The VGF 2 pricing thread

What will 200 points at VGF2 look like at launch, with incentives included?

  • Same price as Riviera, Same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 34 14.6%
  • Same price as Riviera, higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • Same price as Riviera, lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 74 31.8%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 50 21.5%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 6 2.6%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 39 16.7%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    233
  • Poll closed .
I was told yesterday morning when we re-did things (around 10:00 am ish) I would get them yesterday afternoon, but later...they didn't arrive until sometime this afternoon, so about 30 hours later. At that time, they were backed up by 200 + contracts.

I called Thursday at 1:30pm EST so I’m at about 54 hours now. Definitely sounds like something’s wrong. My guide emailed me Friday morning verifying I was in the queue, they had a backlog of 250+ contracts, and qualified for luggage as it was based on entry into queue. So who knows at this point. 🤦‍♀️
 
I called Thursday at 1:30pm EST so I’m at about 54 hours now. Definitely sounds like something’s wrong. My guide emailed me Friday morning verifying I was in the queue, they had a backlog of 250+ contracts, and qualified for luggage as it was based on entry into queue. So who knows at this point. 🤦‍♀️

I'd give your guide a call tomorrow or email them to see if they can double check things for you....just to make sure the email is correct?
 
Why are so many people changing their minds solely because you don’t get 2021 points? I’m not being snarky, I genuinely want to know because I don’t understand. I was disappointed to not get 2021 points, but it didn’t make me think twice at all about what I was going to buy. I saw the price they came in at and planned on 300 points, when my guide said no points until Dec 2022 I was surprised with some disappointment and mild annoyance, but never did it cross my mind to change anything because of it.
I think the current UY points help if someone is kinda on the edge of buying/not buying. I have a December UY and I bought the AUL fire sale (300 points at $133) on Nov 31st. Getting the 2020 points (and Disney banking them for me) is what made me decide it was worth it. I basically said those points were worth $15pp and it made AUL a deal that was too hard to pass up. In the super long term the one years worth of points is not a huge deal, but one of the perks of normally buying direct is getting all current UY points and that is taken away on VGF.
 
Have to be honest luggage selling out is weird. As an example we just got a mailing today about VGF being offered and it's already sold out.

By the way I laughed at the mailing since the main photo is of the 3BR and not of the new building.
Well, they said the luggage would be available for the first 500 buyers. I guess it sold out quickly. It might be annoying, but it’s not weird.
 

I discussed it with my guide and he said they just don't recommend it because it is still a real estate transaction...I decided to just pay it.
Me too. Though rare, I’m sure there are situations where we’d be glad we have it.
 
Well, they said the luggage would be available for the first 500 buyers. I guess it sold out quickly. It might be annoying, but it’s not weird.

I was surprised it went as fast as it did because you were only eligible for it at 125 and up. I figured it would last a few days at least. 500 contracts of at least 125 is a lot for 24 hours!
 
Me too. Though rare, I’m sure there are situations where we’d be glad we have it.

I figured I spent what I did, what is a few hundred more...my luck, I would not get it and I'd be the one with the issue!!! LOL
 
I figured I spent what I did, what is a few hundred more...my luck, I would not get it and I'd be the one with the issue!!! LOL
That’s exactly what I thought, and then I’d be kicking myself for being penny wise and dollar foolish!
 
I waived title insurance. I figured these are new points, if there’s an issue with title to them… well, yikes. We all have an issue.
The title company is not a third party as far as I know. It’s a Disney owned entity. Depending on how badly things went that I need title insurance, well, let’s just say that if I was going to obtain title insurance, I’d buy it from a true third party vs the Disney entity.
 
I do not see the base price going up until after non members have had a chance to buy, especially since it seems that this has really sparked sales. DVD needed it and I would think they want to capitalize on it for a least a few months, if not more, to make up for the lost ground of the past few years.

What new members won't see is any incentive under 150 like we have as owners, and I would be surprised to see the special gift like luggage brought back for new owners...but then again, who knows!!!

So, I think you will see the new member incentives a bit less than what we current owners got, but still a nice incentive for purchasing.
Honestly, I’m just thrilled with the $207 price point. I think if they raised the base price before new members had a chance, I might be too salty and walk away 😂 as for things like luggage, I don’t really care about stuff like that. I know people are mad about the backpacks. I’m a total minimalist, so I’m really choosy about what material things I let take up real estate in my home. A nice little dollar incentive though would make me happy.
 
Why are so many people changing their minds solely because you don’t get 2021 points? I’m not being snarky, I genuinely want to know because I don’t understand. I was disappointed to not get 2021 points, but it didn’t make me think twice at all about what I was going to buy. I saw the price they came in at and planned on 300 points, when my guide said no points until Dec 2022 I was surprised with some disappointment and mild annoyance, but never did it cross my mind to change anything because of it.
Yeah, I was disappointed. It changed plans I’d come up with in my head, but I still plan to buy when it opens to non-members. It’s disappointing but definitely not a deal breaker. I mean you’re buying a 42 year contract, it’s just one year’s worth of points. But that’s me personally. Definitely was bummed though!
 
So I got a little peeved off that there were no 2021 points and not allowed fixed week in the 1 bedrooms. I decided to try the resale market and see what was going on there. I put in some offers for BLT at 150ish and no-one was biting. So I went ahead and got 314 points today (I was going to get 300 so decided to just get 2 of the 157 point fixed weeks). Guide says I have 10 days after we SIGN the documents so I will drag my feet a little with that and see if there is a resale that will play ball between now and then. I do think that in 3 years these points will resale more than they are currently selling for, so I think the downside is minimal. Maybe 20% haircut if I have to sell in 3-4 months (which means I would have much greater worries than DVC at that point). Hesitating did cost me the luggage. If anybody doesn't want there set or is getting 2 and wants to sell me a set drop me a PM.
 
I waived title insurance. I figured these are new points, if there’s an issue with title to them… well, yikes. We all have an issue.
The title company is not a third party as far as I know. It’s a Disney owned entity. Depending on how badly things went that I need title insurance, well, let’s just say that if I was going to obtain title insurance, I’d buy it from a true third party vs the Disney entity.

That is also my understanding - the title company is a Disney entity. Title insurance protects you against the seller not holding title properly or some previous issue. If that is happening with any direct sale from DVC then there's a whole lot of other things to worry about.
 
So I got a little peeved off that there were no 2021 points and not allowed fixed week in the 1 bedrooms. I decided to try the resale market and see what was going on there. I put in some offers for BLT at 150ish and no-one was biting. So I went ahead and got 314 points today (I was going to get 300 so decided to just get 2 of the 157 point fixed weeks). Guide says I have 10 days after we SIGN the documents so I will drag my feet a little with that and see if there is a resale that will play ball between now and then. I do think that in 3 years these points will resale more than they are currently selling for, so I think the downside is minimal. Maybe 20% haircut if I have to sell in 3-4 months (which means I would have much greater worries than DVC at that point). Hesitating did cost me the luggage. If anybody doesn't want there set or is getting 2 and wants to sell me a set drop me a PM.
That’s a good plan. And I do agree that in three years the points will resale more than they are currently selling for. I bought 454 points, 2 contracts for 150 and one for 154 to even things up point total wise. I checked the fine print, under the hope that I might have an extra luggage set to give you, but the contract says that you’re only entitled to one if you buy multiple contracts in one day of 125 or over. Seems fair.

I would think now is also the time to try lowballing an offer on all those overpriced VGF resales out there.
 
So I got a little peeved off that there were no 2021 points and not allowed fixed week in the 1 bedrooms. I decided to try the resale market and see what was going on there. I put in some offers for BLT at 150ish and no-one was biting. So I went ahead and got 314 points today (I was going to get 300 so decided to just get 2 of the 157 point fixed weeks). Guide says I have 10 days after we SIGN the documents so I will drag my feet a little with that and see if there is a resale that will play ball between now and then. I do think that in 3 years these points will resale more than they are currently selling for, so I think the downside is minimal. Maybe 20% haircut if I have to sell in 3-4 months (which means I would have much greater worries than DVC at that point). Hesitating did cost me the luggage. If anybody doesn't want there set or is getting 2 and wants to sell me a set drop me a PM.

Did you see the 1BR fixed week resale contract? Not certain if it's the week you'd be looking for but there was one yesterday.
 
Why are so many people changing their minds solely because you don’t get 2021 points? I’m not being snarky, I genuinely want to know because I don’t understand. I was disappointed to not get 2021 points, but it didn’t make me think twice at all about what I was going to buy. I saw the price they came in at and planned on 300 points, when my guide said no points until Dec 2022 I was surprised with some disappointment and mild annoyance, but never did it cross my mind to change anything because of it.
For VGF, you typically can get $20 per point on the DVC rental market. When we bought VGF1 resale, we had enough points for our already-planned vacations. So we rented our VGF1 2020 and 2021 points, while the seller paid the Maintenance Fee for these 2 years. In effect, we dropped the price of what we paid by $40 per point.

Since VGF2 is not yet open, it’s completely understandable why there are no 2021 points. But not having 2021 points does change the financial math.
 



















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