Tiger admits to "transgressions"

[CaliforniaDreamin]

Surprised Tiger made this statement since he doesn't have to apologize to anyone other than his wife. He owes us nothing.

Agreed.

 

[RitaZ.]

It's not acceptable, nor is it ANY WAY like Michael Vicks illegal activities. No comparison at all.

It is between husband and wife, IMO. Not between society and husband and wife.

Absolutely!

If his wife wants to accept his cheating and move on, then that's her business. It none of my business, doesn't affect me one bit and so on.

 

[disney1990]

If I was her I wouldn't want him back

I am more than a few years older than you are. I have seen quite a few of my friends go through a crisis like this. The wife and/or husband says that they would immediately leave if their spouse has a transgression.

When it actually happened, they were begging their spouse to stay with them "because they loved them" and didn't want them to leave.

Nobody ever wants their spouse to cheat on them, but sometimes having them decide that they love somebody else and the reality of them actually leaving, is not what people want to happen.

Yes, I say, right now, that if my spouse was with somebody else, I would want them to leave. But, after over 25 years of marriage, if it were to ever happen, I honestly don't know what I would do.

That said, again this is between Tiger and Elin. Only they can decide what the future holds.

The Clintons are still together, so obviously some people can move past these things.

 

[maxiesmom]

It's not acceptable, nor is it ANY WAY like Michael Vicks illegal activities. No comparison at all.

It is between husband and wife, IMO. Not between society and husband and wife.

I totally agree with you. I could care less who Tiger sleeps with. It is nobodys business but his and his wife's. But I do care when people go around killing animals or other people. There is a huge difference.

 

[Poohs Pal]

Surprised Tiger made this statement since he doesn't have to apologize to anyone other than his wife. He owes us nothing.

I agree. But then here I am reading this thread. Susan

 

[Pig Pen]

Oh, but it did provide our office lunch table with several days of interesting noon-time speculation and possible scenarios. I guess we will move on to the state dinner crashers.

It's just human nature, folks. People will sin and the public will gape.

 

[ogreenlee]

i'd venture to say that most of the marriages that i'm personally familiar with have stuck together when these things have happened.

it happens more than anyone thinks... sad, but reality.

 

[java]

Is anyone else surprised that his house was so close to the neighbor's house? That's not how I thought he lived. But then again who am I?

 

[krcit]

i'd venture to say that most of the marriages that i'm personally familiar with have stuck together when these things have happened.

it happens more than anyone thinks... sad, but reality.

Same here but in all the situations I know of the wife didn't take a golf club to the husband!

 

[DebbieB]

Nice guys screw up by buying the wrong brand of milk. Nice guys don't screw up by cheating on their wife with MULTIPLE women. Sorry, but this moves Tiger out of the "nice guy" category.

I agree. The fact (if it's true) that he was calling his girlfriend and trying to cover his tracks with the cellphone is pathetic. He isn't sorry, he's sorry he got caught.

 

[joyjoy]

He isn't sorry, he's sorry he got caught.

I believe these two things absolutely can happen at the same time. I've done things I was sorry for, and also wasn't thrilled about it being discovered. I was still sorry. And I think he is, too.

I also believe "nice guys" can screw up. It happens. It's not right, but I don't think he should be shunned from society because of his indiscretions. It's a terrible thing to do to your spouse, for sure. But people DO get through these things all the time. He's not evil, he just did some things that were totally wrong.

 

[DebbieB]

I believe these two things absolutely can happen at the same time. I've done things I was sorry for, and also wasn't thrilled about it being discovered. I was still sorry. And I think he is, too.

I also believe "nice guys" can screw up. It happens. It's not right, but I don't think he should be shunned from society because of his indiscretions. It's a terrible thing to do to your spouse, for sure. But people DO get through these things all the time. He's not evil, he just did some things that were totally wrong.

A one time one night stand is a "nice guy screw up". Multiple long term affairs are not, he had to know it was wrong along the way and continued to do it. He's not evil, just not the wholesome family guy image he wants to project.

 

[Christine]

A one time one night stand is a "nice guy screw up". Multiple long term affairs are not, he had to know it was wrong along the way and continued to do it. He's not evil, just not the wholesome family guy image he wants to project.

I always have to wonder why someone like him (if it's all true) even gets married. I mean, he really hasn't been married all that long. I'm sure that prior to Elin, he had women throwing themselves at him and I'm sure he went for that. If you enjoy that lifestyle, why even GET married. He's young, attractive, unbelievably wealthy--he doesn't even probably have the societal "pressures" that many of us might feel we have to do the whole married with kids routine.

I guess I'm not understanding why he even bothered?

 

[ZachnElli]

I am more than a few years older than you are. I have seen quite a few of my friends go through a crisis like this. The wife and/or husband says that they would immediately leave if their spouse has a transgression.

When it actually happened, they were begging their spouse to stay with them "because they loved them" and didn't want them to leave.

Nobody ever wants their spouse to cheat on them, but sometimes having them decide that they love somebody else and the reality of them actually leaving, is not what people want to happen.

Yes, I say, right now, that if my spouse was with somebody else, I would want them to leave. But, after over 25 years of marriage, if it were to ever happen, I honestly don't know what I would do.



That said, again this is between Tiger and Elin. Only they can decide what the future holds.

The Clintons are still together, so obviously some people can move past these things.

I was going to say basically the same thing. I know many women who have stayed with their husbands after they cheated. And they weren't millionaires, celebrities or sports stars. I'm pretty sure my brother would have stayed with his cheating wife if given the choice. But she's now married to her "other man".

 

[mumom95]

I always have to wonder why someone like him (if it's all true) even gets married. I mean, he really hasn't been married all that long. I'm sure that prior to Elin, he had women throwing themselves at him and I'm sure he went for that. If you enjoy that lifestyle, why even GET married. He's young, attractive, unbelievably wealthy--he doesn't even probably have the societal "pressures" that many of us might feel we have to do the whole married with kids routine.

I guess I'm not understanding why he even bothered?

I think it's because he's selfish. He wanted the whole package, the beautiful wife, beautiful children, white picket fence and happy home life everyone dreams of as a kid.

But he also wanted to be able to mess around with other women when he wanted to. I think when celebrities, athletes and politicians get to a certain point of power they feel they have the right to have everything they want no matter who it hurts.

He screwed up and did it more than once. The wife seems to be pretty ticked off about the whole thing. Sadly, I don't think this marriage has a chance to last long term. He knew it was wrong when he did it before and he'll probably do it again. Elin will only be able to take so much before she either divorces him or beats him to a pulp with his five iron.

I've always liked Tiger. He's an amazing golfer, this doesn't change that. But he certainly isn't the man I thought he was and I have to say I've lost a lot of respect for him.

It will be interesting to see how this affects his endoresments.

 

[Robinrs]

I think it's because he's selfish. He wanted the whole package, the beautiful wife, beautiful children, white picket fence and happy home life everyone dreams of as a kid.

But he also wanted to be able to mess around with other women when he wanted to. I think when celebrities, athletes and politicians get to a certain point of power they feel they have the right to have everything they want no matter who it hurts.
He screwed up and did it more than once. The wife seems to be pretty ticked off about the whole thing. Sadly, I don't think this marriage has a chance to last long term. He knew it was wrong when he did it before and he'll probably do it again. Elin will only be able to take so much before she either divorces him or beats him to a pulp with his five iron.

I've always liked Tiger. He's an amazing golfer, this doesn't change that. But he certainly isn't the man I thought he was and I have to say I've lost a lot of respect for him.

It will be interesting to see how this affects his endoresments.

I've seen this in every single aspect of life, celebrity, non celebs, broke or rich. It's a power thing and one aspect of his life has nothing to do with the other.

He definitely wants his cake and eat it too.

I could care less about his golfing or his "transgressions", never cared for his cablinasian butt and never will. I just think he's a liar and this stupidity is spinning out of his or his spin doctors control. I'm sure their working overtime to maintain his dignity but until then he'll be the butt of every late night show's jokes and SNL is having a ball working on the skit.

 

[Boxley]

Ask Mrs. Kobe Bryant? Ask Mrs. Michael Jordan. Wives don't leave famous husband athletes until after their playing days are over.

Micheal Jordan's wife divorced him.

I wonder if Nike, Buick or any of the other sponsers who depend on Tigers image feel the same way. They ain't paying him millions of dollars on looks alone.

I guess as long as we support people behaving badly, people will behave badly.

I wonder how far some one has to go before the public says nah, that's enough?

If he cheats on his wife. His business as long as he plays good golf
If he beats his wife. That's worse, get rid of the bum
If he is a drug abuser... No problem that's his business.
If he's a drug abuser and sings about killing cops, nope crossed the line there.

Just interesting in what we see as acceptable behaviour?

Tiger Woods had consensual sex with an adult despite the fact that he is married. While that is a horrible thing to do to his family, in the eyes of the Law he did nothing illegal. What you are describing IS illegal and it seems that comparing wife beating and drug abuse to that of breaking a rule placed by society is not apt. If he were to do something illegal, then he would be prosecuted but cheating on his wife? It is a personal matter and therefore should have been treated as that.

 

[Poohbear123]

Hmmm....why does this NOT surprise me? Maybe because I have seen and heard it all.....just about...anyway. As soon as I heard about the "car Accident" in his OWN yard, I knew it was because his wife found out, and what other reason would he have to "flee his home" at 2am in the morning??? Men are SOOO stupid...why give out your Cell number if YOU KNOW the wife is going to check your messages???

 

[MAKmom]

He is a creep in my book. The length of the affair makes me wonder did he just marry his poor wife to breed for him. I feel so sorry for her.

 

[UConnJack]

Surprised Tiger made this statement since he doesn't have to apologize to anyone other than his wife. He owes us nothing.

While I have no love for the paparazzi, and believe celebrities are often unfairly judged and deprived of basic privacy, I do not agree with you.

Tiger has carefully and meticulously crafted a certain image, and has used that image to create a brand. He had sold that image and brand to us and made millions. I'm sorry, but once you do that, you lose some of that right to privacy and judgment. If he (or any celebrity) expects us to buy what they are hawking by selling us a certain image of himself, that that image better be reasonably true. People are so upset and disappointed with him because they trusted him and who he marketed himself as, and now they (rightly) feel lied to. Sure he's human and fallible, and maybe he has been held too high on a pedestal, but he built that pedestal and has been selling stuff to us from it for years.

As an avid golfer and golf fan, I have been awed by Tiger's ability, focus, and determination, but I can't say I've ever liked him. I haven't hated him (other than for making golf boring to watch sometimes when he's winning every tournament), but have been indifferent. That is probably because I have never felt a human side to him. Sure he can be funny and witty sometimes, but he has always been so guarded, impersonal, and arrogant that he has been hard to relate to. That started to change once he got married and started having kids, he seemed to soften up a bit and seem more human, and I bought into the "family man" image he started to craft. Now that it seems like he's been serially cheating on his wife, and while she was pregnant no less, he seems more human all right, but one I have lost a lot of respect for.

Its funny that Phil Mickelson has always been the one accused of being fake and crafting a certain image, while Tiger, although distant and a bit arrogant, was lauded as genuine. While I'm sure Mickelson has skeletons in his closet too, I suspect (and hope) they are nothing compared to this. Phil has always felt more human to me, and has always been obviously flawed, but one place I feel Mickelson has demonstarted that he is not (seriously) flawed is as a father and husband. Tiger has failed at both, and has a lot of work to do to redeem himself in that regard.