Tim Tebow.

[RadioNate]

So around halftime, maybe before, maybe after, you pull your starting QB, putting in the backup. Followed by second and third string going in on offense and defense as well.

You let those players do their very best-and get some experience as well- b/c one day, they may be starters too.

The only problem is ---- your second and third string players were also highly recruited. They are better than most other schools First string.


And -- lest you think we keep Tebow in until the bitter end-- he's only played one full game all season. That was against Tennessee.

Jo

If your 2nd and 3rd stringers are SO GOOD and Tebow has only played one full game this season then WHY is it such an offense that people believe that he should have been sat down at the half when he was suffering from a 'respiratory illness?"

I mean the 2nd string QB should have been able to get the job done since Tebow left him a considerable lead. Right? I know Kentucky is in the SEC but they aren't even ranked. It isn't like they were playing Texas.

 

[RadioNate]

I think everyone wants their conference to be considered the best or one of the best. But when you look at results, you can't deny the SEC has done pretty well in the post season lately. Also, 3 of the top 5 teams in the new AP poll are SEC teams. Not too bad. I think most SEC fans are just tired of being told we aren't as tough as the Big 12 or PAC 10 or Big 10.

As for Meyer, I don't know how he is seen by other coaches or fans, but Sporting News did just name him College Coach of the Decade. That might be a little much but I'm happy for him. I don't expect everyone to love him as much as the Gator Nation does but I just don't want anyone to suggest that he knowingly risked Tebow's health or career for a win against Kentucky.

Running up the score...well, if your second string quarterback comes in and throws for 1 or 2 TDs, what do you do? Tell him not to? Running up the score is in the eye of the beholder but it's not unheard of outside of FL...

Texas 64- UTEP 7
Oregon 42- Cal 3 (hee hee)
OKSt 56- Grambling St 6
Nebraska 55- LA Lafayette 0

I don't disagree that the SEC produces teams. But I have never seen the SEC be told they aren't as tough as anything conference. I really think the SEC is the only group of fans that actually care about their conference.

I've lived in Big 10, Big 12, and PAC 10 regions and in none of those conferences do the fans talk about the conference. Yes, the talk about their teams, root against their rivals but they rarely mention the conference. The Big 12 does a bit but really only in terms of winning a conference championship.

Based on my experience (I don't have a link) I just think it is odd the way the SEC refers to the conference constantly. It isn't just Florida. You should hear our mega-LSU fan go on and on.

 

[chrisxtwo]

The 2006 Championship, NO ONE thought Florida would win. (Except Lou Holtz) A Big 12 player said if Florida was in the Big 12, Tebow would be the third best quarterback in his conference. Not this year, but in the recent past there has been a shortage of SEC respect. Now, I probably notice it a bit more because I do love the SEC.

And no, I don't need a link to support your opinion as long as you don't want one to support mine.

 

[JoBird]

If your 2nd and 3rd stringers are SO GOOD and Tebow has only played one full game this season then WHY is it such an offense that people believe that he should have been sat down at the half when he was suffering from a 'respiratory illness?"

I mean the 2nd string QB should have been able to get the job done since Tebow left him a considerable lead. Right? I know Kentucky is in the SEC but they aren't even ranked. It isn't like they were playing Texas.

It's not offensive.
Brantley did fine once he got into the game.

You obviously didn't see the game- Tebow was not in any sort of distress up to that point. If he had've been, he would've been out.

UM won't play someone is they are injured or unable to do it.

Case in point- last year- Percy Harvin and the SEC championship. Percy wanted to play- had an injury-- was actually able to play--- UM said no way.

 

[JoBird]

I don't disagree that the SEC produces teams. But I have never seen the SEC be told they aren't as tough as anything conference. I really think the SEC is the only group of fans that actually care about their conference.

I've lived in Big 10, Big 12, and PAC 10 regions and in none of those conferences do the fans talk about the conference. Yes, the talk about their teams, root against their rivals but they rarely mention the conference. The Big 12 does a bit but really only in terms of winning a conference championship.

Based on my experience (I don't have a link) I just think it is odd the way the SEC refers to the conference constantly. It isn't just Florida. You should hear our mega-LSU fan go on and on.

It's called loyalty to your conference.

You may hate your rival on gameday-- but you always pull for your conference. Just because you do. It's the SEC's way. If other conferences don't do that, then they aren't wrong. That's their way of doing it- we have ours.

I too have lived all over this nation--- and man-- I couldn't wait to get back into SEC country.

There's just something special about it. You either get it or you don't.

Jo

 

[3princesses4us]

Running up the score...well, if your second string quarterback comes in and throws for 1 or 2 TDs, what do you do? Tell him not to? Running up the score is in the eye of the beholder but it's not unheard of outside of FL...

Texas 64- UTEP 7
Oregon 42- Cal 3 (hee hee)
OKSt 56- Grambling St 6
Nebraska 55- LA Lafayette 0

This is funny to me because I was at the Oklahoma State/ Grambling game. Our starting QB did not play again after the 1st half and by early in the 3rd quarter were on our 3rd string QB. We only attempted 7 passes in the entire 2nd half. Almost none of our "star" players played in the game at all due to injuries. Several true freshman and a new Juco WR were the main scorers. So I can only speak for OSU but we were definately not trying to run up the score.

 

[RadioNate]

double post

 

[RadioNate]

It's not offensive.
Brantley did fine once he got into the game.

You obviously didn't see the game- Tebow was not in any sort of distress up to that point. If he had've been, he would've been out.

UM won't play someone is they are injured or unable to do it.

Case in point- last year- Percy Harvin and the SEC championship. Percy wanted to play- had an injury-- was actually able to play--- UM said no way.

I said in my 1st freaking post that I didn't see it!!!!

I also said, and re-quoted myself at least once, that I didn't see the game. Was at EPCOT.

I said in post 1 that I was just going by what I heard.

But the guy required a 2nd jet. People had been speculating all week that he was going to be too ill to play. It isn't like it was a giant strech to think that he may not of been 100%. I saw the hit later, Tebow seemed clueless that he was about to be nailed. Which, by all accounts, is very unlike him. So again, it isn't a stretch to think....in hindsight, that maybe he wasn't as well as people thought.

 

[RadioNate]

It's called loyalty to your conference.

You may hate your rival on gameday-- but you always pull for your conference. Just because you do. It's the SEC's way. If other conferences don't do that, then they aren't wrong. That's their way of doing it- we have ours.

I too have lived all over this nation--- and man-- I couldn't wait to get back into SEC country.

There's just something special about it. You either get it or you don't.

Jo

Clearly I don't.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

whatever, why does it matter? I felt bad for the kid. Was worried that he could have had career ending injury before I knew the extent. I said in my 1st post that I was at Epcot yesterday.

Let's see all the news sources yesterday that I saw said he had the flu....h1n1 is the flu. His roommate has been confirmed with the flu, it really isn't a stretch to believe his 'respitory illness' is the flu or h1n1.

http://***************************/article/2216011/tim_tebow_flu_fears_spread_through.html?cat=14

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4451262


Are YOU saying he wasn't sick???

This is really what you are going to nit pick me over?

FWIW--not much i am sure, but I am NOT a star athlete.

But I did attempt a marathon with some sort of flu/stomach virus. With coaches okay.

I was fine until about the last 4 miles actually.

It is easy to play Monday morning quarterback and suggest what should have been done. But most decisions of that type are not taken lightly when they are made.

Whose to say that what Tim had wasn't just a minor sniffle--then the coach would have caught grief for sitting him out and daresay that anti-gator fans would be calling Tim a wimp.

So easy from your seat to suggest what he should have done, but he felt well enough to play and that is enough for me. Now if he was barfing in every huddle--that would be clear evidence that he should have stepped out.

In my case--I was perky at 13.1 miles and felt well enough to continue--we had no idea how ugly it would get.

Now I will never do that again, but there are many athletes: pro-amateur-novice--will exercise through health challenges. It isn't unheard of nor is it extreme.

Now I do not know anything about Tim's illness--but simply commenting that an illness in and of itself is not reason to be benched.

Tim's injury had nothing to do with his illness unless you are suggesting that quarter backs only get sacked when they are sick.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

The 91-0 nothing game I believe you are referring to was in HS, that's a long way from the SEC and in that case the HS coach didnt play his starters much if at all in some cases.

Meyer in 2008 won games by scores of.....

56-6 against S. Carolina
70-19 against the Citadel
63 -5 against Kentucky...the vaunted powerhouse some thought might come back against them in the 2H Saturday.

Do those count as running it up? Ya think that butt kicking might have prompted the UK players to take out anger on Tebow if given a chance??

So what exactly is the opposite of "running a score up"--isn't it supposed to be a football game.

What do you propose that Urban Meyer do to prevent such "running up of scores".

Just have Tim knee the ball when he gets it?

I don't get it--it's either a football game or a tea party. How patronizing it is to other teams to go easy on them so they can be perceived to be better than they might be.

One could accuse the Hare to be running too much of a lead if his laziness didn't get in the way to assume that he'd beat the Tortoise easily.

I guess I'm trying to understand what would be so "bad" about "running up" a score when one has to "play" the game in order to get those scores.

 

[Nik's Mom]

I don't disagree that the SEC produces teams. But I have never seen the SEC be told they aren't as tough as anything conference. I really think the SEC is the only group of fans that actually care about their conference.

I've lived in Big 10, Big 12, and PAC 10 regions and in none of those conferences do the fans talk about the conference. Yes, the talk about their teams, root against their rivals but they rarely mention the conference. The Big 12 does a bit but really only in terms of winning a conference championship.

Based on my experience (I don't have a link) I just think it is odd the way the SEC refers to the conference constantly. It isn't just Florida. You should hear our mega-LSU fan go on and on.

This is true. I'm a graduate of USC and huge football fan. We rarely talk about the Pac 10. All we care about is that we continue to dominate the region.

In my opinion, if Tebow was already under the weather, he probably should have been removed from the game a little earlier. And he definitely should have been removed from the sidelines faster.

 

[SNylund]

Meyer should be fired for leaving him the game, ridiculous with that big of a lead. What was he thinking?

 

[jodifla]

Meyer should be fired for leaving him the game, ridiculous with that big of a lead. What was he thinking?

Uh, he was thinking it wasn't that big a lead, frankly. The Gators had stalled in the third quarter.

Again, so many of the Monday morning quarterbacks have NO IDEA what they are talking about.

SEC quarterbacks DON'T come out of SEC games until at least the 4th quarter. Unless maybe the score is already 50 or more.

 

[jodifla]

My guys were on the other side of the field Saturday night, so my thoughts:

--On the game specifically: Tebow was hurt midway through the 3rd quarter with Florida up 31-7. You still have to be competing at that point in the game. Even though UK looked really bad in the 1st quarter, we're not a bad program and it was reasonable for Meyer to have his starters (including Tebow) in at that point.

--On running it up: I never understood the concept--and trust me, as a UK football fan, my team has been the victim of lots of lopsided scores. I figure if my team doesn't like them scoring so much, they should stop the other team. If they can't, it's not the other guy's fault. It's high D-I football: ask no quarter, give no quarter.

--On Meyer running it up: His teams score a lot. So do a lot of other top teams--Oklahoma, Texas, etc. So have a lot of coaches in the past. Compared to another former Florida coach (Steve Spurrier), Meyer's an amateur in this area. Regardless, as long as we have this stupid BCS system where subjective opinions (through polls) are a big part of the rankings, instead of a true playoff, I have no problem with any program competing for the national title scoring as much as they can as often as they can.

Thank you for this well-thought out response. YOU get it, because you are in the SEC.

Anytime we go to ANY SEC team, I worry that this will be the year that team surprises us.

After all, it's happened pretty much every year....we've never gone undefeated.

 

[JoBird]

I said in my 1st freaking post that I didn't see it!!!!

I also said, and re-quoted myself at least once, that I didn't see the game. Was at EPCOT.

I said in post 1 that I was just going by what I heard.

But the guy required a 2nd jet. People had been speculating all week that he was going to be too ill to play. It isn't like it was a giant strech to think that he may not of been 100%. I saw the hit later, Tebow seemed clueless that he was about to be nailed. Which, by all accounts, is very unlike him. So again, it isn't a stretch to think....in hindsight, that maybe he wasn't as well as people thought.

Angry much?



For someone who has said in a past post "I don't even like football" (That was from 2006, when the Longhorns won)-- you sure do have a lot to say.

I was stating a fact- It wasn't a question--One that you have, over and over and over stated.

You were at Epcot, you didn't see the game. We all get that. You are not a Gator fan. You are not a fan of the SEC. You are not even a fan of football.

With that being stated, why do you even care at this point?


And as for Tebow's cluessness--- one of our other players who should have been blocking for him- Matt Patchan- missed the block. So obviously Tebow wasn't expecting the hit. And it wasn't even that hit that caused the concussion. It was the knee to the back of the head from our own player- Marcus Gilbert, that caused it.

 

[BeachGirlFLA]

Why do SEC fans think that the SEC is the be all, end all of college football? I'm actually NOT just talking about Gator fans, I've seen it with everyone I know who went to (or roots for) and SEC school.

Since there have been several SEC references here which seem to imply that the SEC is better/different than the rest of the NCAA I thought I'd ask.

The only reason I said that is that a PP said that high school football is a long way from SEC football. I didn't want to have them come back and say that Division II is a long way from SEC football as well....Division II football is (in most cases) a long way from any Divison I football. Of my two favorite college teams (Boise State and Florida), only one is an SEC school so for me, it's not about the Conference.

 

[ICF]

So what exactly is the opposite of "running a score up"--isn't it supposed to be a football game.

What do you propose that Urban Meyer do to prevent such "running up of scores".

Just have Tim knee the ball when he gets it?.

Perhaps take out the starting QB who was already sick???

Don't throw the ball as often?? I've watched plenty of FB where teams in the 2H run the ball 90% of the time and would only pass on 3rd and long.

This whole..."Its the SEC" bs is funny.....what there arent crappy teams in the SEC or is it just they like to rub it in the other teams face that they might suck??

You had an ill QB and a large lead in the 3rd quarter, I'm just saying it might have been a good time to bring in your 2nd string QB...who was probably a highly rated recruit and better than whomever UK had out there.

I wouldn't wish serious injury on anybody, well most anybody, but some day Meyer is gonna get somebody seriously injured late in a game they have no business still playing in and I'm sure you and others will be around going..."but its the SEC".

 

[agnes!]

I'm thinking that it might have been a good time for the back-up QB to get some game-time. How's Tebow doing now anyway? Will he be allowed to play? A head-injury severe enough to be called a concussion is nothing to fool around with...

agnes!

 

[BeachGirlFLA]

I'm thinking that it might have been a good time for the back-up QB to get some game-time. How's Tebow doing now anyway? Will he be allowed to play? A head-injury severe enough to be called a concussion is nothing to fool around with...

agnes!

Since Florida has their bye week this week (very lucky timing), there's a good chance he'll be able to play in the next game.