Tipping concierge vs regular stateroom?

There are a total of 6 people that I account for. (I think my wording was not clear)

3x Concierge hosts. These are the folks you will deal with for all your desires. :)
Lounge bartender - self evident. :)
Lounge host - different from the Conceirge hosts. This person keeps the food and drinks stocked, etc.
Asst Lounge host - subs for the lounge host when the lounge host is on break.
Thank You
 
This will be the first time we’re staying in concierge, family suite. Are there still six people we need to tip or is that only for the 1 or 2 bedroom suites?
 

This will be the first time we’re staying in concierge, family suite. Are there still six people we need to tip or is that only for the 1 or 2 bedroom suites?
These are the folks in the Concierge lounge. Not your stateroom host. The stateroom host base tip will be added to your account, as normal. These 6 are above and beyond that.
 
Although I've saved in Concierge a couple of times I just can't recall. Can you include the Concierge tips on your room charge like the regular tips?
Yes, you can go to the Concierge team or Guests services to get a voucher to tip the Concierge team and get it added to your onboard account. We never travel with large amounts of US cash, so we always adjust tips so the extra tips are added to our account.

Also, Concierge hosts tips are pooled. There is no point to give tips to each individual host based on how much help each one provided.
 
At the extreme risk of turning this into an unwinnable series of posts about the pros and cons of tipping on the DCL concierge level, I would like to simply offer the following: most of us know what fair value is for a service. Simply tip accordingly.

Now for the portion of this post that usually causes a firestorm. We have been in the concierge area multiple times with varying levels of service and help offered by the concierge staff. Our first cruise in a Royal was met with mostly no help. Without an original concierge lounge, an assigned concierge would periodically check on us, perhaps once a day. Nothing was really provided. Nothing was really requested. For that experience, I concluded I would treat the position like a concierge at a fine hotel. No services provided, no tip needed. On a subsequent trip, we were helped extensively by a concierge (Julia for those who might remember her). She went out of her way to make so many things very special for our young children. The other two concierge members on that sailing were mostly nonexistent, so we directly gave a "nice" tip directly to Julia. Whether she split the tips or pocketed it is of no concern to me as the tip was provided directly to her. On another cruise, the three concierge staff members were personable and nice. Again, we had very few requests, however, we might have had a few and decided to do the community tip for them. So, my opinion remains, if you want to tip $500 or $5000 or $50, it is up to you. You will know better than anyone if you use their services or if they provide a special memory to your family. However, never feel guilty if you do not feel compelled to toss in at a level stated by some of the people on this board. I still remember basic math. There are 76 concierge cabins/suites on the Wish. If everybody tips $500 per cabin per week for a 35 week concierge contract, that would generate $1,330,000 split three ways ($443,000 per concierge for a 35 week contract). I might be wrong, but I do not think anybody honestly believes that the concierge job is that valuable. If I reverse calculate and say that each concierge, in a best case scenario, should bring home around $80K for a 35 week contract, that person would need to make around $2300 in tips each week. Three concierge staff would need to pool around $7K per week to make that happen. 76 cabins means $100 a week tip for each cabin/suite would make that $80K level happen for each concierge. Someone on a 4 night cruise would need to tip around $60. 3 night cruise is around $40. Yup, if those base tip levels are used, you are doing your fair share to have each of the concierge staff make $80K for a 35 week contract. Not too shabby in my opinion. But that is my opinion. Again, if you want to tip $500, feel free!

DWF

P.S. Something else I remembered. We have had several interesting discussions onboard in the concierge lounge about this subject with other DCL families. Invariably, it is the lack of guidance provided by DCL that causes the most frustration. Perhaps, just perhaps, the concierge staff has argued against guidance as they might look at a set amount being lower than they actually collect currently. Again, knowing families who have tipped several hundred dollars or even a thousand dollars, the concierge staff might have a point in not wanting guidance by DCL!

P.P.S. Invariably, the staff that serves drinks during happy hour and restocks the food provides much more to my wife and I (and our kids) than the concierge team (usually). So, I am usually surprised when someone tips the concierge staff many multiples (i.e. 10X) more than the waitstaff in the lounge. I know it is just me, but when I see a concierge just hanging out at a desk while the waitstaff is working super hard, I tend to reward that more. Again, I am sure it is just me, but I do know that on at least one cruise, we purposefully tipped the waitstaff substantially more than the concierge staff. Based on their surprised look upon opening the envelope we gave them, I am sure we were in the minority.
 
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Also, Concierge hosts tips are pooled. There is no point to give tips to each individual host based on how much help each one provided.
DCL finally changed this. My husband was insistent that one of the hosts get a bigger tip on our December 2023 cruise. He said she helped him more. I barely even used the lounge, but the one time I lost my key and lanyard (the Magic bands don't work for ship re-entry, so I had to replace my key) the one he wanted to give the extra tip to is the one who helped me as well. She was the one who worked the mornings and we did not interact much with the one who worked afternoons or the one who worked evenings.

So, tip time, I went into the lounge in the evening and awkwardly had to ask the evening host to add all of our tips, which gave her and the midday host the same amount and the morning host the most. She was very gracious and gave me print outs just like the ones you give to all of your serving teams. I also got new printouts for all of them since I raised the tips above the standard amounts. There was also an option to tip each member of the concierge serving team individually. Even though we tipped them the same amounts, I was glad to see you can do this on the account now instead of cash. I've heard the team members prefer getting it in their accounts, because it makes it easier for them to send it home.

It was our first concierge experience, so I had only read about what to expect. A lot of the info was outdated. Was happy to see it was much easier to tip than I expected it to be and wanted to report back for others who may be looking to do Concierge soon.
 
P.P.S. Invariably, the staff that serves drinks during happy hour and restocks the food provides much more to my wife and I (and our kids) than the concierge team (usually). So, I am usually surprised when someone tips the concierge staff many multiples (i.e. 10X) more than the waitstaff in the lounge. I know it is just me, but when I see a concierge just hanging out at a desk while the waitstaff is working super hard, I tend to reward that more. Again, I am sure it is just me, but I do know that on at least one cruise, we purposefully tipped the waitstaff substantially more than the concierge staff. Based on their surprised look upon opening the envelope we gave them, I am sure we were in the minority.

I don't drink alcohol and never once ate in the lounge. I did grab drinks (sodas/waters) at times and had the bar tender make me a coke the one time there were none out to grab. That said, we only tipped one host 2x the serving team and the other hosts 1.5x the serving team. I 100% agree with you that they physically work harder and could not justify tipping them significantly less. Funnily enough, my boys and I were rarely in the lounge. The only one who really used it was my husband, so the vast majority of his generous tipping was for things I never witnessed. I have to agree with everything you said. Tip what you feel is right.
 
At the extreme risk of turning this into an unwinnable series of posts about the pros and cons of tipping on the DCL concierge level, I would like to simply offer the following: most of us know what fair value is for a service. Simply tip accordingly.

Now for the portion of this post that usually causes a firestorm. We have been in the concierge area multiple times with varying levels of service and help offered by the concierge staff. Our first cruise in a Royal was met with mostly no help. Without an original concierge lounge, an assigned concierge would periodically check on us, perhaps once a day. Nothing was really provided. Nothing was really requested. For that experience, I concluded I would treat the position like a concierge at a fine hotel. No services provided, no tip needed. On a subsequent trip, we were helped extensively by a concierge (Julia for those who might remember her). She went out of her way to make so many things very special for our young children. The other two concierge members on that sailing were mostly nonexistent, so we directly gave a "nice" tip directly to Julia. Whether she split the tips or pocketed it is of no concern to me as the tip was provided directly to her. On another cruise, the three concierge staff members were personable and nice. Again, we had very few requests, however, we might have had a few and decided to do the community tip for them. So, my opinion remains, if you want to tip $500 or $5000 or $50, it is up to you. You will know better than anyone if you use their services or if they provide a special memory to your family. However, never feel guilty if you do not feel compelled to toss in at a level stated by some of the people on this board. I still remember basic math. There are 76 concierge cabins/suites on the Wish. If everybody tips $500 per cabin per week for a 35 week concierge contract, that would generate $1,330,000 split three ways ($443,000 per concierge for a 35 week contract). I might be wrong, but I do not think anybody honestly believes that the concierge job is that valuable. If I reverse calculate and say that each concierge, in a best case scenario, should bring home around $80K for a 35 week contract, that person would need to make around $2300 in tips each week. Three concierge staff would need to pool around $7K per week to make that happen. 76 cabins means $100 a week tip for each cabin/suite would make that $80K level happen for each concierge. Someone on a 4 night cruise would need to tip around $60. 3 night cruise is around $40. Yup, if those base tip levels are used, you are doing your fair share to have each of the concierge staff make $80K for a 35 week contract. Not too shabby in my opinion. But that is my opinion. Again, if you want to tip $500, feel free!

DWF

P.S. Something else I remembered. We have had several interesting discussions onboard in the concierge lounge about this subject with other DCL families. Invariably, it is the lack of guidance provided by DCL that causes the most frustration. Perhaps, just perhaps, the concierge staff has argued against guidance as they might look at a set amount being lower than they actually collect currently. Again, knowing families who have tipped several hundred dollars or even a thousand dollars, the concierge staff might have a point in not wanting guidance by DCL!

P.P.S. Invariably, the staff that serves drinks during happy hour and restocks the food provides much more to my wife and I (and our kids) than the concierge team (usually). So, I am usually surprised when someone tips the concierge staff many multiples (i.e. 10X) more than the waitstaff in the lounge. I know it is just me, but when I see a concierge just hanging out at a desk while the waitstaff is working super hard, I tend to reward that more. Again, I am sure it is just me, but I do know that on at least one cruise, we purposefully tipped the waitstaff substantially more than the concierge staff. Based on their surprised look upon opening the envelope we gave them, I am sure we were in the minority.
I've never cruised concierge, so I can't really comment about that, but on the tipping, these discussions really make me appreciate the way Virgin Voyages handles it. No tips required. This even goes to when you get a drink at the bar. If it's a $10 drink, it's $10, not $11.80 to include the 18% tip. Virgin includes it up front. They pay the staff accordingly to their position a living wage, so there is no tipping expected. I believe that this was a Richard Branson thing as it was one of the things he hated about cruising.

I appreciate this because I know that the staff is getting paid, and I don't have to worry about developing an advanced regression model to figure out how much to tip...
 

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