The VGF 2 pricing thread

[nuhusky123]

Haha…look at all the speculative math we have to do because they won’t just say the price.

I’m about to break out the chalk board and channel Einstein

 

[nuhusky123]

I would not read into those $32k-$58k prices because they relate to sales ongoing on Aulani.

Perhaps but Disney is attaching that message to marketing specific to gfv which typical person would take as specific to gfv. Disney is in illegal territory and subject to FTC fines if they are using deceptive marketing tactics or

 

[tidefan]

I'm sure others saw, but this is in the email that just went out, and based on the ending year is clearly specific to VGF:

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Proposed Resort Studios at The Villas at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort & Spa are under construction and are projected to open Summer 2022. Actual room views will vary. Fixtures and furnishings are subject to change. All accommodations are subject to availability. Membership in The Villas at Disney’s Grand Floridian Resort & Spa requires purchasing a deeded ownership interest that expires January 31, 2064, and typically ranges in price from $32,000 to $58,000 (subject to change). Not an offer where registration or other legal requirements for timeshare solicitation have not been met. For additional information, please visit the General Product, State, & Country Disclosures.​

So, one thing here that I don't think people are considering is the time value of the points. I paid $145/pt for 100 points when it went on sale to DVC members the first time. So a total of 5,000 points over the life of the contract for a total of $14,500. That works out to $2.90 per point over the life of the contract.

Fast forward to this announcement. The association ends in Jan 2064, so that leaves 40 years on the contract. Let's say pricing is $210 a point (just for argument's sake). For 100 points, that's a total of 4,000 points over the life of the contract for a total of $21,000. That works out to $5.25 per point over the life of the contract.

 

[Marionnette]

I agree it’s vague, but current members can buy a 50 point contract so if they were advertising current member price it would be much lower.

50 points may not be a "typical" contract size. They aren't advertising a price per point. They're advertising a range that represents what their statics show to be typical contract sizes.

 

[Bjaiken77]

Has anyone called their guide? They present that as an option for getting more information. It probably won’t help, but curious if anyone tried.

 

[stwaldman]

Has anyone called their guide? They present that as an option for getting more information. It probably won’t help, but curious if anyone tried.

a few folks have and have been told sales guides are still in the dark, although if you're asking "has anybody done it in the last 15 minutes", well, probz not

 

[nuhusky123]

Has anyone called their guide? They present that as an option for getting more information. It probably won’t help, but curious if anyone tried.

My guide called me today and we discussed March 3. They have no info willing to share on price

she Will be calling again March 3

I said over and over price is king and it needs to be low $200 for me to buy she kept saying she hopes so too as she wants to buy. Let’s see

 

[Bjaiken77]

a few folks have and have been told sales guides are still in the dark, although if you're asking "has anybody done it in the last 15 minutes", well, probz not

That is what I expected. It’s just so sad how they roll things out. It seems like they choose to leave people in the dark as long as possible. If they are starting to sell March 3, I refuse to believe they haven’t established a price.

 

[SusieQ93]

Haha…look at all the speculative math we have to do because they won’t just say the price.

But as someone said, what the heck will we all talk about once price is released?

 

[lowlight]

That is what I expected. It’s just so sad how they roll things out. It seems like they choose to leave people in the dark as long as possible. If they are starting to sell March 3, I refuse to believe they haven’t established a price.

I think it’s because they don’t want to kill interest on BLT incentives until they are over.

 

[Sandisw]

I think the newest email supports that we are looking around $213/pt as baseprice for VGF as it mentions it in relation to the resort.

So, I am definitely feeling confident with my $215 guess from yesterday!

 

[Bjaiken77]

I think it’s because they don’t want to kill interest on BLT incentives until they are over.

Maybe, but it’s hard when you are talking about the dollar amounts. I know that Disney is going to do what’s best for Disney, but a lot of us are seeing if this can be in our budget.

 

[SusieQ93]

I think the newest email leads that we are looking around $213/pt as base
price for VGF as it mentions it in relation to the resort.

So, I am definitely feeling confident with my $215 guess from yesterday

That sounds like a reasonable assumption. I hope you’re right! I’m in at that price. It sets VGF slightly above as the “crown jewel” in their words but not so high that they won’t be able to sell it. Could help boost Riviera sales too if a potential buyer isn’t married to either resort and wants to save a bit.

 

[lowlight]

My other question besides price is will the new rooms be available to current VGF owners immediately, or will there be some way they give new purchasers a head start to book? It would feel crummy to buy 150 points and all new studios are booked immediately by existing members. This doesn’t happen with new resorts because there are no current owners, but I don’t know what happens with villa add ons.

 

[nuhusky123]

But as someone said, what the heck will we all talk about once price is released?

That’s easy, we will debate vgf is either under or overpriced

 

[Bjaiken77]

Yeah, $213 puts it in range for us too! It’s also going to be interesting to see incentives because that may determine the points we buy. That’s why we are trying to save as much as possible. We want to make sure we have enough money to buy the amount of points that makes most sense based on price break.

 

[lowlight]

That’s easy, we will debate vgf is either under or overpriced

Or whether Riviera or VGF is really the crown jewel based on price. If they are exactly the same heads will explode.

 

[nuhusky123]

Or whether Riviera or VGF is really the crown jewel based on price. If they are exactly the same heads will explode.

Let’s start

@$214 dvc just made clear riv is inferior to gfv

too bad universal owns rights to dr seuss, Disney could make a killing selling sneetches shirts at gfv gift shop

 

[Sandisw]

My other question besides price is will the new rooms be available to current VGF owners immediately, or will there be some way they give new purchasers a head start to book? It would feel crummy to buy 150 points and all new studios are booked immediately by existing members. This doesn’t happen with new resorts because there are no current owners, but I don’t know what happens with villa add ons.

I do not think they can’t legally hold back inventory for the new rooms from current VGF owners as it’s the same resort. As part of the same association, all points are eligible for booking.

Now, new points deeded to the new rooms won’t be eligible for use anywhere until these rooms open. But, once these rooms are set for booking, it will be everyone with points there.

Since summer is less than 7 months, they will most likely give allVgF owners some time to book before non resort owners for those dates.

 

[stwaldman]

Let’s start

@$214 dvc just made clear riv is inferior to gfv

too bad universal owns rights to dr seuss, Disney could make a killing selling sneetches shirts at gfv gift shop

yes, but how many $pp is the 6 years fewer on the contract worth. That might be worth *TWO CROWN JEWELS*