Thinking of buying--lots of questions!

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We just returned from our first trip and are seriously considering buying into DVC. All advice is welcome. I like the idea of SSR resale. BUT, also like the idea of buying into AKV directly through Disney. I think either resort would be a fine choice as a home for us.

I really like the idea of the length of the contracts vs. the older resorts. You seem to get much more "bang for your buck" with the newer contracts. Is this right?

Here are some of my many questions:
1. What are the adv/disadv. of buying resale?
2. What are all of the costs involved with buying resale?
3. Who are the reputable companies selling resales?
4. What are the adv/disadv. of buying directly through Disney?
5. What are all the costs involved with buying through Disney?
6. What are the current incentives with buying through Disney?

I know--many questions. Any answers or tips would be certainly welcome!
 
I really like the idea of the length of the contracts vs. the older resorts. You seem to get much more "bang for your buck" with the newer contracts. Is this right?

The longer the contract the more you can mathmatically spread out your cost. But think of the old saying.....buy where you want to stay the most. Last thing you want to do is buy a resort and never want to stay there and then find it difficult to book where you do want to stay.

1. What are the adv/disadv. of buying resale?!

Adv....generally a lower cost if you pass ROFR.
Disadv....Time frame of getting your points. Possibility of a strip contract, meaning there are no point left until the new UY kicks in.

2. What are all of the costs involved with buying resale??!

Not sure here....generally just closing cost based on the contract.

3. Who are the reputable companies selling resales??!

The one that sponsors this site......click on the top: DVC Resales. From what I read and hear there very good.

4. What are the adv/disadv. of buying directly through Disney?

Adv....you get your points the day you buy and put down your deposit. You may get previous years points or developer points. Financing is easy. Quicker turn around on closing.
Disadv....generally a higher, not by much considering the incentives.

5. What are all the costs involved with buying through Disney?

Same as resale....though I'm not sure about the differancein closing costs.

6. What are the current incentives with buying through Disney?

I'm sure there is another DVC member more versed than I am. But I believe there is $8 off per point at SSR.

Good Luck
 
We just returned from our first trip and are seriously considering buying into DVC. All advice is welcome. I like the idea of SSR resale. BUT, also like the idea of buying into AKV directly through Disney. I think either resort would be a fine choice as a home for us.

I really like the idea of the length of the contracts vs. the older resorts. You seem to get much more "bang for your buck" with the newer contracts. Is this right?

Here are some of my many questions:
1. What are the adv/disadv. of buying resale?
2. What are all of the costs involved with buying resale?
3. Who are the reputable companies selling resales?
4. What are the adv/disadv. of buying directly through Disney?
5. What are all the costs involved with buying through Disney?
6. What are the current incentives with buying through Disney?

I know--many questions. Any answers or tips would be certainly welcome!

The length of contract is a plus and will become a bigger plus if you ever have to sell as years pass.

1. Resale is one way to go. Issues you face: (a) making sure you know what you are getting, e.g., some contracts have their full allotment of annual points, others may have no current points and the owner may have already borrowed and used next year's points meaning you are buying something of somewhat lesser value than a contract with all current points, i.e., the contracts are not all equal and price you offer has to be thought out based on what is actually being offered; (b) if you need financing, you have to find that and the terms may not be as good as Disney's; (c) Disney has right of first refusal on any sale (meaning it has to be offered chance to buy at same terms offered by purchaser) and it sometimes exercises that right, particularly if it believes the purchase price is too low -- you do not lose money in the process, you just end up back where you started; (d) closing costs may or may not be more expensive than through Disney; (e) there are annual dues adjustments, e.g., you may need to pay all or the remainder of the calendar dues as part of the closing. With resale's, price and other terms are negoptiable, with Disney they are not. Note, the above are not factors that make a resale an advantage or disadvantage over buying from Disney; they just make the process different. Ultimately, you need to determine what is actually available in the contract, price, financing and closing costs involved and then compare to what Disney is offering because the fact that price might be lower than Disney does not necessarily mean overall cost is lower for any particular resale than going through Disney.

2. Resale costs involved are price per point, closing costs (it is like any other real estate transaction with closing costs including transfer fees and taxes and purchase of title insurance), and dues adjustments at closing.

3. The Timeshare Store sponsors this site (youcan click on DVC resales at the top of the page and it has long proven itself reputable. There are also some others but we are not supposed to promote them on this site.

4. For sale from Disney, you get ease of process (although resale is also fairly easy) and access to its financing. Note, whether you buy from Disney or resale, you end up the same as an owner -- resale purchasers are not treated different from purchasers from Disney. Also, with Disney, you can actually make your first reservation before closing, with resale you cannot.

5. Disney charges new purchasers closing costs and your dues are calculated from date of sale (e.g., buy September 1 and you will be paying 1/3 of the dues for the year to cover Sept to Dec.)

6. As to incentives, I am losing track of them. At AKV, I believe you currently can get $8 off the set price per point and you also get some developer points to use in first year at SSR bewcause you cannot use AKV points until Kidani opens. I may be wrong on thatbecause it can change at any time and someone may know the details.
 
Buying resale closing costs are negotiable, but in most cases the buyer pays all the costs. When buying from Disney, Disney pays part of the closing costs. (they use to pay all the closing costs, but ceased that several years ago).

As a first time buyer with Disney, there is a minimum purchase. It use to be 230 points, then 200, then 180, then 160, and in some cases with specials going on they have had lower requirements. You can also buy any number of points above the minimum. If you want specifically to buy 172 points, you can do that.

With resale you can only purchase what's being offered. If you want 100 points, then you'd have to find a contract that size, or close to it. This may be difficult in some cases.

With Disney you can request a specific use year if you want. It may or not be available, but if it is available you can buy it. You do not need to purchase the specific use year being sold at the time.

With resale you will get the use year already established for the contract you're buying. With resale contracts you cannot change the use year or the number of contract points as they are both already fixed.

For brokers, I recommend the Timeshare Store. They are a real b & m (brick and mortar) store as opposed to others who work out of their houses as agents (EG GMAC). The Timeshare store specializes in DVC resales, and last I heard, had about an 80% market share. For brokers be sure to check what the commission rate is, and if there are any upfront costs. I believe TSS is still at 10% with no upfront costs.
 

Do you have any idea how many points you would need? Because some if the incentives have a minimum purchase amount, so we could answer some of your questions more accurately with a little more info. Also, if you are interested in SSR -- you may still be able to buy there directly from Disney as well, so be sure and ask your guide.

I would say to buy direct from Disney if you want AKV as your home resort because there just aren't as many contracts on the resale market right now since it's the newest resort and what is available is very close to what you'd be paying to buy direct.

If you want any of the other resorts, definitely look into resale as many of the contracts have a much lower price per point (BCV might be the one exception to this) as well as banked points available.
 
2. Resale costs involved are price per point, closing costs (it is like any other real estate transaction with closing costs including transfer fees and taxes and purchase of title insurance), and dues adjustments at closing.

3. The Timeshare Store sponsors this site (youcan click on DVC resales at the top of the page and it has long proven itself reputable. There are also some others but we are not supposed to promote them on this site.

Do you have any idea how much the closing costs usually run? Does it depend on the cost of your contact? Is it some kind of %?

I am somewhat of a newbie and didn't realize that you shouldn't ask for other information re: resales because of the sponsor. I just want to find someone reputable if resale is the way we go.

Thanks!
 










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