This just isn't right

[G8r4evr]

A POSSIBLE discount is a listed as a benefit NO WHERE is it listed as one of the guarantees of an AP.
People have always been told that buy it for the admission or not at all. but many keep buying for the AP discount on rooms and if it is not available get mad.
Read the fine print people!

Benefit vs gaurantee. Talk about semantics....

 

[thymed]

You should buy an AP if you plan on going to Disney quite often. You shouldn't buy it to get room discounts. That is not what it is for. Disney does not have to put out codes or AP discount rates, and if they are already filling their rooms, why should they? It wouldn't make sense. Pick the resort that you can afford, without a code or an AP rate. Then if one comes out, you can upgrade resorts.

There are so many posts lately where people seem to feel entitled to a Disney vacation, or that Disney owes it to them to be able to afford to go. Where did that attitude come from?

Wow, I do not feel Disney owes me anything. I am stating that I have been an AP holder for three years and have visited the resort over 12 times and had two cruises. I have spent a ton of money and have paid full price for rooms during peak times. I bought the AP because we do visit alot (especially living 16 hours away from the magic). I am disgusted and will continue to be that they tend to cater and coddle only people buying the MYW tickets. I am a Disney Rewards Card holder since DAY 1 and am a member in very good standing but when they give me 0% interest for 6 months on only one day of a room reservation (because I did not buy a MYW ticket) I think that is a rip off. I stayed last month for 10 days at a moderate resort and am returning next week for another week. I feel I am a loyal Disney customer , and as a business owner I know that you should appreciate your loyal customers. There is nothing wrong with offering incentives to gain new customers but you should not ignore the ones who prove themselves loyal over and over again.

 

[Mickiethepooh]

Benefit vs gaurantee. Talk about semantics....

The most important word there was POSSIBLE. as in possible discount rate.

 

[Minnie&Nana]

You should buy an AP if you plan on going to Disney quite often. You shouldn't buy it to get room discounts. That is not what it is for. Disney does not have to put out codes or AP discount rates, and if they are already filling their rooms, why should they? It wouldn't make sense. Pick the resort that you can afford, without a code or an AP rate. Then if one comes out, you can upgrade resorts.

There are so many posts lately where people seem to feel entitled to a Disney vacation, or that Disney owes it to them to be able to afford to go. Where did that attitude come from?

I am always amazed at how people can throw all manners aside and be so insensitive to others.

Why, oh why, does anyone care if someone hopes for a discount room rate with an AP? If the posts are bothersome, please go on to another thread rather then being unkind.

We all come here because we enjoy things Disney, especially visiting WDW - why not support one another? So many other things are so much more important...unkindness is so unnecessary under any circumstance, but especially here.

I am sure you must have written out of frustration, not intentionally meaning to be unkind.

 

[G8r4evr]

I am always amazed at how people can throw all manners aside and be so insensitive to others.

Why, oh why, does anyone care if someone hopes for a discount room rate with an AP? If the posts are bothersome, please go on to another thread rather then being unkind.

We all come here because we enjoy things Disney, especially visiting WDW - why not support one another? So many other things are so much more important...unkindness is so unnecessary under any circumstance, but especially here.

I am sure you must have written out of frustration, not intentionally meaning to be unkind.

I often wonder if Maxie works for Disney PR

 

[G8r4evr]

The most important word there was POSSIBLE. as in possible discount rate.

That should make AP Holders everywhere feel MUCH better

 

[Minnie&Nana]

I often wonder if Maxie works for Disney PR

 

[maxiesmom]

I'm not sure what in my post could be thought of as insensitive or unkind. There have been many posts, not just the ones here, complaining about the lack of discounts this year. If the only reason you are buying an AP is for the discount, then you are buying it for the wrong reason! It is not a Disney Discount Card. It is park admission. And with it, sometimes you can get a few perks. But discounted hotel rates are not guaranteed to be part of the deal.

It makes more sense to book the resort you can afford, not book one that you hope you will be able to afford, if Disney decides to discount it enough.
Was I disappointed that the AP rates seemed so small this year. Yes. And do I understand others being disappointed? Yes. But that is not what this thread was about. This thread was about how people feel that Disney owes them a better discount than what they were given. And Disney does not owe us anything when it comes to how much a vacation costs.

Many businesses offer better discounts to people who are new customers, then what they give loyal customers. Cable and internet are great examples of this. Disney is not alone in it. So why do so many people feel Disney is out to get them?

 

[RachelTori]

I'm not sure what in my post could be thought of as insensitive or unkind. There have been many posts, not just the ones here, complaining about the lack of discounts this year. If the only reason you are buying an AP is for the discount, then you are buying it for the wrong reason! It is not a Disney Discount Card. It is park admission. And with it, sometimes you can get a few perks. But discounted hotel rates are not guaranteed to be part of the deal.

It makes more sense to book the resort you can afford, not book one that you hope you will be able to afford, if Disney decides to discount it enough.
Was I disappointed that the AP rates seemed so small this year. Yes. And do I understand others being disappointed? Yes. But that is not what this thread was about. This thread was about how people feel that Disney owes them a better discount than what they were given. And Disney does not owe us anything when it comes to how much a vacation costs.

Many businesses offer better discounts to people who are new customers, then what they give loyal customers. Cable and internet are great examples of this. Disney is not alone in it. So why do so many people feel Disney is out to get them?

But we're not talking about "cable" or "internet" companies here. Disney is the only resort destination I can think of that doesn't have some type of "rewards" program for frequent guests.

And Disney clearly changed the rules without any notice concerning those 12/23 rates. It doesn't affect me this year, but I still want to stand with my fellow DISers who are upset and let Disney know we don't appreciate it.

 

[maxiesmom]

But we're not talking about "cable" or "internet" companies here. Disney is the only resort destination I can think of that doesn't have some type of "rewards" program for frequent guests.

You are right, they don't. And the problem is that people were using their APs as some sort of reward program, which is not what it is for. And now that Disney is able to fill their resorts without offering deep discounts, people are realizing it. You should be happy if you get a good discount, but when you expect it, you are setting yourself up to be disappointed.

 

[marivaid]

I guess I'm the only one who is very thankful for the AP discounts in the fall & December.

We have 3 nights at POP, 3 nights at AKL, 5 nights at ASMU, all at AP rate. Saving about $400 altogether, plus we're getting $95 worth of dining cards.

The rates were announced almost 2 weeks ago. I booked the AKL stay around 10am that morning, by 2pm the resort was sold out for our dates.
The key is too act fast!

Did you try a different resort ? I also tried booking a value for 1 night and the only one I could have gotten was ASports. Seems like there's minimum # of nights for Music & Movies but not Sports.

 

[Minnie&Nana]

I guess I'm the only one who is very thankful for the AP discounts in the fall & December.

I think loads of guests are thankful for the codes, but for some it gets very discouraging when they call and call yet are unable to get one for their travel dates.

When the discounts are very limited,as CM's told us for all discount codes in the last couple of weeks, many guests cannot call until after work and find nothing left. So they are understandably disappointed and frustrated.

All that can be done is to keep trying - I check on line and call when possible - yesterday a few things opened up and we now have 2 reservations for 2 ngts each - the CM encouraged us to book two so we could get the dining card for the last 2 nights. So, it will be nice to have that $50 dining card! Still hoping for another view to open up and will change if it does, but will be perfectly happy with what we have

 

[wdwmaw]

You are right, they don't. And the problem is that people were using their APs as some sort of reward program, which is not what it is for. And now that Disney is able to fill their resorts without offering deep discounts, people are realizing it. You should be happy if you get a good discount, but when you expect it, you are setting yourself up to be disappointed.

I just want to start by saying I am sorry if I am offending someone. I am very thankful for what I am getting and will travel anyway.I was not usuing my AP as some sort of reward program. I was upset that they changed the rules without notice. The point is that they filled up those rooms based on bounceback program, pin codes, visa offer then AP holders ! The bounce back was offered with 40% off as a pkg. I was no where expedcting that just being treated fairly. It is not fair that I could check in the 19th for 11 nights and have a cheaper rate than check-in the 23rd for 8 nights on an AP rate. Change the rules for one do it for all ( sorry those of you that can do that). They are only doing the new system for those wishing for a discount. My gripe is that they are making me pay day to day pricing (there words) yet they will not apply a rate available online for one particular day to my reservation. They want me to check-in/out 3 x in order to apply discount to each of my nights. One reservation through the phone, one reservation through on-line, and another through the phone, come on . Arent these practices why credit cards and blockbuster went to court and ruled against. Disclose what your practices really are. Not available when it is is my gripe. I feel sorry for the CRO agents they really seem to be as upset and as lost as we all are and I don't think they like it and can do nothing about it.I have ended several phone calls with, "thats OK you really tried".

 

[applechips]

So, it will be nice to have that $50 dining card! Still hoping for another view to open up and will change if it does, but will be perfectly happy with what we have

What is this dining card I keep seeing?

thanks!

 

[marivaid]

What is this dining card I keep seeing?

thanks!

There's an AP holder offer right now for certain nights where you can get a free dining card with your room reservation. $20 for values, $50 for mods, $75 for Deluxes and I think $100 for DVC resorts. You need to stay at least 2 nights and it's only available on specific dates.

 

[Sammie]

I just want to start by saying I am sorry if I am offending someone. I am very thankful for what I am getting and will travel anyway.I was not usuing my AP as some sort of reward program. I was upset that they changed the rules without notice. The point is that they filled up those rooms based on bounceback program, pin codes, visa offer then AP holders ! The bounce back was offered with 40% off as a pkg. I was no where expedcting that just being treated fairly. It is not fair that I could check in the 19th for 11 nights and have a cheaper rate than check-in the 23rd for 8 nights on an AP rate. Change the rules for one do it for all ( sorry those of you that can do that). They are only doing the new system for those wishing for a discount. My gripe is that they are making me pay day to day pricing (there words) yet they will not apply a rate available online for one particular day to my reservation. They want me to check-in/out 3 x in order to apply discount to each of my nights. One reservation through the phone, one reservation through on-line, and another through the phone, come on . Arent these practices why credit cards and blockbuster went to court and ruled against. Disclose what your practices really are. Not available when it is is my gripe. I feel sorry for the CRO agents they really seem to be as upset and as lost as we all are and I don't think they like it and can do nothing about it.I have ended several phone calls with, "thats OK you really tried".

No disrespect at all, I just do not see any logic to your arguement, only a sense of you thinking Disney owes you something.

All discounts are subject to availablity, and subject to change. That is understood and they do not have to give you any notice.

Your AP entitles you to 365 days of admission to the parks, nothing else. If you are disappointed over anything other than admission, you set yourself up for that disappointment not Disney.

Something else I think some are missing is that you are assuming that an AP holder is Disney's most loyal customers. That is not necessarily accurate.

Disney makes more money off big spenders who come and stay for a shorter time period and get an all inclusive package with room at rack rate, and tickets and dining than they ever do on an AP holder.

If you sit down and figure up how much you save on ticket admission with an AP even if you on use it for 10 days, I can't see how any could complain about not getting thier money's worth or Disney taking advantage of them.

Companies reward loyal customers to keep them away from the competetion. Disney has very little competition and therefore very little in the way of a loyality program, as they don't need it.

I am truly sorry you are so distressed, keep trying back, cancellations do happen and something might open up.

If you truly feel Disney is not offering you the best deal, go elsewhere.

 

[G8r4evr]

There's an AP holder offer right now for certain nights where you can get a free dining card with your room reservation. $20 for values, $50 for mods, $75 for Deluxes and I think $100 for DVC resorts. You need to stay at least 2 nights and it's only available on specific dates.

Yep, I just booked using the Fles Res code (AKL for 10/19 - 10/21) and found out that my dates were blacked out for the free dining card. Go figure. The code is available, but only half the perks were.

 

[Sammie]

I often wonder if Maxie works for Disney PR

No actually I think Maxie thinks with her head and less with emotions.

 

[Minnie&Nana]

What is this dining card I keep seeing?

thanks!

If you are a passholder, go to www.disneyworld.com/passholder and after you sign in, there will be "special offers" - one of those is the dining card (as marivaid posted) for specific check-in dates.

 

[G8r4evr]

No actually I think Maxie thinks with her head and less with emotions.

If coming across as being rude to other posters is "thinking with your head", then I guess you are right.