The State Department advises U.S. citizens to reconsider foreign travel - update on 3/11, page 8.

Everyone is a risk to spreading it. Even people who are asymptomatic or only show limited symptoms can spread it.
I think you guys are saying the same thing. I could be wrong, but that’s how I’m reading it. It’s often hard to convey your meaning on message boards.
Sadly I think you are very right and very wrong. You say "Cruise ships aren't getting quarantined because of kids." and that is 100% correct. Unfortunately this does nothing to help society overall. Right now every cruise ship except Viking and Princess seem to be operating under our first impressions of COVID-19, that it isnt a problem unless you have symptoms. This no longer seems to line up with the evidence we are actually seeing though. It seems that the virus can spread before you show symptoms, even if it is spreading in a lesser concentration (what limited research shows) it is still spreading.

FWIW, to me (an opinion formulated by reading many scientific/ limited research papers), it doesnt seem like anyone is more susceptible to catching the virus. That rate actually seems fairly equal across all ages (maybe a slight gender disparity). Where the elderly, immuno compromised, heart/ lung patients have an issue is that COVID-19 is more likely to progress into something more severe and possibly life threatening. The scary thing about this is that you have plenty of people walking around without knowing there are sick and spreading COVID-19 because they dont have symptoms and we've bought into this false sense of security that as long as no one has a fever things are fine. Breaking the cycles as much as possible by limiting non essential social gatherings is the thing that may make a huge difference. But this wont work if only one sector of the population refrains from public gatherings, or at least it will take a much longer period of limited gatherings to be effective.
We have had a detailed discussion of the the infection rates up in the thread. Feel free to give it a read and respond if you feel differently.

Yes, apparently we are saying the same thing, but it is important to highlight that, while everyone is a potential risk, the level of risk may differ among demographics. And this is a critical piece of detail we need to allocate public health and societal resources in order to solve the crisis - while making sure those affected the most don't pose any further risk to the larger society and vice versa.

Labeling everyone a risk doesn't solve the public health crisis. It doesn't help feed them, doesn't help care for them, doesn't help find a cure - it simply locks everyone up the same way.
 
Sadly I think you are very right and very wrong. You say "Cruise ships aren't getting quarantined because of kids." and that is 100% correct. Unfortunately this does nothing to help society overall. Right now every cruise ship except Viking and Princess seem to be operating under our first impressions of COVID-19, that it isnt a problem unless you have symptoms. This no longer seems to line up with the evidence we are actually seeing though. It seems that the virus can spread before you show symptoms, even if it is spreading in a lesser concentration (what limited research shows) it is still spreading.

FWIW, to me (an opinion formulated by reading many scientific/ limited research papers), it doesnt seem like anyone is more susceptible to catching the virus. That rate actually seems fairly equal across all ages (maybe a slight gender disparity). Where the elderly, immuno compromised, heart/ lung patients have an issue is that COVID-19 is more likely to progress into something more severe and possibly life threatening. The scary thing about this is that you have plenty of people walking around without knowing there are sick and spreading COVID-19 because they dont have symptoms and we've bought into this false sense of security that as long as no one has a fever things are fine. Breaking the cycles as much as possible by limiting non essential social gatherings is the thing that may make a huge difference. But this wont work if only one sector of the population refrains from public gatherings, or at least it will take a much longer period of limited gatherings to be effective.

As another aside I had a visit with my doctor today. We discussed our trip to Italy. She said it was really to early to call but she gave it decent odds that in that time frame Italians wont want us visiting them. She also reiterated (that in her medical opinion) she didnt feel I was more susceptible but that if I caughyt it the results could be worse. For all those on Remicade that are out there wondering, in her opinion my treatment options were not limited because of the infusions. Live vaccines are the only thing that would be a problem for me because of this med. Unfortunately I had my second anaphylactic reaction to the infusion. Waiting on bloodwork to see if I can even continue or if I need to start searching for new meds to control my Crohn's disease. That means more time in a medical setting over the next couple of months than I had planned to do. That's making me far more nervous than the trip to Italy in May. It's been a real crap day for me. :(
Know what you mean. Our DD has Juvenile Arthritis. One weird thing, one of the JA parent's forwarded this out. Maybe these biologics can actually help here too...

https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/roche-actemra-coronavirus-complications/
 
Only about 11k total Americans had even been tested as of yesterday. So all American numbers are suspect.
Actually, I believe that the 11,000 is the number of tests that have been conducted, but each person requires two and sometimes more tests. So, in actuality, we've tested closer to 5000 people.

Oh, and just in case anyone is wondering if we should believe people in government who are telling us that tests are available, after the congressional hearings with the CDC today, a Republican senator said that we're still two weeks away from widespread testing. He added that it's "not accurate" that anyone who needs a test can get one.
 

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