Tiered FP+ for DHS

[CCole1013]

How in the world are you spending 12k? Holy moly!

 

[stairstepmom]

With the tiered FP+ talk it just really shows how these parks are seriously lacking in major headliner attractions.Fastpasses were meant to be used for the 2-3 headliner attractions in each park.Having to decide whether I should use a FP+ for the Indy show or Beauty and the Beast is silly,or how about for a character spot or a parade,it doesn't make sense.If I were Disney I would be looking at them needing to add between 1-3 major E Ticket rides to each of their parks because now people are seeing the options they have to pick when choosing FP+ and they realize they're not offering enough,especially if you don't park hop and since they can't get FP+ for a second park it seems Disney wants people to stop buying the park hopper option.Across town you have Universal sitting back and seeing how Disney is all about making people upset and waiting to see how many are going to start spending a bigger chunk of their vacations,if not all of it at Universal.As much as I don't like comparing Disney to Universal you have to look at what they're doing.Universal is tearing down rides that were still popular like Jaws to build new Potter phase 2 which next year will make Universal an even bigger draw,along with new rumored projects like a new Kong ride,at the same time Disney is adding a few props to old rides to give them some attention and offering FP+ to rides like Journey into Imagination which the last couple of times I've ridden it appeared like the ride was closed because there was nobody there to ride it,why you would need a FP for that I don't know.

The sad thing is to think of all the new rides they could've built with 1.5 billion dollars.

Silly Disney, you didn't need to slap a band on everyone's wrists and a + at the end of FastPass to make more money; you only had to build a few more wonderful rides to accommodate more people.

If you'd built it, they would've come...

 

[roomthreeseventeen]

How in the world are you spending 12k? Holy moly!

Their signature line says there are like 10 people spending 10 nights at WL. Adds up fast.

 

[CandleontheWater]

Oh Disney, why do you want to make all of our vacations stink.

I really wish I could take the block-headed executives who brainstormed FP+ and make them stand in line for an hour with my three year old. IF they survive, maybe then they'll see what a completely boneheaded decision all this was.

I want my family-friendly, easy-going, flexible-on-the-fly, Disney vacations back

 

[disnut1149]

Oh Disney, why do you want to make all of our vacations stink.

I really wish I could take the block-headed executives who brainstormed FP+ and make them stand in line for an hour with my three year old. IF they survive, maybe then they'll see what a completely boneheaded decision all this was.

I want my family-friendly, easy-going, flexible-on-the-fly, Disney vacations back

 

[Doug7856]

The sad thing is to think of all the new rides they could've built with 1.5 billion dollars.

Silly Disney, you didn't need to slap a band on everyone's wrists and a + at the end of FastPass to make more money; you only had to build a few more wonderful rides to accommodate more people.

If you'd built it, they would've come...

I'm trying to keep an open mind about FP+, but its getting hard to do so. We generally plan an annual WDW trip and sometimes go two or three times. I think after our trip this month, we'll take a few years off. The lack of new rides and now the rationing of rides after years of greater than inflation ticket price increases have really taken their toll.

 

[freckles04]

*sigh* Darn it.. I can make FP+ selections in ONE WEEK. I just missed it.

Well, we all saw this coming. I wonder if Fantasmic FP+ will come with a reserved section again. It would almost have to, to make it worth being a top tier FP+, wouldn't it? I will not give up RnRC for a Fantasmic FP that doesn't even guarantee I'll get in.

 

[rt2dz]

Honestly, I don't understand what the big deal is. First of all, they are OBVIOUSLY testing different ideas. It's not always going to be tiered in this exact way. Secondly, though, if waiting an hour in line for one of the headliners is going to make you not come back to Walt Disney World for a vacation, you must not like it all that much to begin with.

I think it's time to jump on the train to reality.

I highly doubt that they are just throwing ideas against the wall to see what sticks. They very definitely have ideas in mind and are trying to go with it. Tiering there, tiering taken away, teiring is back.

I guess you enjoy lines. I don't. Not a single person in my family enjoys lines. An hour in line is at least 40 minutes of pure hell. Having a larger family magnifies it. Not everyone even has the same interests. The limit of 3 makes it so not everyone can even ride their favorite ride. The shows (what's left of them) are the same as they have been for years. The shops don't have anything worth browsing--if you've seen one, you've seen it all and it's Walmart quality. The dining isn't superb, never has been, but it used to be the service was good and the atmosphere fun. Rides are all that is left.

 

[M5ward]

Right. Untiered was the test.

I agree...and we failed the test. Everyone (to use a generality) got to pick their three FP+ rides AND got a KTTW ticket that allowed them to "double-dip" by using the KTTW card to pull paper FPs. Often those paper FPs were for rides already selected as FP+ rides thus exhausting all FPs for popular rides like Soarin', TSM, Test Track, RnR, early in the morning. People who got left out in the cold started griping and VOILA...tiered fast passes have returned.

 

[rt2dz]

It was obvious to many that three of the parks don't have enough to do. Disney's decision to force people towards 'under-utilized' ride capacity comes at a great time for the firm in town that is actually building headliner attractions.

Disney can prevent me from obtaining a FP for headliners. Disney can force me into making FPs for lowered tiered rides. But Disney can't make me ride them. Sorry, but there are only two rides I'm interested in FP for in Epcot. I'll get one and ignore all the other FP selections, which, of course, denies someone who might actually use it.

 

[rt2dz]

How in the world are you spending 12k? Holy moly!

If you are referring to me (I don't have a signature that reveals any personal info--number of people or resort)...

6 people, 4 disney adults, APs due to length of trip,
Thanksgiving Week (no discount) + a few days, no discounts
Dining surcharges, no discounts (TiW blackout week)
etc, etc, etc

It all adds up pretty quickly

 

[Huggups]

Whew...just got mine made under the wire!

 

[btk2333]

If you are referring to me (I don't have a signature that reveals any personal info--number of people or resort)...

6 people, 4 disney adults, APs due to length of trip,
Thanksgiving Week (no discount) + a few days, no discounts
Dining surcharges, no discounts (TiW blackout week)
etc, etc, etc

It all adds up pretty quickly

While I'm not disputing the amount of money you're spending- just in case anyone is reading this - TiW is not blacked out for the whole week- only Thanksgiving Day- in the past I have had luck using my TiW on blackout days so if you have one try it- it is definitely not blacked out all week though.

 

[WILDERNESS FAN 55]

I think it's time to jump on the train to reality.

I highly doubt that they are just throwing ideas against the wall to see what sticks. They very definitely have ideas in mind and are trying to go with it. Tiering there, tiering taken away, teiring is back.

I guess you enjoy lines. I don't. Not a single person in my family enjoys lines. An hour in line is at least 40 minutes of pure hell. Having a larger family magnifies it. Not everyone even has the same interests. The limit of 3 makes it so not everyone can even ride their favorite ride. The shows (what's left of them) are the same as they have been for years. The shops don't have anything worth browsing--if you've seen one, you've seen it all and it's Walmart quality. The dining isn't superb, never has been, but it used to be the service was good and the atmosphere fun. Rides are all that is left.

Sounds like you really don't enjoy WDW much anyway

 

[PEC]

Ok let me caveat this. I am not a FP+ doomsayer and I have no plans of canceling any planned Disney trips.
That said isn't this becoming a worse version of the old e-ticket system. I know with the old eticket you did not get to skip the line but they gave you I believe 3 etickets. With the current system you get 1 FP+. Look I enjoy prety much every attraction at Disney but I have never needed a FP+ for Figment, BATB, Indiana Jones etc. Sure for some I didnt get a prime seat but I never had a bad seat either. Bottomline I feel I'm being limited to one FP. How much different is that really than old eticket? We have gone full circle.
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[Mad Hattered]

Sounds like you really don't enjoy WDW much anyway

Seriously? That's the best you can come up with? Do people REALLY think there was some sort of underground movement that joined this site at various times in our lives with an ultimate plan to destroy all things Disney?

Your argument is pointless. If we didn't love (or more like sorta somewhat kinda care at this point) then we wouldn't be on this board talking about it. Last night you jumped on MABEE who joined last month and had a total of 16 posts at that time (yes, I did look before you go there) and tonight your snarkiness is pointed at a member with over 5k posts and joined in 2004.

How do you know how much they enjoy WDW? You would never guess that I enjoy(ed?) Disney with your analogies. Fact is...you don't know anyone here....quit putting words in their mouths.

I also feel that a red light at an intersection means you stop. I don't feel it means that 7 cars all continue to make turns in front of me during my green light. I'm lookin' at you, Michigan Avenue. Does that mean I don't like visiting Chicago? You tell me.

 

[distravel]

The sad thing is to think of all the new rides they could've built with 1.5 billion dollars.

Silly Disney, you didn't need to slap a band on everyone's wrists and a + at the end of FastPass to make more money; you only had to build a few more wonderful rides to accommodate more people.

If you'd built it, they would've come...

I'll second that!!! Adding and improving the attractions would have been a much better use of all that money. Why not expand Toy Story Midway Mania across into the building that housed the lame Journey into Narnia show. I know it has a Jack Sparrow attraction now but it is evident that the continued popularity of TSMM warrants an expansion.

With FP+ I was looking forward to arriving later but if all the parks have the tiered system I will still need to get there in the early morning to avoid lines. Hoping they figure it out.

 

[Mad Hattered]

Wow... I just flashed back to the 80's. And not in a good way.

I liked you original post before you edited it and took the truth out of it.

 

[PEC]

Sounds like you really don't enjoy WDW much anyway

What is more weird is for a place tht rt2dz totally criticizes, they talk of spending 12k. For that money if the rides are all you want go to Six Flags and pocket 10K.

 

[Momtomouselover]

So, one person of our party is still waiting for their tickets from UCT. She was going to wait and purchase at the parks but this FP+ thing changed that...anyways, after she gets her tickets and we link them to her profile do you think we will be able to share our FP+ selections? We already chose ours before this tier bit started. We are all on the same reservation.

This constant changing is really making me mad and I'm trying hard not to focus on the negatives. It just is beginning to feel like a bait n' switch since you don't really know what you are going to get.