The VGF 2 pricing thread

[RamblinWreck]

I can confirm, I just received an email from my guide telling me price on March 31st will be $207 pp. no mention of incentives and I didn’t ask because I figure she can’t tell me so what’s the point?

You need to talk to Ricardo.

He’ll get you 2021 points plus a few extra, and all you’ll have to do is pay $33 extra per point!

 

[RoseGold]

What on earth happened to VGF resale? There's almost nothing on the market now! Listing prices from the 170s all the way up to 220s.

This is all over the place! Obviously, there are some unrealistic sellers out there, but I bet a lot of VGF resellers just left the market for now. I know I'd rent points for a year and then try again, if I could. Can't compete with $179 direct.

 

[stwaldman]

What on earth happened to VGF resale? There's almost nothing on the market now! Listing prices from the 170s all the way up to 220s.

This is all over the place! Obviously, there are some unrealistic sellers out there, but I bet a lot of VGF resellers just left the market for now. I know I'd rent points for a year and then try again, if I could. Can't compete with $179 direct.

I would think you had some people who listed in the last month or few, hoping the opening price would be in that 220-250 range a lot of people expected and they'd be first to market to get a good offer, and when it was 207 they either immediately exited (like you suggest, either to use or rent), or left it up at the same high price hoping maybe the new owner price (still technically unconfirmed) would see a hike.

Anybody truly in a need to sell probably let their price go through the floor and already took the first acceptable offer than came in for their financial needs, and what's left is either people hoping for a near term direct price hike or just people who havent bothered adjusting their asking price yet. I know elsewhere on the boards people have mentioned getting points in the 150s or 160s right at the time the resort went back on sale.

 

[Matty B13]

This is all over the place! Obviously, there are some unrealistic sellers out there, but I bet a lot of VGF resellers just left the market for now. I know I'd rent points for a year and then try again, if I could. Can't compete with $179 direct.

This is what we are doing right now, waiting to list our June UY contract, while we are adding to our February UY. Going to rent out our 2022 & 2023 points and maybe list them for sale in late 2023.

 

[sndral]

What on earth happened to VGF resale? There's almost nothing on the market now! Listing prices from the 170s all the way up to 220s.

This is all over the place! Obviously, there are some unrealistic sellers out there, but I bet a lot of VGF resellers just left the market for now. I know I'd rent points for a year and then try again, if I could. Can't compete with $179 direct.

For smaller contracts you aren’t competing w/ $179 direct, under 125 points you’re competing w/ $207 & if you aren’t already a member you can’t buy fewer than 150 points direct.
I’d been wanting to add on to my VGF points for a couple of years & thus casually kept an eye on VGF resale listings & IME VGF resale listings have always been pretty sparse which makes sense when you compare VGF1‘s 2.5M points w/ the bigger resorts like SSR w/ its’ 14M points & always abundant resale listings.
When VGF2 sells out I expect there to be more VGF resale contracts listed because there’ll be more points - 4.3M, so more like current Poly listings - w/ its’ 4M points.
In the short term w/ a robust rental market & w/ VGF being an in demand resort on that market why would an owner compete w/ DVC direct sales prices when more than likely if they hold on until VGF sells out they’ll see higher resale prices?

 

[KAT4DISNEY]

What on earth happened to VGF resale? There's almost nothing on the market now! Listing prices from the 170s all the way up to 220s.

This is all over the place! Obviously, there are some unrealistic sellers out there, but I bet a lot of VGF resellers just left the market for now. I know I'd rent points for a year and then try again, if I could. Can't compete with $179 direct.

It's a small association that has always had minimal resale contracts available. I think there may have been a few that thought what the heck when they saw the prices. It was crossing my mind. It would have been a high price with no negotiating.

 

[Paul Stupin]

As others have commented, I’d just wait a year or two for VGF2 to sell out then put my resale back on the market at the same high price contracts were going for last month.

 

[RamblinWreck]

As others have commented, I’d just wait a year or two for VGF2 to sell out then put my resale back on the market at the same high price contracts were going for last month.

But in the meantime, if you are on the hunt for a resale contract, keep your eye out for new listings from people who may not feel like they can wait that long!

 

[Paul Stupin]

But in the meantime, if you are on the hunt for a resale contract, keep your eye out for new listings from people who may not feel like they can wait that long!

True! I just bought, though, several VGF2 contracts direct. I have quite a few resale points, but the resale process for me is now just too much of a drag, and I want the direct points to stay at Riviera and all the exciting new resorts going forward!

 

[RamblinWreck]

True! I just bought, though, several VGF2 contracts direct. I have quite a few resale points, but the resale process for me is now just too much of a drag, and I want the direct points to stay at Riviera and all the exciting new resorts going forward!

Makes sense!

I am 100% going to be kicking myself if this ridiculous deal I got on a VGF resale contract gets ROFR'd and then I'm not able to take full advantage of the direct incentives anymore.

 

[DVChris]

I am 100% going to be kicking myself if this ridiculous deal I got on a VGF resale contract gets ROFR'd and then I'm not able to take full advantage of the direct incentives anymore.

Speak with a CM about your situation. I spoke with mine recently and we have a good timeline plan for GF2 since I am adding a new UY and in the process of adding a resale to it first.

 

[RamblinWreck]

Speak with a CM about your situation. I spoke with mine recently and we have a good timeline plan for GF2 since I am adding a new UY and in the process of adding a resale to it first.

The cynic in me says that if I tell a CM that I would likely buy direct if a resale contract I just sent to ROFR gets taken... that nothing good can come from that.

 

[Sandisw]

The cynic in me says that if I tell a CM that I would likely buy direct if a resale contract I just sent to ROFR gets taken... that nothing good can come from that.

Or, just agree to buy right before end of the month and hope you hear within the 10 day cancel window.

Worst case, you don’t have ROFR info and cancel, and miss the incentives.

Honestly, I will be shocked for them to ROFR VGF with close the millions of points they have to sell now.

 

[iluvthsgam]

Or, just agree to buy right before end of the month and hope you hear within the 10 day cancel window.

Worst case, you don’t have ROFR info and cancel, and miss the incentives.

Honestly, I will be shocked for them to ROFR VGF with close the millions of points they have to sell now.

This is a good plan. When you cancel in the 10-day window - has anyone heard of trying to get them to do a new contract with the pre 3/31 incentives? I doubt they would, but maybe?

 

[Sandisw]

This is a good plan. When you cancel in the 10-day window - has anyone heard of trying to get them to do a new contract with the pre 3/31 incentives? I doubt they would, but maybe?

If you do the contract before the 31st to lock in the incentives, and then cancel that contract during the 10 day window, they won’t let you get those incentives still in a new contract.


Now, the incentives are better after the 31st, they will redo the contract for you to get the better incentives.

 

[BWV Dreamin]

For smaller contracts you aren’t competing w/ $179 direct, under 125 points you’re competing w/ $207 & if you aren’t already a member you can’t buy fewer than 150 points direct.
I’d been wanting to add on to my VGF points for a couple of years & thus casually kept an eye on VGF resale listings & IME VGF resale listings have always been pretty sparse which makes sense when you compare VGF1‘s 2.5M points w/ the bigger resorts like SSR w/ its’ 14M points & always abundant resale listings.
When VGF2 sells out I expect there to be more VGF resale contracts listed because there’ll be more points - 4.3M, so more like current Poly listings - w/ its’ 4M points.
In the short term w/ a robust rental market & w/ VGF being an in demand resort on that market why would an owner compete w/ DVC direct sales prices when more than likely if they hold on until VGF sells out they’ll see higher resale prices?

If they are a small point owner, those contracts should still command a premium. New owners must purchase 150 points.

 

[pianomanzano]

What on earth happened to VGF resale? There's almost nothing on the market now! Listing prices from the 170s all the way up to 220s.

This is all over the place! Obviously, there are some unrealistic sellers out there, but I bet a lot of VGF resellers just left the market for now. I know I'd rent points for a year and then try again, if I could. Can't compete with $179 direct.

I was on the hunt for cheap VGF1 resale points right when VGF2 went on sale. A handful of sellers pulled their contracts as I was making offers in the $150-160pp range.

 

[AmyPK]

They are smoking something

I guess you never know…

 

[nuhusky123]

I know this has been answered but I couldn’t find it

when can we book resort studios via the online tool?

 

[stwaldman]

I know this has been answered but I couldn’t find it

when can we book resort studios via the online tool?

Edited, I thought the post said where,not when. Nevermind.