thoughts about contract extension

Jenn504

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Any thoughts about contract extensions on some of 2042. I am trying to decide where to buy but can't justify to hubby buying at a resort that expires years before some of the others. Would like to buy resale at WL, or BCV but I leaning toward AKL because of the longer contract. Is there any rumors or past history with OKW they could offer. thanks
 
If you are looking for OKW, there are contracts extended to 2057 that are up for resale. I understand Disney also has a deal right now at $90/point for OKW, expiring 2057.

Good luck!
 
There has been no announcement one way or the other for any resort other than OKW. I don't think the OKW extension went as smoothly, or was as well received, as they had hoped.
 
Funny, today I just asked my guide the exact same thing about BCV and BWV b/c I would love to buy there (but the 2042 date is definitely a deterrent). All he said was that is an "unknown". We want to add-on in the next year and leaning more towards OKW b/c of the 2057 date. But really hoping they make an announcement that the 2042 contracts can be extended... soon!!!

I bet the guides get asked that question constantly!
 

But there is another consideration to extending the remaining 2042 resorts at WDW. They are associated with a cash resort..they share facilities and amenities. What if Disney, want to close and rehab the cash side, or even sell the operation of it? Extending the contract could hinder their future plans for the property.
 
Why did the okw extenstion not go as smooth. Do you have any insight to OKW, how much per point or how many people took advantage. That is a good thought about the other resort being attached.
 
Those are definitely good points, Chuck. I heard the price was $25/point which is why many people did not take advantage. It's hard to fork out that much cash (in addition to the MFs) for an extra 15 years.
 
they wanted to charge $25 per pt for points that could not be used for 35 years. (they did discount it initially to $15 per pt.) a lot of us decided that we'd prefer to buy a smaller number of pts in an add-on that we could use immediately rather than pay a premium like that for points that would be available in 2042.

when those who paid $15-25 per pt went to sell their extended OKW contracts, they found out buyers were only willing to pay a $5-7 premium for extended contracts.

if you want to buy at BCV or VWL, buy there. even if DVC decides to extend, there is no guarantee that the price to extend will be reasonable.

besides, you'll most likely be in a better position to decide whether a 50 year old BCV is still worth the money in 2035 or so...
 
Why did the okw extenstion not go as smooth. Do you have any insight to OKW, how much per point or how many people took advantage. That is a good thought about the other resort being attached.
Too expensive for points too far into the future and simply done poorly. No one knows if they'll offer an extension, I certainly wouldn't buy assuming they will. Even if they do, it's unlikely to be cheap enough to justify the extension if the OKW experience is at all predictive.
 
What Charles and Dean just said. We were amused, but not interested, at $15 per point and I can't imagine paying $25.

I'm sure folks who paid an extra $15 per point and then watched OKW resale prices drop are having second thoughts.

To pay $90 with the extension when OKW is selling resale in the upper $60's also strikes me as unwise.
 
IMO $8 pp was about the ceiling for this to be successful, $5 would have been even better to get enough participation. I also feel they would have been better off taking another approach or giving the option, an extension for those that added on retail.
 
Those are definitely good points, Chuck. I heard the price was $25/point which is why many people did not take advantage. It's hard to fork out that much cash (in addition to the MFs) for an extra 15 years.

Plus, considering what we would have had to pay per point to extend our two OKW contracts, we can purchase an add-on that is already has the extension and enjoy the benefits now.
 
FWIW - Last summer the Guide at Doorway to Dreams in Chicago told us with utmost confidence, "Oh, they'll extend all the sold out resorts, don't worry about that."

I did ask for that in writing, but didn't get it. :rotfl:

He was an enthusiast all around, and a salesman to the bone. But had been with DVC for years and seemed to honestly believe that this was what would happen. Take that with the very large grain of salt it ought to come with.
 
you'll most likely be in a better position to decide whether a 50 year old BCV is still worth the money in 2035 or so...
BCV didn't open until 2002. It would only be 33 years old in 2035. I agree... it would be much easier making the decision closer to the end of the contract.
 
Your age is also a consideration. I am 50 now, in 2042 I will be 82. I will most likely sell it before then. I've been a member about 10 years, I feel I already got my money's worth so I am not concerned about the resale prices dropping as time goes on.
 
Your age is also a consideration. I am 50 now, in 2042 I will be 82. I will most likely sell it before then. I've been a member about 10 years, I feel I already got my money's worth so I am not concerned about the resale prices dropping as time goes on.
Ahh... 1977 was a very good year, yes?:laughing: Obviously, I am the same age as you. And as a BWV owner, I to will be selling before 2042. I will not be entertaining any extension.
 
BCV didn't open until 2002. It would only be 33 years old in 2035. I agree... it would be much easier making the decision closer to the end of the contract.
True, but no one knows if the option will be available, and if it is, whether it'll be reasonable. It's unlikely that it will be financially feasible to try to sell any of the resorts for just 15 years or so as that time draws near. I actually think DVC would have been better off just putting it up for vote to extend for the extra 15 years and doing so for free. Even for free, their still getting a significant benefit is sales of other resorts and reduced fees at existing resorts. Assuming they get say 50% of OKW resold, their options are pretty limited as to what to do with the resort in 2042. I doubt they'll be able to rent it for sufficient villas and $$ to make that feasible, esp given they're already trying to rent club villas there and other resorts as well. Most likely they'd just close down part of the resort at places like OKW but that will result in higher fees due to the lower denominator.

Your age is also a consideration. I am 50 now, in 2042 I will be 82. I will most likely sell it before then. I've been a member about 10 years, I feel I already got my money's worth so I am not concerned about the resale prices dropping as time goes on.
In a sense yes, however, there is an underlying inherent value of an extended resort, just unlikely to be enough to make up the cost of the extension based on the OKW experience. I would estimate that inherent value to be in the $5 pp range up to a max of around $8 pp.

As I noted previously, I think they would have been better off tying the extension to other options such as free with an add on or other benefits like park passes, fast passes, etc.
 
The contract length was a consideration for me too but when I thought about it I will be in my 60's when this ends. If I bought a longer one I would be in my late 70's. That is just too far in the future to look and not buy where I really want to spend the next 30. If we add on perhaps we will add on at somewhere with a longer contract and as others have said enjoy the benefit now. I don't think the contract should be the one deciding factor. It was not enough to sway me as all of the top places I wanted VWL, BCV or BW ended in the same year and I did not want to get OKW or SSR instead.
 
I had a thought... if you have kids you might want a longer contract so they get to enjoy it. We have 2 kids and I want them each to have a longer contract to inherit some day!
 
We are in our mid 40s and after looking at the out of pocket price to extend we decided that for the money we could add on more points to use with our kids now. I am sure when our kids get older and have families of their own 1-2 trips to WDW a year will change so why not enjoy them now. Who knows what our health will be when we get older so the prospect of extending just did not make good financial sense to us.
 















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