The VGF 2 pricing thread

What will 200 points at VGF2 look like at launch, with incentives included?

  • Same price as Riviera, Same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 34 14.6%
  • Same price as Riviera, higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • Same price as Riviera, lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 74 31.8%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 50 21.5%
  • A little higher than Riviera ($1-$25 more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 6 2.6%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), same point chart as VGF1

    Votes: 39 16.7%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), higher point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 14 6.0%
  • A lot higher than Riviera ($26+ more), lower point chart than VGF1

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • Total voters
    233
  • Poll closed .
I’m wondering if DVC would ever incentivize buyers to purchase a package of points that includes contracts at both Riviera and VGF2? That way they could take advantage of the initial excitement that will surround VGF2 sales and spread a little of it over to Riviera.
In 2020, they did allow you to purchase points at both RIV and CCV that would "stack" incentives, because the incentives being offered were exactly the same (in terms of $$ off). This is in fact partly why we did buy RIV -- we were already purchasing CCV for 2 fixed weeks, and 64 RIV points got us the next level of incentives. In the end, our effective cost per point for RIV was $148.34 when you factored in the lower point cost for CCV as a result of hitting the incentives ($150pp actual point cost), so it was a no-brainer for us to add on a small incentive.

Which is a long way of saying, if the incentives match *exactly* I would check to see if they will allow you to stack them!
 
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In 2020, they did allow you to purchase points at both RIV and CCV that would "stack" incentives, because the incentives being offered were exactly the same (in terms of $$ off). This is in fact partly why we did buy RIV -- we were already purchasing CCV for 2 fixed weeks, and 64 RIV points got us the next level of incentives. In the end, our effective cost per point for RIV was $148.34 when you factored in the lower point cost for CCV as a result of hitting the incentives ($155pp actual point cost), so it was a no-brainer for us to add on a small incentive.

Which is a long way of saying, if the incentives match *exactly* I would check to see if they will allow you to stack them!
Interesting! How many points did you buy? I’m curious because I’ll probably wind up buying enough VGF2 points to take advantage of a high discount.
 
Interesting! How many points did you buy? I’m curious because I’ll probably wind up buying enough VGF2 points to take advantage of a high discount.
I initially started with 2 FWs (118 points each, or 236 points) and did 2 50 point RIV contracts, but then called next day to change to 65 points each. We have 2 sons, hence splitting the contracts, and we just felt 130 would go further than 120. But then - about 60 days after we bought the contracts - DH learned about runDisney FWs and wanted the Wine & Dine week. I asked my Guide about it an kind of sighed that we wouldn't get the high point discount, but our guide said because we hadn't actually closed (we were paying over 90 days), we'd still qualify. So we did the F&W runDisney week at CCV (another 118 pts) and as that now put us at 484pts, we added on another 50pts (alas, our guide would not let us split it into 2 25-pts), to get us that additional discount at 500 points. And now that I'm typing it out, it all seems so crazy! But those Summer 2020 incentives WERE SO GOOD we were able to buy a lot more points than we originally intended.
 

I initially started with 2 FWs (118 points each, or 236 points) and did 2 50 point RIV contracts, but then called next day to change to 65 points each. We have 2 sons, hence splitting the contracts, and we just felt 130 would go further than 120. But then - about 60 days after we bought the contracts - DH learned about runDisney FWs and wanted the Wine & Dine week. I asked my Guide about it an kind of sighed that we wouldn't get the high point discount, but our guide said because we hadn't actually closed (we were paying over 90 days), we'd still qualify. So we did the F&W runDisney week at CCV (another 118 pts) and as that now put us at 484pts, we added on another 50pts (alas, our guide would not let us split it into 2 25-pts), to get us that additional discount at 500 points. And now that I'm typing it out, it all seems so crazy! But those Summer 2020 incentives WERE SO GOOD we were able to buy a lot more points than we originally intended.
So envious of your fixed weeks. We only have one but definitely Disney’s best kept secret! Congrats! With the low points chart at CCV that was an phenomenal purchase!
 
So envious of your fixed weeks. We only have one but definitely Disney’s best kept secret! Congrats! With the low points chart at CCV that was an phenomenal purchase!
It was! As of 2023 point charts, our runDisney and Thanksgiving weeks are now LESS than the weekly cost of those weeks, and our Week 48 (week after Thanksgiving mist years) is the same cost.

So our per point cost was $175pp for CCV and $150pp (I made a mistake above now that I went back and looked) for RIV. I’m pretty happy with those point costs, as non-incentive costs then we’re $220 and $195, respectively, so I got $45 off per point.
 
I’m wondering if DVC would ever incentivize buyers to purchase a package of points that includes contracts at both Riviera and VGF2? That way they could take advantage of the initial excitement that will surround VGF2 sales and spread a little of it over to Riviera.

Back in the old days I purchased points at different resorts and the entire total was used towards incentive calculation so in a way it has been done. Per Lorana it seems they still have done that recently. But it's not something they marketed and I do not believe they would. If they felt sales lagging at Riviera they'd stop mentioning VGF as much and vice versa. Or just have a little higher incentive there vs trying to sell a package of 2 resorts to guests who don't even know a thing about DVC.
 
question about pine key dormer Rooms vs lower floor rooms

i don’t care about a balcony and I like how dormer rooms feel more spacious due to ceiling height.

any other pros or cons to a dormer room vs regular room?
 
Back in the old days I purchased points at different resorts and the entire total was used towards incentive calculation so in a way it has been done. Per Lorana it seems they still have done that recently. But it's not something they marketed and I do not believe they would. If they felt sales lagging at Riviera they'd stop mentioning VGF as much and vice versa. Or just have a little higher incentive there vs trying to sell a package of 2 resorts to guests who don't even know a thing about DVC.
Makes total sense. I’m just going to keep my fingers crossed for some solid incentives on VGF2!
 
Incentives, a good base price and a return of annual pass sales
Agreed! I was lucky with annual passes for my wife and I. Being relatively new to DVC, I bought our first two sorcerer passes in October so I could make park reservations for a trip this September. They won’t get activated until we actually use them, so I won’t have to renew them until September of 2023!
 
It's a couch facing the beds and I think majority want to sit on the couch and watch the TV vs sitting on a bed to watch TV. That's a big difference between a studio and a hotel room. I think the murphy bed/sofa combo was a game changer that does make the 2 real bed model obsolete for a lot of people who wanted 2 comfortable beds. Now studios work much better for a larger variety of people.

Why they don't give us a King bed studio option is just crazy to me. Disney is getting more king beds into their deluxe hotel rooms yet DVC can't figure out that would be an offering that is likely to appeal as it would be unlike any other studio option they offer. Or make it half and half at least? For what they are doing at VGF it's just a furniture arrangement and wouldn't change anything structural. Simple.
I thought the exact same thing! Why can’t they have a King bed, a Murphy queen sofa bed, and the little pull down bed? Those pull down beds are out of the way for those that don’t need them and the larger room would accommodate it. But, maybe they want you to have to spend the points for a 1 BR or higher for a King bed. 🤷‍♀️
 
Yes this was a big miss by dvc. they should have had a % of the new rooms, say 100 rooms be kings. Half the building

this would then make getting two studios super popular

2 queens for kids and a king split for parents. Boom winner
This is even better than I was thinking! This is definitely the best idea I’ve heard!
They need you to help with planning!!
 
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Haven't been able to get through all 39 pages so I apologize for asking what May already have been answered. I keep seeing $207 as a price point? Why would that be when current direct price is $255?
 
Haven't been able to get through all 39 pages so I apologize for asking what May already have been answered. I keep seeing $207 as a price point? Why would that be when current direct price is $255?
255 is a sold out resort price point (not currently being marketed) based on limited inventory and the need to ROFR a contract to meet demand.

207 is the soon to be direct sales price point and also is alluded to in the fine print of the new VGF commercial.
 
255 is a sold out resort price point (not currently being marketed) based on limited inventory and the need to ROFR a contract to meet demand.

207 is the soon to be direct sales price point and also is alluded to in the fine print of the new VGF commercial.
Doesn't mean it's right, but that's why the underlying assumptions by many
 
Anyone know about how long before a resort goes on sale that they typically announce the price and incentives?
We're sort of in uncharted territory here though. We are not "...before a resort goes on sale..." because VGF is already on sale and VGF2 isn't a separate thing. This isn't a Copper Creek / Boulder Ridge situation.
 



















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