The Sopranos final episodes (SPOILERS!!!)

[Cogswel_Cogs]

It just she seemed nervous and frustrated and couldn't park her car.
She just came from a doctors appointment.

 

[ChrisAlli]

The man who played the "mystery guy" lives and owns a pizza shop local to me.

I have a feeling he's pretty busy today making pizza and trying to tell people he has no idea what happened to Tony.

Maybe pizza for dinner tonight

 

[beattyfamily]

The man who played the "mystery guy" lives and owns a pizza shop local to me.

I have a feeling he's pretty busy today making pizza and trying to tell people he has no idea what happened to Tony.

Maybe pizza for dinner tonight

Oh my, can you imagine. What a lucky break for him to be a part of it.

I just found out in the last week or so that the Bada Bang club is in Lodi, near where I used to live! How neat!

 

[DISUNC]

I'm starting to think there just wasn't an end. I think Chase is just sitting back and laughing about everyone speculating and reading into things trying to find a hidden meaning when there is none. Jerk.

Big Jerk!
Big Stoopid jerk!

 

[DISUNC]

It just she seemed nervous and frustrated and couldn't park her car.
She just came from a doctors appointment.

For NEW contraception!

 

[ChrisAlli]

Oh my, can you imagine. What a lucky break for him to be a part of it.

I just found out in the last week or so that the Bada Bang club is in Lodi, near where I used to live! How neat!

Apparently, a local talent agent was looking for an Italian guy for the part and she was in his pizza shop, and the rest is history. First acting job for him. Pretty cool.

 

[floridafam]

Why did Carmela make a point of mentioning to Tony that Meadow was at the Dr. for new birth control?

 

[dvcfamily41801]

The man who played the "mystery guy" lives and owns a pizza shop local to me.

I have a feeling he's pretty busy today making pizza and trying to tell people he has no idea what happened to Tony.

Maybe pizza for dinner tonight

Hi neighbor!!!

 

[DISUNC]

I just wish that David Chase would just let everyone have fun with the different endings and then finally say how he intended it to be.

He will make you PAY for that on the 'special collectors edition" DVD!

 

[dvcfamily41801]

He will make you PAY for that on the 'special collectors edition" DVD!

Thats okay!!!! I sure hope there is a lot of behind the scenes stuff on there!!!

 

[bengalbelle]

I like the ending for several reasons. First its totally open to interpretation as so many here are doing. Second the ending suggests that in light of the death, the fear, the evil people that so many of the characters are that life just goes on. Many people wanted the show to end with Tony getting whacked and them getting closure, but the reality for Tony living his life is much harder than just getting killed. There were hints throughout the show that in small ways resolved each characters situation and the overall irony of the fact that the family could go from living in hiding with the fear of death one day to right back to their normal lives the next. Tony gets the sit down with the New York family minus Phil and rather than being pissed that they killed Bobby, negotiates a settlement for Janice his sister. He would be more annoyed listening to Janice whine about what she's going to do than he is about Bobby actually getting killed. AJ goes from attempting suicide and fearing the decay of civilization, to being an enviromentalist not caring about his SUV burning up and deciding to take the bus, to not minding driving the BMW because "hey, it gets 23 miles a gallon, and thats not bad". Tony takes care of him by getting him set up with Carmine to help with producing a movie to a promise of eventually getting his own nightclub to run. It's like AJ went through his discovery phase of life and is ready to settle into his niche in life prospering from his fathers activities. Meadow wants to become a lawyer and part of the reasoning she gives Tony is because she's tired of the government picking on minorities. I mean after all she has seen how poorly they treat Italian Americans based on all the warrents they have executed to search her own (Tony's) house. Can you say Mob Lawyer! Carmen is in total fear when asked to run by Tony, but the very day the "war" ends she has an appointment with her builder to start working on her next house she is going to flip. The whole theme of the show from the outset was life goes on.

Even Paulie sitting in front of the Pigstand working on his tan suggests that through all the changes, the death, the deciet, and the crime, life goes on. I did like the idea of the cat being the reincarnation of Adrian and thought it was interesting that it only bothered Paulie. Seems he is the only one with any smidgeon of a consious about the things they do.

Finally, the killing of Phil was in my way of thinking a goodbye to the old Mob mentality. He was old school, mad because Tony has never done any real prison time, mad because made men are not made to spill blood at their ceremony. Ready to declare war at the drop of a hat. While the New York guys Tony met with would not give up Phils location they understood why Tony felt the need to kill him. They even admitted he had crossed the line.

His death just signalled the end of the old Mob, and the start of the new Mob that has to exsist in todays world, and deal with the same problems of family and everyday life that the rest of us have to deal with.

In my ending Tony does'nt get killed, he has a much worse fate, he has to go on living his life.

Also as a last thought, I thought the whole scene at the end of Meadow having trouble parking the car was a nod from Chase to all the people who wrote and pursued spoilers about the final episode. After all the ruckos over the spoilers for the last episode of Lost it was his way of setting us up to think Meadow was going to killed like the spoilers said but she wasn't. There was anticipation as she tried again and again to park but couldn't, and then as she ran across the rod was she going to get run over? Chase threw that in the face of all those who thought they knew the ending.

That's exactly what I was getting at but you said it so much better .

While it would have been a "great" ending if Tony had died, I didn't want that to happen. Nor did I want him to become a snitch or end up in jail. In my ending, things are exactly as they should be.

I couldn't help but giggle when Paulie whipped out the reflector thing and started working on his tan. I'd forgotten about that until you mentioned it. If anything this episode made me miss the first few seasons. I'll have to pull out those DVD's!

 

[madge]

It just she seemed nervous and frustrated and couldn't park her car.
She just came from a doctors appointment.

Carmella told Tony, at the restaurant, that Meadow was at the doctor's office... changing her birth control. I don't think she'd be doing that if pregnant.

 

[LisaB]

Artie Bucco is on Law and Order on TNT right now. My hairdresser's ex husband played one of Phil's crew.

 

[lulu71]

I still hate the non-ending. but thanks for the laugh! Yeah Paulie with a conscious that's hilarious. A man who killed a waiter cause he asked about the tip, who made a profit off of the Church Carnival, who beat up and threatened to kill a man when he wanted to get out of the trash business after his father died if he didn't continue and keep paying Paulie, After killing the guys in the apartment took all the money in the freezer and wasn't going to tell Tony, the Russian in the pine barrens, His method fro getting his Mom friends in the home,Do I need to continue.

I agree with you completely. Paulie is the biggest sociopath of the bunch. The scene with him killing that old lady was just awful. As he would say - Madon!

 

[daisax]

I don't see how ANY ending would have satisfied anybody, let alone everybody.

If Tony's gunned down while his family watches -- we'd all be saying "omg, how will they go on, having seen THAT!"

If the whole family is gunned down, we'd be saying it was overkill.

If nothing happened at all, we'd be saying 'whaaaa?"

If Tony got arrested, we'd be left wondering what happens from here and complaining that it was because it was setting up the movie.

If Tony turned rat, we'd be wondering if they could make a go of it in East Overshoe, Nebraska, and debating if he really, truly, would ever have turned rat.

Every single conceivable ending would leave unanswered questions and loose ends. This ending permits each viewer to provide his/her own.

 

[Cogswel_Cogs]

I don't think she would tell her mom I am going down to the doctors to verify my pregnancy.

 

[Figment22]

Put me in the "I was disappointed with the ending" camp. I didn't find it brilliant; I thought it was a cop out. Choose your own adventure/Make your own sundae doesn't work for me. Chase set us up right at the beginning of the episode though as the old Vanilla Fudge version of "You Keep Me Hangin' On" was playing as Tony awoke. It was also on the car radio a little later in the episode.

OTOH, I did think it was a good episode up to the final moment. We did get closure in several areas. Phil got what was coming to him. Tony did what he needed to take care of Janice and the Bacalieri kids. We did find out that there was a rat in their midst, but that it wasn't Paulie or Patsy as had been so widely speculated. Tony went to see Junior, which I didn't think would happen and he visited Silvio, whom we needed to see. (I've been reading on other forums that people thought they saw Sil's finger move when Tony grabbed his hand. I didn't catch that; did anyone here?)

About AJ, before he mentioned about the catalytic converter and the leaves, am I the only one who thought that the car might have been sabotaged in some way? That was my first thought. "Yeets" had me Then, I felt embarrassed for AJ.

I laughed when Agent Harris said, "We're going to win this thing!" and then felt badly for him. He's so deep into the terrorism hunt now that the mafia chase looks like fun at this point. I'll bet that the Feds had a pool going on as to which side would come out on top.

Right after the episode ended, I was at the DirecTV website. Buh-bye HBO!

My DW has an interesting take on the ending.

Chase just screwed all the odds makers in Vegas on "Does Tony Live or Die?"

This is great. Hadn't thought of that one.

I was feeling extremely paranoid in the end when they were showing all the different shots of people in the diner. I think that may have been the point - that if you choose the life of crime career path (like Tony) you have to maintain a constant heightened state of awareness/paranoia.

I certainly felt the paranoia, but I think it belonged to the viewing audience alone. Tony didn't seem all that paranoid to me, he seemed relatively comfortable that he had made his peace with NY and that the hit was no longer on, which makes me believe the "life goes on" train of thought.
I also don't agree that the guy went into the bathroom to get a gun. In The Godfather it had to be set up that way because they knew that Michael Corleone would be patted down for weapons before Solozzo and McCloskey would let him get into the car, so he couldn't have a piece on him. There would be no reason for this guy to have stashed a weapon in the bathroom. If he was going to shoot Tony, he would have just come in guns blazing. It was just a way to increase OUR sense of dread.

i BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE "WENT TO ALL BLACK THEORY"!
That would have been good...IF the whole series was thru Tony's eyes....and IF WE saw the murderer!

See, I agree with this. We weren't seeing the episode in the first person, so I don't think Tony dies (at that moment). His (and his family's) life goes on. We, as the viewers, just don't get to see it anymore; hence the blackness.

I thought the ending was brillant after pondering it awhile. Just like the song don't stop believing it just goes on and on and on and on. Make your own conclusions about what happens. It ended up the ducks.

I did think that the ducks would return during that scene in the backyard where Tony's holding the rake and Carmela comes out to tell him where they're going for dinner, didn't you? Yes. It ended up being the ducks.

Finally, the killing of Phil was in my way of thinking a goodbye to the old Mob mentality. He was old school, mad because Tony has never done any real prison time, mad because made men are not made to spill blood at their ceremony. Ready to declare war at the drop of a hat. While the New York guys Tony met with would not give up Phils location they understood why Tony felt the need to kill him. They even admitted he had crossed the line.

His death just signalled the end of the old Mob, and the start of the new Mob that has to exsist in todays world, and deal with the same problems of family and everyday life that the rest of us have to deal with.

In my ending Tony does'nt get killed, he has a much worse fate, he has to go on living his life.

Great analysis.

I just found out in the last week or so that the Bada Bang club is in Lodi, near where I used to live! How neat!

Yup. Satin Dolls on Route 17 South.

That made me laugh too, when Paulie says he was at the club and saw a vision of the Virgin Mary. Our Lady of the Bada Bing.


Farewell to The Sopranos. I will miss the show and the characters.

 

[disneyfan67]

I just got done re watching it and you can determine whatever ending you would like, I guess.

I'm pretty sure that there's enough interpretation from David Chase that if the time comes, they're will be a full length, feature movie. People can change their mind if enough cash is put in front of them. Never say, never, as the old saying goes.

I could see the actor who pays Tony, signing on to do a movie in a year or two, if paid 15 million or so and a cut of the back end of the movie, (I.E. Johnny Depp) Everyone has a price.

Everyone else would probably jump at the chance to make some real coin, especially after their careers hit the dreaded slow down and say they're typecast and can't get regular work.

 

[alldiz]

Hmmmmm....
Oh....what makes you think meadow is preggars?/
Kerri

It just she seemed nervous and frustrated and couldn't park her car.
She just came from a doctors appointment.

Thanks..I forgot she came home from the doctors....
Can you imagine that is how the movie opens...

We all think someone is gettin whacked...and meadow
comes in and says she is pregnant

Oh Pleeeeeese someone announce the movie production has
been scheduled
Kerri

 

[Cass]

Oh Pleeeeeese someone announce the movie production has
been scheduled

I read in The Star, that filming begins in December - but of course, this is THE STAR