This is the "change" he promised?

[The Mayor]

Saw on the news this morning that it's pretty much a shoe-in that Hillary will be SoS. And with a lot of Clinton era retreads being considered for other positions, this is the change from the old Washington ways Obama was talking about?

Really???

The more things change the more they stay the same...Jimmy Carter ran his campaign on the platform of change also

 

[JLKennedy]

Hillary is the same-old same old from a past administration? Could someone remind me what position she held in Bill Clinton's administration again? I must have forgotten.

Wasn't she the President under Bill's administration?

 

[Wonderlandmom]

But he is pretty good at it, you have to give him that.

Yep! 2 years worth of it, he has to be!

 

[Suzie Zoo]

OMG, will you people get over it!

I think some of you are forgetting that Hillary has a history that we can look at. She doesn't exactly have the support of the entire state of New York. I don't have a single problem saying that I hope she makes a better Secretary of Statethan she did a senator. Because I thought was lousy and I'm not the only one.

If that consitutes "not giving her a chance", then so be it.

 

[ClarabelleCowFan]

Wasn't she the President under Bill's administration?

 

[Chicago526]

Wasn't she the President under Bill's administration?

okay, i don't care who you are, that there was funny!

 

[Kathi OD]

okay, i don't care who you are, that there was funny!

Not only was it funny, but many people believe it to be more truth than fiction!

 

[eliza61]

That was just one instance, he has talked numerious times about needing more than just 4 years to do what he wants to do to us. It seams like they always want to talk about 10 year plans as well, so if it doesn't happen they aren't to blame, because well the next guy didn't finish the plan.

Or it could mean that the current administration has left us in such an absolute mess that it will take the next 40 years to recover. Which I would be inclined to believe more.

 

[Master Mason]

It's hard to get over it when your 401 is in the tank and you're on the unemployment line.

Not really, my 401 tanked and I am unemployed. The same people that are pissing and moaning because some question Obama before he even gets in office are the same ones that are pissing and moaning because Bush got elected, and then are telling those upset about Obama's election to get over it. Well if they want people to get over Obama being elected, perhaps they should start with themselves and get over Bush being elected.

 

[Master Mason]

Or it could mean that the current administration has left us in such an absolute mess that it will take the next 40 years to recover. Which I would be inclined to believe more.

I have more optomism than that, Carter left us in a pretty big mess and it didn't take 40 years for us to recover. Hoover left us in a pretty big mess and it didn't take us 40 years to recover. Grant left us in a pretty big mess and it didn't take us 40 years to recover.

 

[JLKennedy]

okay, i don't care who you are, that there was funny!

Not only was it funny, but many people believe it to be more truth than fiction!

Thanks, just trying to make some laugh, I'm waiting for the "no you idiot, she wasn't President" posts to come....

 

[goofyernmost]

Get over it???

Um... no.

Wait for the change you say? I think we can see that not much has changed.

You must be used to instant gratification. How does one make changes before they get the power? Is it done with mirrors?

Not when you're filling your cabinet posts with all the old Washington insiders. So much for change. Guess all we have left is hope!

Clinton's possible moral behavior aside, that was one smart "outsider" with no Washington experience that continuously out smarted and out maneuvered all the "good old boys" in Washington. That isn't the thing I wanted changed. I wanted the Bush years to be cleansed from our government.

Huh? Did Obama get sworn in and I missed it?

How about waiting until the man is actually in office before you start complaining?

That's all I'm saying!

So we can't express how he is picking the members of his cabinet and how it doesn't look like change, until he gets in office?

That is also what I'm saying.

Well, geez, people do have a right to post their opinions here. YOU need to get over it. When Obama campaigned with the "change" theme, I took that to mean a "change" from the Bush/Republican administration. I guess change is kind of a general term and could possibly be interpreted in different ways. I support Obama and I do hope he can "change" things for the better of our country. You act like anyone who didn't support Obama should just sit back and keep their mouth shut. We do have freedom of speech in this country and are allowed to voice our honest opinions openly.

I am not saying that if you didn't support Obama you have to keep your mouth closed. What I said was, creating an argument based on impossible expectations is just arguing with oneself. It is only to be negative about something that cannot possibly have happened yet. Opinion is OK as long as some modicum of sense is injected into it. If one is going to say he hasn't changed anything yet, it might be the better part of intelligence and much more convincing if one waited until he was in a position to actually define and target that change.

I can't say that I'm an expert on politics but I feel pretty confident in saying that he is not yet in charge. Of course, it looks the same, Bush is still the President. That's what I wanted to see changed. I wanted to see the Dick Chaney's, Rice's and all the rest of that arrogant all powerful group out of there.

If Obama never did another thing in his first 4 years, he affected the biggest change in politics that this nation has ever seen since the revolutionary war. He won the election of the POTUS. Would that even been possible 10 years ago. I don't think so. So my point is, if you want to impress me with negative comments, wait until they can actually be considered a reality. Anything previous to that is just silly and makes one look that they are just grasping at straws.

 

[LakeAriel]

You must be used to instant gratification. How does one make changes before they get the power? Is it done with mirrors?



Clinton's possible moral behavior aside, that was one smart "outsider" with no Washington experience that continuously out smarted and out maneuvered all the "good old boys" in Washington. That isn't the thing I wanted changed. I wanted the Bush years to be cleansed from our government.



That's all I'm saying!



That is also what I'm saying.



I am not saying that if you didn't support Obama you have to keep your mouth closed. What I said was, creating an argument based on impossible expectations is just arguing with oneself. It is only to be negative about something that cannot possibly have happened yet. Opinion is OK as long as some modicum of sense is injected into it. If one is going to say he hasn't changed anything yet, it might be the better part of intelligence and much more convincing if one waited until he was in a position to actually define and target that change.

I can't say that I'm an expert on politics but I feel pretty confident in saying that he is not yet in charge. Of course, it looks the same, Bush is still the President. That's what I wanted to see changed. I wanted to see the Dick Chaney's, Rice's and all the rest of that arrogant all powerful group out of there.

If Obama never did another thing in his first 4 years, he affected the biggest change in politics that this nation has ever seen since the revolutionary war. He won the election of the POTUS. Would that even been possible 10 years ago. I don't think so. So my point is, if you want to impress me with negative comments, wait until they can actually be considered a reality. Anything previous to that is just silly and makes one look that they are just grasping at straws.

 

[Tigger Woods]

And thankfully it is only mostly on the DIS. The rest of the country voted for him!

You mean 52% of the country.

 

[Disney Doll]

Look, you guys are going to have at least four and most likely eight years to complain about Obama. You really need to pace yourselves, you'll tire yourselves out if you load up on him at the beginning like this.

Oh sweetie, the President Bush complainers started the minute he won his first election and won't stop for another 2 years after he's out of office.

Complaining about the President is a marathon event.

 

[Disney Doll]

Putting aside that many of the appointments are not insiders, it is quite a significant change, from GWB, for the President to put adversaries in such positions of power. I think the vast majority of the criticisms we see these days about how these appointments "don't" represent change are really a reflection of the critic's dissatisfaction with the change that those appointments actually do represent. They wanted things to go their way, and they didn't, so they're grasping for whatever straws they can possible think of to try to cast aspersions on what's going on.

What adversaries has President-Elect Obama put into positions of power?

 

[mirmartinez]

You mean 52% of the country.

What did McCain end up with 45 or 46?
I honestly do not know.

 

[chris1gill]

Saw on the news this morning that it's pretty much a shoe-in that Hillary will be SoS. And with a lot of Clinton era retreads being considered for other positions, this is the change from the old Washington ways Obama was talking about?

Really???

Since you never actually watched him speak, or rather heard what he said, you wouldn't actually know the change of which he spoke. So, honestly, you don't have a lot leeway on this one.

 

[DaParkers]

Enough!!!

 

[mattsdragon]

Can't remember what I was watching, or who the talking head was, but it was still a good point. What was basically said was that with the economy swirling the bowl, the last thing the country wants right now (with the exception of the moveon(dot)org and "loony left wing bloggers), is change.

I agree, I think right now what the nation needs is stability and experience.

I didn't vote for the man, but he's going to be my Commander-in-Chief, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt that he won't just screw everything up.