The saga of Baby M....update in post 80

Whew. Hard stuff, the waiting...

We had a situation about four and a half years ago...

The father was out to sea... the mother was, let's just leave it at... we went to get the baby one weekend, and kept him for nearly two years until the father could get out of the service...

We still have his room. :teeth: He visits now with his Da, and really looks forward to having a room all his own. It's set up so others who visit could easily use it (with a few quick things tucked here and there) but we still call it "his" room. ::yes::

We've gone from the crib stage (gave that to someone who needed one when he had outgrown it) to the twin bed stage, and from the stuffed animals to the Legos... :teeth: (But we still have that special one there, eh)?

We have a little bookcase chock full of books for him, that is easily transformed by dropping a decorative cloth over it...

We have two guest rooms, one for adults (queen bed...) and this one.

All that to say, you can plan to have a room for the little one, yet still make it useful to you until she gets there. Because she will get there. :hug:
 
I am really not a happy camper right now. It has nothing to do with anything that Gabby's family has done, this time it is my dad and his wife, Val. A couple of times throughout the past few months, I have mentioned some of what was going on with Gabby's family to my dad or Val. I never fully went into the details until last week, because until last week, we were not on the list of people that could possibly take the baby.

I told my dad and Val what was going on and that we were going to communicate our willingness to take the baby, if the need arose. They both were skeptical about us taking the baby, mostly because of the potential special needs that she may have due to F's drug use during her pregnancy. However, I explained that even a healthy child at birth, or two, or five has the potential to become special needs via car wreck, random accident, illness, etc. They were a bit better about it after I put it that way.

I know that Val is difficult in that she is opinionated, religious in the holier than thou sort of way, a bit racist, and still a bit homophobic. I know that my dad has come a long way in the process of breaking out of is homophobia, thanks to me, and his racism, largely thanks to me also. I will say that the standing rule in the house when I was a teenager was that I would be in a world of trouble if I ended up pregnant out of wedlock, and if it was a black boy's baby, that I best not even try to come into the house ever again.

I made a comment last week near the end of the conversation about Baby M to Val that was something to the effect of "Who knows, one day, Gabby and I could be coming to see y'all with a precious little brown baby girl in our arms." That is when the fecal matter hit the fan. Val proceeded to question why the baby was a black baby. I explained that F is mixed and baby daddy is black. She said, "I don't think that your dad is going to like that much," and in shock, I said, "It's not like I gave birth to the child," which I immediately regretted having said because I could care less what color the baby is, it was just more of a programmed response to the crap that I heard all through my childhood and teen years. I just wrapped things up quickly at that point and got off the phone. I tried to keep a positive attitude about my father's potential reaction to this information because my ex-stepmother, June, said "I don't think that your dad is going to like that much," to me when she pushed me about my sexual orientation and I came out to her. He wasn't dancing a jig about the news that I was a lesbian, but he didn't kick me out of his life or anything. I thought that my dad would be able to see beyond the baby's color and see that if we ended up with the precious little peanut that it was because we were doing the right thing. I told Gabby about the conversation and we agreed that Val is a racist pig.

Flash forward to this weekend....
Daddy called me to give me an update on his condition, he had minor surgery on Wednesday, and after giving me a more or less good update on that, he then launched into a discussion to attempt to talk me out of wanting to adopt the baby. I swear, he treated me like I was 14 years old, pregnant, and wanting to keep the out of wedlock baby or something. He tried to explain how this would change my life forever. DUH! He tried to explain that this was a large responsibility. DUH! He tried to explain that we would have no pick up and go freedom anymore. DUH! I told him that I knew all of that and that Gabby and I have spent months off and on talking this to death discussing all of the ways that this would effect our lives and went into the details with him on all of those aspects. He then made a comment that was more or less accusitory towards Gabby, like she was pushing me into this, which if anything, I have pushed her in this, not the other way around. I again told him that Gabby and I have agreed to take this on after months of discussion and careful consideration, if it comes up at all. He then backed off on it and changed the subject.

Gabby overheard the discussion because I was talking to him on my cell, which has a speaker phone feature that I prefer to use rather than holding the phone to my ear. I hung up and was mad, but trying not to let myself believe that my father was so freakin' narrowminded, but after a discussion about the call, we both agree that the tone that he had and the way that things were being said was more or less a discussion based on the fact that they don't want a black grandchild. Well, you know what, I don't go down to see him much as it is because the smoke in the house gives me scary bad asthma attacks, and I would not ever take a child into that house. The place is neat and clean, but is disgustingly smokey icky. If we adopt Baby M, she may never know one of her grandaddy's outside of a voice on the phone and a handful of pictures that are in the house.

I am so freakin' angry and disappointed right now. I really thought my dad was a better man than this. :sad2:
 
Ugh! :hug:

I'm glad that you're on the list for a possible future placement. I'm also glad that the rehab centre sounds serious about making sure F is successful before they let her go. She's got a lot more time there, so, hopefully, they'll get through to her.

I'm sorry about your Dad.
 
Maggie, I mean this with love, so don't be angry with me. This is cart before the horse. Your don't have custody yet. Your dad hasn't met the baby yet. Once the baby is settled in your home (if it comes to that) and your dad meets her, he will likely regret saying ugly things about her.

Yes, he is being mean. But I also think I hear a little bit of fear in his words. He is worried about how the baby might negatively change your life without stopping to think how much joy she will bring. He is worried about other people saying mean things to you, because families who are different invariably invite ALL KINDS of comments. :sad2: Maybe he figures if he says mean things he will talk you out of wanting the baby, thus sparing you heartache down the road. You know him, so if you can set your anger aside for a minute and think about his words maybe his motivation isn't as hateful as it seems on the surface. If it turns out that he is just mean and spiteful, then you go from there. Later. Not today.

Sending you and Gabby lots of hugs and good thoughts!! :hug::wizard:
 

I don't know your Dad at all, so really can't comment much other than to say I'm sorry it was such a stressful conversation.

I can tell you this much though, often parents react strongly and poorly when faced with being the grandparent to an unexpected child, regardless of color, ability, etc...

And almost as often, one peek at the precious child is all it takes to turn that fear into love.

So, he may not be starting out in the optimal manner, but he really could come over all gooey, baby cha cha once he sees her. ::yes:: Somewhere other than that smoke laden house though! :eek:
 
I realize that this is still a "may happen" not an "is happening" situation. I am an only child and so is my dad. Val has three children, 5 or 6 grandchildren, and one great grandchild. Dad is known to the grandkids as Mr. Henry, but I do think that the great grand is calling him Grandpa Henry. It's not like he doesn't have the grandchild experience going on already. He knows that I always have loved kids and used to say that if I didn't have a child by age 32, that I was going to adopt. Well, I am 42, so if this happens, it's just 10 years off of what I had planned many years ago.

I would like to say that what was said was said in a manner of the concerned father just checking to see where my head was at, but the tone said differently. I am very much my father's child. We have similar temperment, which admittedly is not always a good thing.

If he had come out and said, "Hey, I am curious if you have given much thought to what this would mean in terms of you guys being lesbians and raising a child of a different race," then I would have gladly told him outright about our discussions on those issues and how we would hope to handle things, but instead he just railed at me with these questions that honestly insulted my intelligence and my relationship. It was so obvious to me that he was doing his best to talk me completely out of this.

I am going to let the topic drop with him and if it comes up again, with similar comments out of his mouth, I am afraid that I am going to have to have some really harsh words for him and Val. I am not a child and I don't rush into life altering decisions without lots of thought and prayer about the consequences. This is one consequence that I had considered, but I had been hoping that he had grown more than he has. I am pretty sure that Val has been working on him all week. :sad2:

Honestly, if they don't behave and this does come to pass, I am half considering taking out a full page ad in the local paper to announce the adoption, complete with picture of us with the baby. Did I mention that Val works for the newspaper? ;)
 
I realize that this is still a "may happen" not an "is happening" situation. I am an only child and so is my dad. Val has three children, 5 or 6 grandchildren, and one great grandchild. Dad is known to the grandkids as Mr. Henry, but I do think that the great grand is calling him Grandpa Henry. It's not like he doesn't have the grandchild experience going on already. He knows that I always have loved kids and used to say that if I didn't have a child by age 32, that I was going to adopt. Well, I am 42, so if this happens, it's just 10 years off of what I had planned many years ago.

I would like to say that what was said was said in a manner of the concerned father just checking to see where my head was at, but the tone said differently. I am very much my father's child. We have similar temperment, which admittedly is not always a good thing.

If he had come out and said, "Hey, I am curious if you have given much thought to what this would mean in terms of you guys being lesbians and raising a child of a different race," then I would have gladly told him outright about our discussions on those issues and how we would hope to handle things, but instead he just railed at me with these questions that honestly insulted my intelligence and my relationship. It was so obvious to me that he was doing his best to talk me completely out of this.

I am going to let the topic drop with him and if it comes up again, with similar comments out of his mouth, I am afraid that I am going to have to have some really harsh words for him and Val. I am not a child and I don't rush into life altering decisions without lots of thought and prayer about the consequences. This is one consequence that I had considered, but I had been hoping that he had grown more than he has. I am pretty sure that Val has been working on him all week. :sad2:

Honestly, if they don't behave and this does come to pass, I am half considering taking out a full page ad in the local paper to announce the adoption, complete with picture of us with the baby. Did I mention that Val works for the newspaper? ;)

:laughing::hug:
 












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