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[PrincessInOz]

Yeah. I do think that's why so many kids nowadays have asthma and allergies, because people bathe in hand sanitizer. I mean, what's your immune system for if not to fight off infections? If you don't give it something to fight, it weakens.

I so completely agree. I'm pretty sure that this was why one of my nephew's (first born) developed allergies.

And don't even get me started about parents insisting on keeping the house completely dark and silent when the baby sleeps. I believe that's why so many of the babies have sleeping issues...they wake at the slightest noise.



The first thing I did when we got home was to put DS in his cot and start the washing machine. The laundry is right next to his room and I couldn't contemplate not ever running the washing machine if DS was asleep. So, he had to get used to the noise and rhythm from the moment he came home.

 

[skiingfast]

I can see a new use for bubble wrap.

 

[DisneyFirefly]

I so completely agree. I'm pretty sure that this was why one of my nephew's (first born) developed allergies.

And don't even get me started about parents insisting on keeping the house completely dark and silent when the baby sleeps. I believe that's why so many of the babies have sleeping issues...they wake at the slightest noise.

The first thing I did when we got home was to put DS in his cot and start the washing machine. The laundry is right next to his room and I couldn't contemplate not ever running the washing machine if DS was asleep. So, he had to get used to the noise and rhythm from the moment he came home.

Honestly, at this point, I'm just hoping she realizes how much she's overreacting. I do understand why she's spazzing out (new mom who's miscarried in the past), but she's going to freak herself out even more if she doesn't calm down. I don't know what they're going to do when the baby comes and they both have to go back to work, since they can't afford to only have her husband working. Her schedule fluctuates between days and nights, and he works nights. So... Yeah. Don't know what they're going to do, but that's on them. Every time I suggest she look into something, she shoots it down.

 

[PrincessInOz]

Well, aside from making the suggestions and being shot down in flames, there's not much you can do.

I hope your friendship survives the baby. I had DS later than most of my girlfriends' did for their children. It wasn't the lack of trying on my part and I think (at least I hope) that I listened with sufficient rapt interest at their baby babble over their gifted children at the time. Sadly, except for two friends...most of them let the children take over their lives. I do see some of them from time to time but it's sad to hear them complain about how they wished they had waited to have children...and that's in earshot of their kids.

 

[queenie82]

Over sanitisation is certainly an element in allergies.
Having a big backyard we were always outside but my mum did bubblewrap me plenty of otherways.
I know my allergies are partly 'inherited' though as my dad gets a couple of similar issues. But others just are. And being from combo European heritage living in an Aussie climate exacerbates things.

I honestly wouldn't bother telling her off. Just ignore her.

If she doesn't listen to people with kids why would she listen to you??
( and that's no comment on you or your knowledge. Just a general thing of....you haven't had a child...)

 

[skiingfast]

Good Night everyone sleep well when you time comes.

 

[DisneyFirefly]

Well, aside from making the suggestions and being shot down in flames, there's not much you can do.

I hope your friendship survives the baby. I had DS later than most of my girlfriends' did for their children. It wasn't the lack of trying on my part and I think (at least I hope) that I listened with sufficient rapt interest at their baby babble over their gifted children at the time. Sadly, except for two friends...most of them let the children take over their lives. I do see some of them from time to time but it's sad to hear them complain about how they wished they had waited to have children...and that's in earshot of their kids.

Yeah, me too. She's my best friend and I really do hope we at least stay friends, even if it's not as close as we used to be. I don't know, though.

Over sanitisation is certainly an element in allergies.
Having a big backyard we were always outside but my mum did bubblewrap me plenty of otherways.
I know my allergies are partly 'inherited' though as my dad gets a couple of similar issues. But others just are. And being from combo European heritage living in an Aussie climate exacerbates things.

I honestly wouldn't bother telling her off. Just ignore her.

If she doesn't listen to people with kids why would she listen to you??
( and that's no comment on you or your knowledge. Just a general thing of....you haven't had a child...)

I know some of it is genetic as well, but there has been a staggering jump in asthma and allergies in this generation of children and it's been theorized (but not proven) that it has to do with oversanitization. At least I can admit it's just a theory

Most of the time when I talk to her about something specific (like the traveling thing), it's after talking to my mom or my sister's godfather's wife, who's been a maternity nurse for 18 years. But yeah, because I haven't had a kid, gotten married, gotten engaged, there have been a lot of times in our friendship where she's completely dismissed my attempts to help. I'm kind of used to being ignored.

 

[franandaj]

oh gawd.

That sounds like sooooooo much fun!

Why are you guys being audited?!

Yucky

Night all, it's off to work early in the morning.

Probably something to do with the fact that the business hasn't made money in years...the fact that the employees are our friends, we have hundreds of thousands of dollars of inventory to unload, and that we don't want our conductor to leave (and have to replace him, part of the reason we hired him in the first place) aren't valid reasons for the IRS for us to stay in business. I think this will be the year that we finally donate all the music on hand to some school or charity, and remodel the apartment and start making money off of it.

Good night Angela!

Signal Hill? Hmmm to shoot them or set them afire?

WHATTTTT!!!!!! Neither! It's just a little bit more rural than Long Beach, what with all those oil derricks and open fields.

Yeah. I do think that's why so many kids nowadays have asthma and allergies, because people bathe in hand sanitizer. I mean, what's your immune system for if not to fight off infections? If you don't give it something to fight, it weakens.

Yeah, I remember when some kid died of ecoli, some people in Central California that we were talking to (when visiting Arline) said, "if he lived on our farm, he never would have died from something like that." I mean when I was a kid, we ate dirt. Not intentionally, it just happened. For whatever reason I seem to have a pretty high immune system, it's rare that I get sick.

Fran's mom was one of those freaky moms back in the 50s. I wonder if that's why she developed RA. No immunity developed because of all the wiping, cleaning and overly desanitizing!

 

[PrincessInOz]

Good Night everyone sleep well when you time comes.

Good night.

Yeah, me too. She's my best friend and I really do hope we at least stay friends, even if it's not as close as we used to be. I don't know, though.



I know some of it is genetic as well, but there has been a staggering jump in asthma and allergies in this generation of children and it's been theorized (but not proven) that it has to do with oversanitization. At least I can admit it's just a theory

Most of the time when I talk to her about something specific (like the traveling thing), it's after talking to my mom or my sister's godfather's wife, who's been a maternity nurse for 18 years. But yeah, because I haven't had a kid, gotten married, gotten engaged, there have been a lot of times in our friendship where she's completely dismissed my attempts to help. I'm kind of used to being ignored.

Not ignored on the Dis.

 

[PrincessInOz]

And in keeping with our eclectic discussions....

Anyone else hear about this little Aussie?

http://www.theage.com.au/world/little-boy-lost-a-25year-odyssey-20120323-1vp65.html

 

[DisneyFirefly]

Probably something to do with the fact that the business hasn't made money in years...the fact that the employees are our friends, we have hundreds of thousands of dollars of inventory to unload, and that we don't want our conductor to leave (and have to replace him, part of the reason we hired him in the first place) aren't valid reasons for the IRS for us to stay in business. I think this will be the year that we finally donate all the music on hand to some school or charity, and remodel the apartment and start making money off of it.

Yeah, I remember when some kid died of ecoli, some people in Central California that we were talking to (when visiting Arline) said, "if he lived on our farm, he never would have died from something like that." I mean when I was a kid, we ate dirt. Not intentionally, it just happened. For whatever reason I seem to have a pretty high immune system, it's rare that I get sick.

Fran's mom was one of those freaky moms back in the 50s. I wonder if that's why she developed RA. No immunity developed because of all the wiping, cleaning and overly desanitizing!

I hope you guys get everything sorted out

I honestly don't really like to theorize much about health issues, since I'm not a doctor or researcher, but this just makes sense. I mean, your immune system is there for a reason. What's it going to do but wither if you never give it germs to fight against and develop immunities for?

Not ignored on the Dis.

I know That's why I love hanging out here. No matter what's going on, if I need to talk, there's almost always someone hanging out on this thread. And if no one's available, I can PM you or Alison and you get back to me pretty quickly. With Jacquie, I hear from her maybe once or twice a month unless she wants something from me. When I need to talk to her, she never answers her phone, responds to texts, or gets back to me on Facebook. The only thing she's gotten back to me about lately was this coming Wednesday, when I'm going out by her to help her and her husband move into a new apartment.

 

[PrincessInOz]

Just remember that you have your own life when Jacqui's baby comes along. Hope she doesn't get you to help her out too much.

 

[DisneyFirefly]

Well, it helps that I don't have a car and can't easily get out there to babysit. So me helping in certain ways would actually require some finagling.

I just remember how about a year ago, when I was having a really really hard time emotionally and tried repeatedly to get a hold of her, she never called me back. This went on for about three weeks until I finally broke down in front of my mom and SHE called Jacquie and left her a voice mail. Jacquie called back two minutes later.

 

[franandaj]

And in keeping with our eclectic discussions....

Anyone else hear about this little Aussie?

http://www.theage.com.au/world/little-boy-lost-a-25year-odyssey-20120323-1vp65.html

Wow! That's insane, very slumdog millionaire like, but with a happy ending. I was crying. How sweet that he finally found his family.

That's very sad about your friends who didn't wait to have kids. I've lost touch with all the people who were getting married around the time that I was in that situation, but I have a number of younger friends who are all new parents or becoming parents. Luckily they all waited until they had "done a few things" before jumping in. The 3D friends that I have with a baby bring him to rehearsals and all kinds of other things, and I don't think they handle him with bubble wrap, though I doubt he eats much dirt!

 

[PrincessInOz]

Well, it helps that I don't have a car and can't easily get out there to babysit. So me helping in certain ways would actually require some finagling.

I just remember how about a year ago, when I was having a really really hard time emotionally and tried repeatedly to get a hold of her, she never called me back. This went on for about three weeks until I finally broke down in front of my mom and SHE called Jacquie and left her a voice mail. Jacquie called back two minutes later.

Wow! That's insane, very slumdog millionaire like, but with a happy ending. I was crying. How sweet that he finally found his family.

That's very sad about your friends who didn't wait to have kids. I've lost touch with all the people who were getting married around the time that I was in that situation, but I have a number of younger friends who are all new parents or becoming parents. Luckily they all waited until they had "done a few things" before jumping in. The 3D friends that I have with a baby bring him to rehearsals and all kinds of other things, and I don't think they handle him with bubble wrap, though I doubt he eats much dirt!

I know. I decided that I needed to see less of the 4 girlfriends that did this when it became a %# session about how their lives with kids sucked. I still see them about once a year ... separately ..... so that I can divert the conversation a little.

 

[PrincessInOz]

Dinner time here.

If I don't catch you later, sleep well all. Two full-on days at work coming up for me. So, I'll be pulliing night shift duties on the Dis. Catch you all on Thursday.

 

[queenie82]

Yeah, me too. She's my best friend and I really do hope we at least stay friends, even if it's not as close as we used to be. I don't know, though.



I know some of it is genetic as well, but there has been a staggering jump in asthma and allergies in this generation of children and it's been theorized (but not proven) that it has to do with oversanitization. At least I can admit it's just a theory

Most of the time when I talk to her about something specific (like the traveling thing), it's after talking to my mom or my sister's godfather's wife, who's been a maternity nurse for 18 years. But yeah, because I haven't had a kid, gotten married, gotten engaged, there have been a lot of times in our friendship where she's completely dismissed my attempts to help. I'm kind of used to being ignored.

it always Hurts but at any time that line can come out. You haven't a kid.
I don't doubt you would go out of your way to give accurate info and advise. It's just hard.
Especially in the medical where they barely understand the human brain still.
My doctor is great because she advises on fact, experience and her own 'theories'
She is a GP but as a first stop she'd be a great one for your friend. Your friend might not listen. But the doc would do a great talk.

Hope she settles sooner rather than later. But it can be more calming if you just try and force her to discuss everything but. Be the 'non baby' friend???

I dunno...

 

[franandaj]

I hope you guys get everything sorted out

I honestly don't really like to theorize much about health issues, since I'm not a doctor or researcher, but this just makes sense. I mean, your immune system is there for a reason. What's it going to do but wither if you never give it germs to fight against and develop immunities for?

I know That's why I love hanging out here. No matter what's going on, if I need to talk, there's almost always someone hanging out on this thread. And if no one's available, I can PM you or Alison and you get back to me pretty quickly. With Jacquie, I hear from her maybe once or twice a month unless she wants something from me. When I need to talk to her, she never answers her phone, responds to texts, or gets back to me on Facebook. The only thing she's gotten back to me about lately was this coming Wednesday, when I'm going out by her to help her and her husband move into a new apartment.

Actually since she never had germs, I think it just decided it was bored and started attacking itself! Not really funny, but that's my defense mechanism. If I can't laugh at something dire, what can I do when I can't fix it.

I had 3D friends like that and that is one reason I don't have very many close 3D friends any more. I got sick of being the one keeping up the friendship. Oh yeah and the ones who backstab you. Between those two, Fran and I are wary of making much more than acquantances.

OK, time to sign off, or at least switch to the phone in bed. I"m tired and we have to get cracking on the taxes tomorrow.

 

[DisneyFirefly]

it always Hurts but at any time that line can come out. You haven't a kid.
I don't doubt you would go out of your way to give accurate info and advise. It's just hard.
Especially in the medical where they barely understand the human brain still.
My doctor is great because she advises on fact, experience and her own 'theories'
She is a GP but as a first stop she'd be a great one for your friend. Your friend might not listen. But the doc would do a great talk.

Hope she settles sooner rather than later. But it can be more calming if you just try and force her to discuss everything but. Be the 'non baby' friend???

I dunno...

Like I said, I'm used to being ignored by her right now. Even if I try to talk to her about anything but the baby, she brings it back to the pregnancy and how she can't do this, can't do that, blah blah blah. She's been essentially ignoring me for years except when it's convenient for her or she needs me for something. It comes and goes, but she's usually not there.

Actually since she never had germs, I think it just decided it was bored and started attacking itself! Not really funny, but that's my defense mechanism. If I can't laugh at something dire, what can I do when I can't fix it.

I had 3D friends like that and that is one reason I don't have very many close 3D friends any more. I got sick of being the one keeping up the friendship. Oh yeah and the ones who backstab you. Between those two, Fran and I are wary of making much more than acquantances.

OK, time to sign off, or at least switch to the phone in bed. I"m tired and we have to get cracking on the taxes tomorrow.

If I remember right, that's one of the theories about lupus, too, actually. I dunno, though. Like I said, I'm not a doctor.

I know that she and I are in different places in life and it seems like that's why she doesn't talk to me much anymore.

I should probably get to bed myself. Talk to you guys in the morning

 

[PrincessInOz]

Good night North America. Sweet dreams of lifelong friends and balanced tax books.