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I really think the mushy vegetables is an older generation thing. My grandma was the same way. She always said that places only half cooked their vegetables. But she came from a time where they cooked the heck out of everything for fear of getting a food borne illness.
That could be. But to be honest, in recent years, I think I have noticed more under cooked veggies than overcooked in a restaurant setting. Sort of lightly steamed seems to be the trend these days in restaurants. If you are going to cook a veggie, at least cook it a little.
 
Yeah, the cruise industry has been hit by "fast food syndrome". Leisurely dinners used to be as much a part of cruising as being on the ocean. Now folks want quick serve. My first cruise, there was just one seating for dinner. 6 pm. And the 12 course dinner lasted until 930 pm. That is why we have always gotten late seating, even on West Coast cruises, we want a leisurely meal.
Yup. We aren't into 'wham bam, thank you ma'am' style service at a sitdown restaurant. Beyond the food itself, we prefer some background entertainment, a few courses, and a good relaxed atmosphere. Some nights, sure, we would hop over to a buffet or even order room service, but a leisurely meal and great evening entertainment are really what set cruising apart.
 
DCL does cook the vegetables. There isn't any problem with them in my experience of 6 cruises. Vegetables aren't supposed to be soggy.
I feel the same way. To me, if the vegetable doesn’t have some bite to it, it’s overcooked. No mushy veggies please. Definitely seems to be subjective though—I never realized there was such a big divide on vegetable cooking!
 

I feel the same way. To me, if the vegetable doesn’t have some bite to it, it’s overcooked. No mushy veggies please. Definitely seems to be subjective though—I never realized there was such a big divide on vegetable cooking!

9/18 was our 43rd Disney cruise. We were a table of 4 adults and these veg were rock hard. I lightly steam at home so appreciate a veg with some substance but could not eat these. None of us ate the green beans - hard and squeaky. I was the only one who ate any of the asparagus and we had a fine time crunching the carrots. Kind of chalked it up to being the second cruise for the Fantasy in a long time. Hope it is not the wave of the future. Another FYI - they were trying a new dressing in Palo for the salad and wanted to know what we thought. It had a very off taste that none of us could identify. We all sent it back and they did offer to bring something else but we decined.
 
9/18 was our 43rd Disney cruise. We were a table of 4 adults and these veg were rock hard. I lightly steam at home so appreciate a veg with some substance but could not eat these. None of us ate the green beans - hard and squeaky. I was the only one who ate any of the asparagus and we had a fine time crunching the carrots. Kind of chalked it up to being the second cruise for the Fantasy in a long time. Hope it is not the wave of the future. Another FYI - they were trying a new dressing in Palo for the salad and wanted to know what we thought. It had a very off taste that none of us could identify. We all sent it back and they did offer to bring something else but we decined.
This sounds more like they might be having staffing training issues in the kitchen with cruising so recently resumed. Reminds me of last summer at WDW—some of the restaurants were just “off” when they reopened as staff were moved around between roles. That’s too bad.
 
DCL does cook the vegetables. There isn't any problem with them in my experience of 6 cruises. Vegetables aren't supposed to be soggy.
LOL. See to me, cooked vegetables would be close to soggy because......drum roll....they are cooked. Steamed vegetables would be crisp, warmed but closer to raw. Like I said, it appears to the cooking trend to cook veggies less. And for a cruise line it is pretty amazing that they can prepare hundreds of meals without overcooking something.
And there are differences around the world. My son was traveling across Europe and learned in Spain to order chicken well done because the trend was to cook it with pink still in the middle.
 
LOL. See to me, cooked vegetables would be close to soggy because......drum roll....they are cooked. Steamed vegetables would be crisp, warmed but closer to raw. Like I said, it appears to the cooking trend to cook veggies less. And for a cruise line it is pretty amazing that they can prepare hundreds of meals without overcooking something.
And there are differences around the world. My son was traveling across Europe and learned in Spain to order chicken well done because the trend was to cook it with pink still in the middle.
There is an middle ground between crunchy and mushy that is the perfect cook for a vegetable. You don't need to go so far as to have the vegetable lose it's integrity for it to be cooked. My mom used to boil the heck out of vegetables and, not surprisingly, none of us liked vegetables growing up. It was only after I had them cooked properly, meaning not mushy, that I started loving veggies. Anyone who says that they don't like certain veggies should learn how to properly cook them. It makes a huge difference.
 
There is an middle ground between crunchy and mushy that is the perfect cook for a vegetable. You don't need to go so far as to have the vegetable lose it's integrity for it to be cooked. My mom used to boil the heck out of vegetables and, not surprisingly, none of us liked vegetables growing up. It was only after I had them cooked properly, meaning not mushy, that I started loving veggies. Anyone who says that they don't like certain veggies should learn how to properly cook them. It makes a huge difference.
Except kale. Kale is a lost cause.
 
Except kale. Kale is a lost cause.
100% agree with you. Kale is horrendous. It should have stayed as the greenery in the seafood case. I am pretty sure we were not meant to eat kale. Lol
 
Definitely seems to be subjective though—I never realized there was such a big divide on vegetable cooking!

I live this battle every day - my husband's idea of a cooked vegetable is CRISP (ie steamed for 2 seconds)...I like mine a little mushy. I think my son is on the crisp train too...so I just deal with it.

PS. Kale is good in a smoothie - you don't even taste it, I promise!
 
100% agree with you. Kale is horrendous. It should have stayed as the greenery in the seafood case. I am pretty sure we were not meant to eat kale. Lol
I love kale. You probably just haven't had it well prepared. It does need some seasoning, but when it's well made, it's very good.
 
This sounds more like they might be having staffing training issues in the kitchen with cruising so recently resumed. Reminds me of last summer at WDW—some of the restaurants were just “off” when they reopened as staff were moved around between roles. That’s too bad.

I thought this as well or just because there were so many less people on board to serve there was a process that worked for 3 times the meals that did not work for a lesser amount of diners. We figured we were the guines pigs on these early cruises so lack of veg for a few days was a small price to pay to get back on a ship. Any challenges were overshadowed by the sheer joy of being on a ship that was so empty.
 
I love kale. You probably just haven't had it well prepared. It does need some seasoning, but when it's well made, it's very good.
Nah, kale is very bitter. I am a super taster so I taste things more then the average person. I eat a huge variety of food but there are a few that are so off putting to me, no matter how they are prepared. I love onions, garlic, broccoli, cabbage, etc but to me, kale, brussel sprouts, and avocados are horrible.
 
I feel the same way. To me, if the vegetable doesn’t have some bite to it, it’s overcooked. No mushy veggies please. Definitely seems to be subjective though—I never realized there was such a big divide on vegetable cooking!
Unfortunately, it seems there is a big divide over everything these days, go figure.
 
I love kale. You probably just haven't had it well prepared. It does need some seasoning, but when it's well made, it's very good.
I have had a couple of people say the same thing. To the point they brought me samples. Nope. Still kale, not fit for human consumption
 

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