Tim Tebow.

[JoBird]

Yes, I have access to Tim Tebow's medical records.

Let's see the team said he had a sever respiratory illness, media outlets have been reporting that he and other team members were so ill that they had to take a separate flight to the game as to not risk infecting the rest of the team.

Is it publicly confirmed as h1n1? No but I certainly don't know of any other sever contagious respiratory illnesses going around right now. Do you?

h1n1 or not the guy was sick enough to require a separate jet to the game so he was hardly playing clear headed.

Who cares if it was the SEC or another conference? I'm not accusing the coach of running up the score. However he had an ill player who, while playing well, was not at the top of his game. They had a comfortable lead at the half. So IMO, he could have and should have sat Tebow. Let the kid rest, preserve energy, get some oxygen or whatever and put him back in for the 4th if things were going down hill.

I didn't see the game. However it is my understanding that Kentucky isn't really a great team that FL was going to need every trick available to beat.

I get it, your a Gator fan. Then you, of all people, should want your star player healthy as can be instead of spending the night in a hospital with a head injury.

The part I highlighted could've happened to anyone-- at anytime- sick or not. It was a freak thing.

Until I have won two National Championships in three years with the rings sitting on my finger to prove it-- I won't second guess the Coach's ability to determine what is best for a player.


Coach Meyer and Tim have a special bond- he thinks of him as a son. If for one second he thought Tebow was in any danger with his "Respiratory illness", he wouldn't have let him play.
Period.


The truth of the matter is-- Tim was playing very well last night before the injury. He looked good. If he truly had the Swine flu--- and since I've had it myself for the last 8 days and know how it feels- he certainly wouldn't be out there doing what he was doing and doing it well. The accident was just that. An accident. It could have happened at anytime, during any game.

And as far as coaches who "Run up the score"-- I don't see anyone talking about Mack Brown keeping Colt McCoy in into the fourth quarter when they were beating Wyoming badly.




Jo

 

[lillygator]

good post Jo...radionate....I work at a hospital here in FL, all the hospitals in our county are treating any flu like symptoms as H1N1 as the test is very inaccurate....it does not mean that every case is H1N1....guess I am just on WS too much as we are scolded for stating a FACT without backup.

Of course I am not saying he was not sick, he was as were OTHER players that flew on the same plane as him.

I was in such shock last night and felt he should have been taken straight to the hospital (not sure about K hospitals though), I hope he is fine.

 

[RadioNate]

good post Jo...radionate....I work at a hospital here in FL, all the hospitals in our county are treating any flu like symptoms as H1N1 as the test is very inaccurate....it does not mean that every case is H1N1....guess I am just on WS too much as we are scolded for stating a FACT without backup.

Of course I am not saying he was not sick, he was as were OTHER players that flew on the same plane as him.

I was in such shock last night and felt he should have been taken straight to the hospital (not sure about K hospitals though), I hope he is fine.

Re-read my 1st post. I never said it was FACT.

In fact, I said "From what I've heard, and it could be wrong, but he was left in the game after they had a considerable lead before he was hit. All this after he had to fly a separate jet to the game because he also has h1n1.

It seems like an 'anything to win' coaching decision. Which I loathe. But I also didn't see it so I could be wrong."

I'm also not a Dr or nurse but like you said, every flu is being treated as h1n1 so really, is it a huge stretch to think that is what he was sick with? Think about it, his roommate has the flu (which has been publicly stated by the team) and Tebow has a publicly stated respiratory illness. Really what is the likelihood that Tebow's illness is not also the flu. I thought the overwhelming majority of the flu currently going around was h1n1 but I don't work in a hospital so I'd have to defer to you on that.

And yes, accidents and injuries happen all the time. But I think the risk for injury goes up when a player isn't feeling 100%. Sure, he was playing great, but that doesn't necessarily mean the guy was feeling 100%.

 

[Rora]

I was at the game. It was such a scary moment. Thankfully, we don't play next week. Give him and the boys some time to recover from the flu and now Tim's head injury.

I know the entire city of Gainesville is praying he'll be okay.

EDIT about the FLU
I live in Gainesville, I am a Post Grad Student and I get the Alligator (student newspaper) when it is published. The Alligator said Tim and numerous other boys on the team do have flu/ H1N1. If they don't know the truth, then I don't know either..

And Meyer does NOT run up the score. Geez, some people have hard feelings about the Gators. Guess we just win a lot.

 

[BeachGirlFLA]

If you've watched Gator football for 30 plus years, you know that anything can happen in the SEC.

It's rare for first string quarterbacks to come out in SEC games until sometime in the fourth quarter, even in blowout situations.

I've never thought of Urban Meyer running up the score. That's more of a Steve Spurrier thing.

ITA....Urban Meyer is a good guy, as is Tim Tebow.
Like another PP, I thought about Natasha Richardson when he was throwing up after the head injury since they said he had a respiratory illness earlier (not necessarily the flu.)
I think he'll be back after the bye week...if the trainers allow him to come back that quickly. He's SO competitive and I think he'd love to have another Heisman.

 

[RadioNate]

I was at the game. It was such a scary moment. Thankfully, we don't play next week. Give him and the boys some time to recover from the flu and now Tim's head injury.

I know the entire city of Gainesville is praying he'll be okay.

EDIT about the FLU
I live in Gainesville, I am a Post Grad Student and I get the Alligator (student newspaper) when it is published. The Alligator said Tim and numerous other boys on the team do have H1N1. If they don't know the truth, then I don't know either..

And Meyer does NOT run up the score. Geez, some people have hard feelings about the Gators. Guess we just win a lot.

I actually don't care either way about the Gators. If I had to pick an NCAA team, it wouldn't even be someone the Gators play.

I was actually thinking that some Gator fans are a little sensitive to the fact that it might not of been the best coaching decision to leave an ill player, who was later injured, in the game when they had a considerable lead.

I would take no issue with Meyer leaving Tebow in under normal circumstances. I don't care if he DOES run up the score. But in this circumstance, I think he should have sat him down. I don't get why that opinion is so bothersom to Gator fans.

 

[Rora]

I agree, Meyer should've taken him out of the game but that doesn't mean that Tim would comply .

I apologize about being a crazy Gator fan.. football makes me a little more high strung than usual.

 

[lillygator]

That is super scary. Sad really. He didn't need to be hurt like that.

I didn't watch the game (I was at Epcot) and I'm not a fan in general.

From what I've heard, and it could be wrong, but he was left in the game after they had a considerable lead before he was hit. All this after he had to fly a separate jet to the game because he also has h1n1.

It seems like an 'anything to win' coaching decision. Which I loathe. But I also didn't see it so I could be wrong.

I hope he is ok. He has all the promise in the world.

Re-read my 1st post. I never said it was FACT.

In fact, I said "From what I've heard, and it could be wrong, but he was left in the game after they had a considerable lead before he was hit. All this after he had to fly a separate jet to the game because he also has h1n1.

It seems like an 'anything to win' coaching decision. Which I loathe. But I also didn't see it so I could be wrong."

I'm also not a Dr or nurse but like you said, every flu is being treated as h1n1 so really, is it a huge stretch to think that is what he was sick with? Think about it, his roommate has the flu (which has been publicly stated by the team) and Tebow has a publicly stated respiratory illness. Really what is the likelihood that Tebow's illness is not also the flu. I thought the overwhelming majority of the flu currently going around was h1n1 but I don't work in a hospital so I'd have to defer to you on that.

And yes, accidents and injuries happen all the time. But I think the risk for injury goes up when a player isn't feeling 100%. Sure, he was playing great, but that doesn't necessarily mean the guy was feeling 100%.

just to show you your first quote...I guess I was wrong but nothing was bolded like the second. No matter, Tebow is a wonderful young man, and I hope for the best for him.

 

[JoBird]

Meyer has said that seeing Tim lying out on the field shook him up-- it made his knees shake. He said that it was like seeing his own son out there on the field.

Yes- the Gator Nation is passionate about our team. We love our boys as well as our coaches. And so we feel that if Coach Meyer thought it was okay for Tim to play- someone he considers "Like a son", then we have to respect his knowledge and wisdom when it concerns his players.

And knowing Timmy as we all do-- he would do everything in his power to play, regardless of the circumstances-- b/c that is who he is. OTOH, he is also an adult who is involved in making decisions concerning his own welfare- b/c after all, it is football. The players know it is a contact sport that carries many risks and dangers.

Of course, his first question to Meyer after he went down was "Did I hold onto the ball?"

Classic Tebow.

 

[ICF]

please get a clue....Urban is in no way a @%$@#, and does not run up the score....

do really believe what you type?

here is 1 example found in 3 seconds on google...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...tim_tebow_gators_rip_georgia_as_urban_me.html

Florida coach Urban Meyer couldn't resist pulling the Dawgs' tail at the end, calling two timeouts in the last 44 seconds to prolong the agony, keeping Georgia's defense on the field as long as possible.

This in a game they won 49-10? Taking TO's with 44 seconds left in a game up by 30?? Yeah, that would qualify him as a @#$@% that runs up the score.

and just for fun a 2nd example...

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-b...1-in-excuses/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog

2) Claimed he’s not trying to impress pollsters, this from someone whose team since 2007 has had point totals of 62, 56, 56, 51, 63, 49, 56, 70, 49, 59, 59,49, 51 and 59.

 

[BeachGirlFLA]

do really believe what you type?

here is 1 example found in 3 seconds on google...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...tim_tebow_gators_rip_georgia_as_urban_me.html



This in a game they won 49-10? Taking TO's with 44 seconds left in a game up by 30?? Yeah, that would qualify him as a @#$@% that runs up the score.

and just for fun a 2nd example...

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-b...1-in-excuses/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog

Considering the fact that the number of points a team wins its games by is a pretty major factor in the rankings, I see absolutely nothing wrong with scoring as many points as possible and making sure that the other team scores as few as you can possibly hold them to.

 

[lillygator]

do really believe what you type?

here is 1 example found in 3 seconds on google...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...tim_tebow_gators_rip_georgia_as_urban_me.html



This in a game they won 49-10? Taking TO's with 44 seconds left in a game up by 30?? Yeah, that would qualify him as a @#$@% that runs up the score.

and just for fun a 2nd example...

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-b...1-in-excuses/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog

if you would like to know about running up the score, please google Spurrier and my GOD, how can you run up the score with second and third strings playing?

 

[ICF]

if you would like to know about running up the score, please google Spurrier and my GOD, how can you run up the score with second and third strings playing?

if 2nd and 3rd string were playing that should mean Tebow wasn't out there...and clearly Spurrier is the King of running up scores, but I didnt think that was the topic at hand.

Obviously Urban is a good coach, his win - loss record and champsionships prove that. That however doesn't preclude him from being a @#@#% that runs up the score on people.

That is the general preception most of non-Univ of Florida college football fans have of him, even though most of us would happy with him having the same results at "our" school.

 

[lillygator]

]if 2nd and 3rd string were playing that should mean Tebow wasn't out there[/COLOR]...and clearly Spurrier is the King of running up scores, but I didnt think that was the topic at hand.

Obviously Urban is a good coach, his win - loss record and champsionships prove that. That however doesn't preclude him from being a @#@#% that runs up the score on people.

That is the general preception most of non-Univ of Florida college football fans have of him, even though most of us would happy with him having the same results at "our" school.

red---all season, so far. if Urban was running up the score JB would have not touched the ball in reg season play my friend.
DeepSkyBlue - it wasn't but didn't you bring it up or maybe someone else?

That however doesn't preclude him from being a @#@#% that runs up the score on people. HAPlease....get a football clue!

 

[ICF]

red---all season, so far. if Urban was running up the score JB would have not touched the ball in reg season play my friend.
DeepSkyBlue - it wasn't but didn't you bring it up or maybe someone else?

That however doesn't preclude him from being a @#@#% that runs up the score on people. HAPlease....get a football clue!

perhaps you need a clue on how to quote and format a post...whatever you were trying to do didn't work.

and as football...thanks, I know plenty and I don't doubt I know at least as much as you do.

 

[lillygator]

perhaps you need a clue on how to quote and format a post...whatever you were trying to do didn't work.

and as football...thanks, I know plenty and I don't doubt I know at least as much as you do.

maybe you are right re my formatting...you still have no clue re anything re college fb nor anything Gators, which is apparant from your posts.

 

[ICF]

maybe you are right re my formatting...you still have no clue re anything re college fb nor anything Gators, which is apparant from your posts.

lets see...

I said Urban was a winning football coach that most teams would want if given the opportunity.
I said he likes to run up the score.
I said he is generally perceived as a #%$@#
I said that Tebow shouldn't have been in the game up 30 pts given the injury risk.

Which point exactly says I know nothing about football?

Or are you one of those homers that can't stand to have anything even a little negative said about their team??

 

[chrisxtwo]

ICF- You should note that the in the Georgia game, he took the TO's with 44 seconds to go as an answer to the unsportsmanlike conduct of the Georgia team in the game in the previous year. The entire team (GA) ran out on the field after a good play to celebrate.

As for the score, if you don't run up the score like that, you lose points in the BCS rankings. It's a crazy system that is broke and needs to go.

I hope that Tebow recovers fully and quickly. Not just because I want the Gators to win games but because of the stand up guy Tebow is. I do know that if there is ANY doubt in Tebow's condition, Meyer will not play him. Last year at the SEC championship game, Percy Harvin was begging to play and Meyer wouldn't risk any further injury.

If Tebow hadn't been injured, no one would be talking about whether or not he should've been on the field still.

 

[ICF]

As for the score, if you don't run up the score like that, you lose points in the BCS rankings. It's a crazy system that is broke and needs to go.

Not exactly true....the actual BCS ranking formula doesnt take into account margin of victory. At most, your ranking might go up or down in one of the polls depending on margin, but the bcs doesnt penalize for close wins.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=864127

The BCS rankings have undergone several tweaks since being unveiled in 1998. Most recently, the BCS replaced The Associated Press poll with the Harris poll, put greater weight on the human polls, removed strength of schedule and decided to use only computer polls that don't consider margin of victory.

 

[lillygator]

that's what happens when your coach is a @%$@# that likes to run up the score on people. No way Tebow should have been in the game at that point.

Really people, you think Kentucky was going to come back in the 2nd half?? This wasn't Alabama, Georgia or Auburn they were playing. It was time for the b/u QB to be in there.

do really believe what you type?

here is 1 example found in 3 seconds on google...

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/c...tim_tebow_gators_rip_georgia_as_urban_me.html



This in a game they won 49-10? Taking TO's with 44 seconds left in a game up by 30?? Yeah, that would qualify him as a @#$@% that runs up the score.

and just for fun a 2nd example...

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-b...1-in-excuses/?cxntfid=blogs_jeff_schultz_blog

if 2nd and 3rd string were playing that should mean Tebow wasn't out there...and clearly Spurrier is the King of running up scores, but I didnt think that was the topic at hand.

Obviously Urban is a good coach, his win - loss record and champsionships prove that. That however doesn't preclude him from being a @#@#% that runs up the score on people.

That is the general preception most of non-Univ of Florida college football fans have of him, even though most of us would happy with him having the same results at "our" school.

perhaps you need a clue on how to quote and format a post...whatever you were trying to do didn't work.

and as football...thanks, I know plenty and I don't doubt I know at least as much as you do.

lets see...

I said Urban was a winning football coach that most teams would want if given the opportunity.
I said he likes to run up the score.
I said he is generally perceived as a #%$@#
I said that Tebow shouldn't have been in the game up 30 pts given the injury risk.

Which point exactly says I know nothing about football?

Or are you one of those homers that can't stand to have anything even a little negative said about their team??

Not exactly true....the actual BCS ranking formula doesnt take into account margin of victory. At most, your ranking might go up or down in one of the polls depending on margin, but the bcs doesnt penalize for close wins.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=864127