The VGF 2 pricing thread

[Chuck96]

I'm not a DVC member, considering getting in with this. If it is March 3rd for DVC, what's the date for the unwashed plebians?

 

[RoseGold]

I can't wait to hear what's up with these points on the ground! If we are selling in March for a product that doesn't exist until, say August, it doesn't have any 2022 points for, say an April UY. So, what's the play here? Buy VGF1 points for the April UY? But October UY to make sure you get 2022 points!?

Buy VGF1 points, April UY, with a VGF2 fixed week?

 

[lowlight]

I’m sure someone floated this idea somewhere in the thread, but what if this is a test balloon for future expansions? DVC really saved Disney’s hide during COVID lockdowns, even if the money went to different divisions. Their financial liability with DVC vs hotel side, I imagine, looks wildly different in a pandemic (or any other disaster) scenario. They see how cheaply and profitably they can turn a hotel side building into a DVC villa building, now they are more covered in shutdowns and breakage still allows them to rent out for cash, it’s a win win for them unless I’m missing something.

 

[SusieQ93]

I'm not a DVC member, considering getting in with this. If it is March 3rd for DVC, what's the date for the unwashed plebians?

In the same boat. All these members on here have me jealous. Like when can Disney take MY money your post made me laugh.

 

[CarolynFH]

I’m sure someone floated this idea somewhere in the thread, but what if this is a test balloon for future expansions? DVC really saved Disney’s hide during COVID lockdowns, even if the money went to different divisions. Their financial liability with DVC vs hotel side, I imagine, looks wildly different in a pandemic (or any other disaster) scenario. They see how cheaply and profitably they can turn a hotel side building into a DVC villa building, now they are more covered in shutdowns and breakage still allows them to rent out for cash, it’s a win win for them unless I’m missing something.

Disney figured that out long ago. NOT in chronological order: DVD (the developer and sales for DVC) converted 3 buildings at Poly and built bungalows for DVC. DVD converted half the hotel rooms at WL into DVC. They converted some AKL rooms in Jambo House to DVC villas. They tore down a wing at CR and a neighborhood at CBR and built new DVC buildings. Now the DVC owners pay the maintenance for all of those buildings and rooms, and Disney, as the single biggest owner (at any given time they own 2-5% of all points), can rent its own points as well as extra points it gets from owners exchanging into RCI/II/cruises/ABD, not to mention breakage. Yes, that idea has been floated around here for many years, and the only question is, what’s next?

 

[lowlight]

Disney figured that out long ago. NOT in chronological order: DVD (the developer and sales for DVC) converted 3 buildings at Poly and built bungalows for DVC. DVD converted half the hotel rooms at WL into DVC. They converted some AKL rooms in Jambo House to DVC villas. They tore down a wing at CR and a neighborhood at CBR and built new DVC buildings. Now the DVC owners pay the maintenance for all of those buildings and rooms, and Disney, as the single biggest owner (at any given time they own 2-5% of all points), can rent its own points as well as extra points it gets from owners exchanging into RCI/II/cruises/ABD, not to mention breakage. Yes, that idea has been floated around here for many years, and the only question is, what’s next?

That was the point I was trying to make, but I didn’t articulate it well. They at least converted (as in tore down and redid) units in previous hotel takeover expansions, now they’ve gone the extra mile of “what if we don’t even need to tear it down and add a kitchenette, just a new coat of paint?”. I think VGF2 IS what’s next and it saddens me. I think as owners we should have a say.

 

[Her Dotness]

In the same boat. All these members on here have me jealous. Like when can Disney take MY money your post made me laugh.

Oh, they'll gladly take your money ANY time.

We bought into VGF several years ago at sold-out resort price per point. I don't recall how much it was. It was VGF and no other for us.

Guide tried like crazy to get us to buy Aulani or Poly, the current sellers then. I know Aulani was one--fat chance we'd have bought that!

We had to wait for a few weeks to get as many points as we wanted.

All ya gotta do is insist, have the needed funds--and patience. ETA: And be that dumb!

 

[CarolMN]

We will be staying at Boardwalk the week GFV2 go on sale. Do you think I need an appointment with a guide?

An appointment to what? They have nothing new to show you. If you want to buy, you can probably do that at the BW kiosk on the way to breakfast.

I would go to RIV if you want some actual service and have something to talk about. The DVC sales offices are there, they just took over a bunch of rooms near the desk. Easy to get there from Boardwalk. I'd make an appointment. Sometimes they pick you up, and they can validate your parking.

You could also do it on the phone in a few days, depending on where you are traveling from. In some states, they can't talk to you over the phone.

Just visit the DVC location on the Boardwalk, just past the Big Rivet Grill. You can walk in. I'm sure they would be happy to sell you VGF or any other DVC resort. I visited with them in December about VGF. They had no info to share then, but were
very nice & personable.

 

[pkrieger2287]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1494375315354882059

 

[stwaldman]

I'm sure others saw, but this is in the email that just went out, and based on the ending year is clearly specific to VGF:

Proposed Resort Studios at The Villas at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort & Spa are under construction and are projected to open Summer 2022. Actual room views will vary. Fixtures and furnishings are subject to change. All accommodations are subject to availability. Membership in The Villas at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort & Spa requires purchasing a deeded ownership interest that expires January 31, 2064, and typically ranges in price from $32,000 to $58,000 (subject to change). Not an offer where registration or other legal requirements for timeshare solicitation have not been met. For additional information, please visit the General Product, State, & Country Disclosures.​

 

[hhisc16]

I'm sure others saw, but this is in the email that just went out, and based on the ending year is clearly specific to VGF:

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Proposed Resort Studios at The Villas at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort & Spa are under construction and are projected to open Summer 2022. Actual room views will vary. Fixtures and furnishings are subject to change. All accommodations are subject to availability. Membership in The Villas at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort & Spa requires purchasing a deeded ownership interest that expires January 31, 2064, and typically ranges in price from $32,000 to $58,000 (subject to change). Not an offer where registration or other legal requirements for timeshare solicitation have not been met. For additional information, please visit the General Product, State, & Country Disclosures.​

So 213 a point for 150 points? 32k

 

[stwaldman]

So 213 a point for 150 points?

based on the rest of this thread, I'm sure everybody will find their own way to interpret this into a price range of $207-$280 pp

 

[nuhusky123]

Ok so now it’s in email marketing. How does dvc not run afoul of the FTC if they sell this for $255 as some predict

I will concede $207 is not the price now given the email says $32,000. id say $214 is the number

edit it is very bad business to be promoting $31,000 in videos and a different price of $32,000 in an email

even the video in the email says $31,000

 

[stwaldman]

Ok so now it’s in email marketing. How does dvc not run afoul of the FTC if they sell this for $255 as some predict

I will concede $207 is not the price now given the email says $32,000. id say $214 is the number

edit it is very bad business to be promoting $31,000 in videos and a different price of $32,000 in an email

to be entirely fair, you can argue that 32K is just 207 per point plus 500-1000 for closing costs, fees, and initial dues. We all still don't know anything, its just fun to chase our tails.

 

[nuhusky123]

to be entirely fair, you can argue that 32K is just 207 per point plus 500-1000 for closing costs, fees, and initial dues. We all still don't know anything, its just fun to chase our tails.

Ah good point or $32,000 is a typo fat finger as $31,000 is everywhere

 

[Marionnette]

Ok so now it’s in email marketing. How does dvc not run afoul of the FTC if they sell this for $255 as some predict

I will concede $207 is not the price now given the email says $32,000. id say $214 is the number

Because it still says "typically ranges in price" from $32K-$58K. That means the cost for a typical purchase will fall within that range. How do you define "typical"? It's a pretty nebulous term. The base price could be $255 with incentives that bring a 150-point contract down to $213 for a current member but not a new member. Or it could mean that the "typical" contract is around 125 points, which comes out to $31,875 @$255 per point.

 

[lowlight]

Because it still says "typically ranges in price" from $32K-$58K. That means the cost for a typical purchase will fall within that range. How do you define "typical"? It's a pretty nebulous term. The base price could be $255 with incentives that bring a 150-point contract down to $213 for a current member but not a new member. Or it could mean that the "typical" contract is around 125 points, which comes out to $31,875 @$255 per point.

I agree it’s vague, but current members can buy a 50 point contract so if they were advertising current member price it would be much lower.

 

[sndral]

Based on the email I got today urging me to lock in savings on a direct purchase before they disappear 3/2, I’m predicting that VGF2 pricing & terms will be revealed 3/3/22

& based on the email I got today looks like sales to existing members will start 3/3/22 - I tried finding details by following the email link, but only ended up entered in the sweepstakes

confirmed March 3 for dvc members

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[Bjaiken77]

Haha…look at all the speculative math we have to do because they won’t just say the price.

 

[JasonBG]

I would not read into those $32k-$58k prices because they relate to sales ongoing on Aulani.