There has to be more to the story...

[Wendy&Grumpy]

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the lawsuit states that while Magical Cruises LLC is a company formed in England that the parent does primary business in Mid central Florida and that because the port it originated from was domestic that the venue would be correct. I have no idea if that is legit; they filed a federal suit.

It's a bit odd that they can't even get basic facts straight. Fantasy doesn't sail from Miami.

 

[Eeyores]

Wishing I hadn't opened this thread! One more worry for me now. Also wishing I did not just book a verandah room!

 

[Club Disney Chandler]

Wishing I hadn't opened this thread! One more worry for me now. Also wishing I did not just book a verandah room!

Seriously? You're on a multi ton vessel in the middle of the ocean and now you're worried because of a cabin door? You probably shouldn't read my post earlier where I shared the story of breaking my finger on a lounge chair at Satellite Falls.

Seriously, you have a better chance of being hurt in a car accident close to your house than any of these freak accidents. Relax and take it easy, cruises are awesome and a ton of fun, you'll have a great time!

 

[Eeyores]

I never worry about myself but am a little overprotective of my kid! It's not something I'd ever think of...heavy doors slamming so hard to sever a digit. Good to know.

So if they are that heavy...are the doors also hard to open? Or is it the draft that causes it?

 

[MsJiminyCricket]

Well, OK, there you go. Our victim boarded on Apr 25, had his injury on Apr 26 (formal night), had to wait two more days before the first port (St Maarten) with PR being the next day. I'd hazard a guess that the man was offered medivac, but didn't have insurance and couldn't have paid for it, so opted out. Of course, not realizing that any delay would mean the thumb couldn't be reattached.

Now that he's home, he's probably found a lawyer that feels that Disney has deep pockets and wants the guy's medical costs, as well as Pain & Suffering, covered.

Of course, that's just my take on it. I can't believe that the doctor onboard didn't know about it. And, the Fantasy didn't depart out of Miami.

I would have thought that - at the very least - they'd give the man a tetanus shot...

 

[Lorilais_mommie]

I'm sure the veranda door had to be opened!
Or something else is at play.. (Maybe it was stuck in the hinge part of the door)

The reason I say this.. My 4 yo. Got her fingers slammed in our inside stateroom door back in April! We were on the magic, not sure maybe fantasy has differnt doors. Heavier?

Similar to the guy using....
My oldest was holding the door opened and moved bc I called her over to the bed. Some how my little one (who was in the hall with papa) ran back to get the door and her fingers ended up in the door!
My mother (a nurse for 25 years) ran over and checked her fingers, they were still fully moveable although VERY VERY tender but they were not broken.. We did ice and tape them for the last day of our cruise just in case..

Went straight to doctor when we got home and her fingers were fine, bruised but the doc didn't see a need for X-rays. Doc did say we were Lucky it was higher up on the fingers.. If it had been closer to end of her fingers they would have been broken..

Disney knows kids will get the hands/fingers slammed in doors..
I'm sure they tested the cabin doors long before this!
So,etching just is not adding up.. More info is needed..

 

[GooniesAndy]

Good gravy. There are photographs on the internet taken by DCL passengers in St. Maarten on the scheduled day. It wasn't in the wrong place. If they had skipped that port and randomly gone to St. Thomas instead, it would have been posted all over this board. There are people tracking the slightest movements of the ships and they post here when anything looks off. The error regarding the port of origin for the cruise was in a news article. An article which also got the guy's name wrong.

The main point of the lawsuit is that they are maintaining unsafe doors, not that there should be signs posted saying the doors are unsafe. Many of you have validated that point in your own posts in this thread. Hopefully this suit causes DCL to install proper safety measures on the doors so that they can't just slam shut with that level of force.

 

[tvguy]

I can't speak to how he was treated on the ship, but my wife's Step-mother had the tips of 3 fingers nearly amputated when my FIL was in the hospital and a nurse closed the door to the room and the fingers were in the wrong place. Heavy fire doors can do a lot of damage. She immediately passed out from the pain, but they were able to reattach the tips. But it wasn't the whole finger, just the very tip. She was lucky.
I know 3 people who lost entire fingers, or tips in work related accidents. None attempted to have them reattached.

 

[sweetpee_1993]

I never worry about myself but am a little overprotective of my kid! It's not something I'd ever think of...heavy doors slamming so hard to sever a digit. Good to know.

So if they are that heavy...are the doors also hard to open? Or is it the draft that causes it?

Any door, land or sea, can sever a digit especially the side where the hinges are.

The doors aren't particularly heavy. A kid could operate them. I think the slider to the verandah takes more effort, really. There's a posted notice not to open the verandah door and the stateroom door at the same time for a reason. If your stateroom door is open and you open the verandah door there's a huge WHOOSH through the room and the stateroom door will slam hard if you aren't hanging onto it good. Like it rattles the walls hard, it's such a forceful slam. Just be mindful. If you have small children keep your safety latch on the stateroom door latched and engage the up high latch on the verandah door.

The WHOOSH can be useful with teenage boys. And flatulence. You can clear the air instantly in an emergency.

 

[truck1]

Good gravy. There are photographs on the internet taken by DCL passengers in St. Maarten on the scheduled day. It wasn't in the wrong place. If they had skipped that port and randomly gone to St. Thomas instead, it would have been posted all over this board. There are people tracking the slightest movements of the ships and they post here when anything looks off. The error regarding the port of origin for the cruise was in a news article. An article which also got the guy's name wrong.

The main point of the lawsuit is that they are maintaining unsafe doors, not that there should be signs posted saying the doors are unsafe. Many of you have validated that point in your own posts in this thread. Hopefully this suit causes DCL to install proper safety measures on the doors so that they can't just slam shut with that level of force.

I was only going by what the port tracker was saying.

The other thing is that under maritime rules DCL and all cruise lines need to have auto closing doors so in the unlikely event of a fire the door closes and keeps the fire in the cabin, or fire/smoke in the hallways. You'll never see that changed. It actually borrowed from the US fire codes

 

[Wendy&Grumpy]

The error regarding the port of origin for the cruise was in a news article. An article which also got the guy's name wrong.

Actually, the error is in the court documents. Which are shared in post #58.

 

[pontikes67]

Disneycruiselineblog has the Navigator from this cruise. It's funny that the attorney didn't know that The Disney Fantasy went out of Canaveral not Miami. Not very thorough follow up if you are planning to sue Disney. #CrossUrTs #DotUrIs

 

[Sytrace]

The Orlando Sentinel is not known for their reporting of facts... but then I live in Orlando and I am a little negative on this paper.
It is funny, because I was on this particular sailing from Port Canaveral and it was a 7 night Fantasy departing on Saturday, April 25th
The first night at sea was the Formal night (as you all know) and not the Captains gala.

I feel badly for this gentleman but have more questions than there are answers in this case and especially as the few details of information they are giving, are generally not very clear or consistent.

 

[truck1]

The Orlando Sentinel is not known for their reporting of facts... but then I live in Orlando and I am a little negative on this paper.
It is funny, because I was on this particular sailing from Port Canaveral and it was a 7 night Fantasy departing on Saturday, April 25th
The first night at sea was the Formal night (as you all know) and not the Captains gala.

I feel badly for this gentleman but have more questions than there are answers in this case and especially as the few details of information they are giving, are generally not very clear or consistent.

Its not just the slantenil. Theres a few different online articles that are almost ver batim. Wesh, WFTV among others all have the same facts if can call them that.

 

[Sytrace]

Its not just the slantenil. Theres a few different online articles that are almost ver batim. Wesh, WFTV among others all have the same facts if can call them that.

I think journalism as a whole is not even close to reality based, factual information. WESH an WFTV are in competition with each other but somehow seem to share the same brain and information source. It would be so nice to see a news report that had actual fact and not conjecture and "alleged" information.

 

[Viviene Anthony]

I think journalism as a whole is not even close to reality based, factual information. WESH an WFTV are in competition with each other but somehow seem to share the same brain and information source. It would be so nice to see a news report that had actual fact and not conjecture and "alleged" information.

I totally agree on this. I don't always believe what I read anymore... especially with this one. Since we don't know this guy and we weren't there, we don't know what actually happened and can only speculate. I'm gonna guess that this guy maybe didn't have travel insurance (which includes coverage for emergency medical treatment and transport) and opted to wait until he got to the next port, ultimately leading to losing valuable time for his thumb to be reattached. And since he's not suing the nurse or physician that treated him on the ship, they must have done their job and informed him of the consequences to wait. So instead of being aware of the door, he sues Disney for it. People are so sue happy these days because they don't want to own up to their faults. As the OP says, there has to be more to this story.

 

[Eeyores]

I was only going by what the port tracker was saying.

The other thing is that under maritime rules DCL and all cruise lines need to have auto closing doors so in the unlikely event of a fire the door closes and keeps the fire in the cabin, or fire/smoke in the hallways. You'll never see that changed. It actually borrowed from the US fire codes

What about the accessible rooms that open and close and stay open. They don't slam like that I am sure.

 

[Viviene Anthony]

What about the accessible rooms that open and close and stay open. They don't slam like that I am sure.

Then you probably don't have to worry about losing your thumb if you have one of those rooms. Just kidding. I'm pretty sure there are handicap accessible staterooms with verandahs and since all the doors are heavy, there are chances that they can slam hard enough to injure fingers. Even my own doors at home slam shut when windows in the house are open and there is a sudden wind gush. As one of the other posters mentioned, "Just be mindful". I plan to do exactly that when I'm on my cruise and in my stateroom with verandah.

 

[phinz]

So if they are that heavy...are the doors also hard to open? Or is it the draft that causes it?

The draft when a verandah door is open can make the door almost impossible to open sometimes, especially when there is a high wind outside. We were on our first cruise and my wife got seasick while at Palo. She headed back to our stateroom and left me to eat - she insisted I stay - while she lay down. I got back and she was on the couch with the verandah door open because the breeze while lying on the couch was the only thing that helped. We had 55-60 mph apparent winds that night, and our room was as far forward and up as you could get without being in the Disney suite. It took every bit of weight and strength I had to push the door open, and I had to hang on for dear life to keep it from slamming.

That door could have *killed* someone if it hit them in the right place at the force it was trying to close.

She doesn't leave the verandah door open anymore.

 

[truck1]

What about the accessible rooms that open and close and stay open. They don't slam like that I am sure.

I've never been in a acessible room, but I'd guess there is a delay on them. Or there is supposed to be a delay and it's been dumbed down so to speak.