you 70% of your paycheck today
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I think you may be confusing TIP with WAGE. Just because it is calculated into their check to make them get minimum wage does not me they are entitled to my money for poor service. On the other side, how many servers actually report 100% of their tips...

I know their wage is very low, usually a few dollars, but they also have the ability to make a couple hundred a night.

If I come in and bust my butt, I still make the same as when I barely do any work. And I do my job the same amount/way/dedication every day.
 

I wish people would stop saying this like it is true for the entire US. There are states in which servers are paid minimum wage. Servers aren't getting shafted like that everywhere. Any time I go to a restaurant my server is guaranteed $8.00 before tips.
Okay, I agree with you, but the opposite is also true--people need to realize that in many states, servers, even to-go, are NOT paid minimum wage. My boyfriend is a takeaway (curbside) server at Outback and he makes $3.25/hr. This is after a recent raise. We live in Georgia.
 
I agree... Just because my dinner cost $100 (or whatever) does not mean you should get $20+. I refuse to tip if the service was bad, I do not care what is going on, you want money from me treat me well..
And again, why sit and suffer through bad service simply to 'justify' leaving a lower than your normal, or no, tip? Get the service problem(s) fixed while they're occurring. Also, I think most people posting in or reading this thread already know but - don't confuse bad food with bad service.
 
Poor service = a talk with management to correct the problem. Suffering through poor service to save a few dollars or to "punish" someone is just stupid.
Mediocre service = 15% tip to the penny (have done this only once).
Good to excellent service gets a good to excellent tip.
Taking up at table for an evening gets a tip about equal to the check if you keep ordering; taking up at table for the evening and not ordering gets you not welcome in the future ;)

I haven't read through all the posts but this is how we tip. If service is really poor we would ask to speak to a manager. We eat out a lot, mostly at upscale restaurants, and we would never tip less than 20% unless there was a specific issue. We often tip more. I'm not sure about state differences, but here the server may be supporting a family. Really good servers may spend their lifetime at one restaurant. I know they're making good money and I believe they deserve it. He and I might make comparable salaries...but I am out dining with my family and he is working. Restaurant hours s**k, and do not promote family life.
 
WHY do you say that? Customers make service good or bad by the WAY they tip. If everyone had an automatic service charge of 20%(let's say it was a rule that a customer couldn't tip anymore than that, let's say, but they would HAVE to be required to pay that 20% service charge no matter how bad the service is), that service wouldn't be as good as it sometimes is, because there's not incentive to do better. What reason would they care if the food was right or if you were happy if they would know the money will be there anyways?



The percent going now-a-days is 20% today for good service. He knew he could have received that or a higher tip even. He has common sense and knows what the norm percentage is for good tips. So he knew he could have had 20% plus if he wouldn't have messed up so majorly. Especially, due to his hugging.



He didn't make up entirely for the mistake. NO ONE'S TIME can be made up no matter WHAT YOU DO, you cannot get back someone's time. That is the truth.



32yrs old



Avoiding the question once again. You still didn't admit to me that you would EXPECT MORE PAY FOR MORE WORK in that Jane Doe scenario.

They tip for many reasons, NOT just for the overall experience. The overall experience has something to do with the amount of work they put into it. WHY do you think it doesn't?



But we don't pay a couple of bucks or even a penny to the fast food cashiers that do the same or less amount of work, WHY would it be FAIR to everyone that does the same type of job(same or less work) for one person to receive a tip for good service, but not the other for good service? It wouldn't be fair to pay someone "a couple of bucks" for handing me that pasta dish at Applebee's when I can't tip the cashier that puts together my burger at Wendy's. It's not fair to tip you, but not them when they put more EFFORT and did MORE WORK than you did just because you make less money from your employer.



I am right. The workload is the same for BOTH JOBS, sometimes LESS WORK even at non-fast food restaurants. Assigned work has ZERO to do with HOW MUCH WORK and how HARD WORK certain tasks are. You know that is the truth.

If I am wrong, HOW COME, asking you to name some things you haven't came up with ANYTHING they do more for a to-go order that is picked up inside, huh? Since you cannot come up with anything, you are proving me right, not wrong.

Also, if I am so wrong, how come you keep avoiding my question about Jane Doe's workload being more that she should deserve a higher tip than when she has a lesser load? Is it because as you said:



In a way, you have answered the question by saying that as far as I am concerned.



As I said before, what someone makes per hour is MEANLINGLESS to what WORK they did for you.

Mangement expects customers to tip? NO, management cares about staying in business, finding an EASY WAY OUT OF PAYING TO-GO SERVERS MORE. That's what that is about.



When you order it over the phone and it's ready when you go inside, which all they have to do is ring up my credit card and I sign.



That's a personal decision and it's NOT part of the service. I do that at home BEFORE, BEFORE, BEFORE, BEFORE I call it in. If I don't know what I want, I don't place my order until I am ready, so you cannot count that in the service, since that action occurs BEFORE the service begins, DUH!!



Placing an order sometimes has taken more time at McDonald's than at Applebee's when I have ordered "AS IS" their pasta dishes to-go.

The time it takes to put my order into the computer, well that's done when I am at home if I get a to-go order and if I don't call it in, that's the same amount of time as it does for a fast food cashier to put in my order, no different there.



I sure would and most of the rest of the world would too. Not too many people like waiting. That's why a lot of people call their to-go order in instead of waiting until they get there to place their order, DUH!!

You sound like you are a princess that should be entitled to everything when you eat out at the snap of your fingers . I tip no matter what, even if the server forgets to bring me water because i respect their line of work, it's a tough business. I don't agree with your views :sad2: and i feel sorry for any server that has come in contact with you.
 
You sound like you are a princess that should be entitled to everything when you eat out at the snap of your fingers . I tip no matter what, even if the server forgets to bring me water because i respect their line of work, it's a tough business. I don't agree with your views :sad2: and i feel sorry for any server that has come in contact with you.

This is a very old thread and this poster isn't a regular poster but someone who stirs up trouble.. google her name, don't get involved.
 

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