The Running Thread -- 2022

ATTQOTD: Like @HangWithMerida and FFigawi, I do both. 10-15 minutes warm-up and 10 minutes cool-down.

I also do some dynamic exercices like leg swings, toe/heel walks, bum kicks (dunno how to call them otherwise) and grapevines. In freezing temps, I do them indoors so my muscles are properly warmed up before hitting the pavement.

It's the best way I've found to stay injury free, or else I systematically end up at my physio's office. Especially in the winter.
 
ATTQOTD: Yes if it's a speed/tempo workout, no if it's just an easy or long run. Besides, I tend to run like a diesel--the first mile of an easy/long run is bound to be naturally 20-30 seconds slower than the others without even trying. Then I can generally get into an even pace rhythm.
Oh man, that's me too. That first mile is always the slowest.
 
ATTQOTD: I do a lot of iFit treadmill workouts and mosts of them include a warmup and cool down, but if I'm running on my own I'm too impatient or don't have/take the time to do much more than a minute or two on either end. I do try to stretch out afterward every time.
 
QOTD: Warm-ups and cool-downs? Do you do them? Sometimes? Every time? Never?

Well prior to this past year I just did some leg swings and went out. No warm up or cool down except on speed days where my @DopeyBadger plan had it prescribed. During this last injury though and i guess getting old, I have to warm up and i am cooling down even though cool down is 2 minutes of walking. My warmup now consists of walking down my parking garage to get outside and then my slow first mile of my work out. Like @jmasgat my first mile is about 30 seconds slower than the rest, if not more.
 

QOTD: Warm-ups and cool-downs? Do you do them? Sometimes? Every time? Never?


AttQOTD
My running time during the week (especially during the school year) completely revolves around nap time. When I do a treadmill run I always try to walk for 3min before I start my actual workout, and I try to do a couple of minutes of walking at the end. But it's nothing structured. I don't stretch unless I feel sore or tight specifically (except for after runs over like 8mi, which I have few of.) When I run outside I walk to the end of my driveway (0.25mi) and walk down it when my run is complete. I feel like I "should" do more, but adding on other stuff to the beginning or end of the run turns into me trading "running" time for "other stuff" time because I have to cram everything into an hour or less most of the time.
Previously I would spend a couple of minutes walking or jogging before any run to get my mind ready. It really wasn't anything physical. This all changed in January when I started visiting a PT for hip and knee pain. I now do a dynamic warm up before every run. Depending on the intensity and what kind of time I have, it may vary slightly but I make sure to do at least do some of it. As prescribed it should look something like: walking knee hugs, jog, walking quad stretch, jog, alternating one leg toe touch, jog, lunges, jog, skipping, jog.
I'm still learning to cool down after easy runs. I'll run a mile or so cool down after a tough workout and stretch but I really should stretch every time.
My club had their annual awards banquet last night and I did not win the outstanding improvement award.

But I did win the personal achievement award!!!!
Congrats!
 
ATTQOTD: I never used to do warm up or cool down unless it was in my plan. After last year’s IT band injury I am better at doing it. I have weak glutes and my left side was misfiring. After months of PT both sides are more evenly firing. I have some glute activation exercises I do before I run and notice a huge difference when I don’t do them (like yesterday 😬). After I run I do my PT stretches and/or foam roll.
 
Warmup and cool downs- Almost never🤷‍♀️

On the treadmill - I will walk for two minutes before running.

Outside, I will walk maybe a minute or two until I get to the trail or track from the parking lot. Same for cool down. Water and fuel only on runs over 9 miles
 
ATTQOTD: I never did warm ups and cool downs amounted to walking from end of run to my car or house. Then I got injured. Not specifically due to this but I am sure if contributed. As part of the routine my PT had me doing 5 minutes walking from a stroll to fast walk and then slip into a run. First mile always intentionally slow. And I do a half mile cool down, light jog to walking and then light stretch (sometimes I skip out on stretch if I am running late - don’t tell my PT!). Has really helped me.
 
QOTD: Warm-ups and cool-downs? Do you do them? Sometimes? Every time? Never?

Long answer (behind spoiler to make it easier to skip on by)

The older I get and the more miles are on the legs, the more WU/CD activities there are. These days I'm doing a series of static stretches and dynamic stretches before every run. Takes about 5-10 min in total to get through all the routines. Post run is a series of static stretches and foam rolling that take me about 10-15 min to get through. Everything added over time after each successive injury. The most comprehensive and well designed research study I read concluded that when it comes to pre-run and post-run stretching do whatever you're currently doing as long as it's working. Those who changed from "no stretching to a new stretching routine", and those who changed from "normal stretching routine to no stretching" were more likely to develop an injury than those that kept not stretching or kept stretching. So in essence, don't make any changes to your stretching routine if it's working.

It's been a while since I've looked into the research around WU/CD running. But this is what I include in my instructions since I did the research on it several years ago (I believe the bulk came from Steve Magness book "Science of Running":

The warm-ups are key for anything faster than "long run" pace which includes HM Tempo, Daniels T, and Tempo. Essentially, there are two main pathways for the body to use oxygen to produce energy. The aerobic pathway is mostly used in slower running. The closer you get to the point where it becomes harder to breathe (Ventilatory Threshold) the more you use the anaerobic pathway. The aerobic pathway is more efficient and faster at creating energy, whereas the body uses anaerobic when the aerobic can't keep up (because you're going too fast).

The most interesting part between the aerobic and anaerobic pathway is that even though the aerobic is used mostly during slow running it takes about 6 minutes of running before it can be used. This means for the first 6 minutes we're stuck with the slow, inefficient anaerobic pathway. So if you don't do a warm-up, and you're running faster than "long run" pace you push the anaerobic pathway too hard. This creates a deficit in energy within the first 6 minutes that becomes harder to overcome. As this deficit starts to catch up with you in later miles, it causes our running form to suffer. When we get closer to your first race we'll talk about a detailed warm-up routine done prior to the race which is extra important in races. So for you, the EA, EB, and Long Run paces can all be started without doing any type of slow jog warm-up.


So from the above you can see why warming up before a race is vitally important. The length of the race dictates the length of the warm-up. A planned "A" level 5k effort should have 20-30 min of easy running with strides. Whereas a marathon could be a simple 5-6 min easy run. For races, a WU can occur as much as 60 min prior to the start of the race and it's still seen as useful by the body.

Cool-downs are good to help everything reset from a hard run/race. It's mostly used for injury prevention purposes. And there is a detriment to too long of a cool down.
 
GPS... has anyone noticed distance changes at different times of the year? I have a route I run multiple times a week and know the exact point at which I hit 1 mile... in summer, and in winter. Because the two are off by roughly half a block. And that's consistent year after year, for more than a decade. I assume it must have something to do with space movement and satellites and such?
I know that my distances are always greater on Strava than on NRC… using the same phone, just different apps!
 
April Totals
Swim - 16.3 miles
Bike - 465 miles
Run - 33 miles

Another good month focused on preparing for the Ride London 100 and keeping swim fitness for the world championships. Running will take a back seat until late summer when the 70.3 and full IM training are in full swing.
 
Random but I am missing the club I used to run with in Memphis tonight. I tried joining a club when I moved here 6 years ago but didn’t feel like I belonged.
 
All registered for two 1 miles races, one in June and one in July. June is to see where I'm at and then July to set a goal and beat it. July will be a race with an elite division. I ran it in 2019 and Shannon Osika and Nick Willis won so it gets some big names.

QOTD: Warm-ups and cool-downs? Do you do them? Sometimes? Every time? Never?

I always do a very short round of stretching. I don't like static stretching but doing about 7 quick stretches for under 20 seconds each after a short warm up before a run along with some leg swings is the minimum I do.

During training blocks or when I'm running workouts instead of just miles I also foam roll and do some harder ball rolling of trouble areas. For workouts I always do warm up and cool off miles.

I see a massage guy about once a month that does deep tissue, some Graston, and cupping. He is great and works on some pros and college teams.

Lastly, I have a TheraGun Elite on the Father's Day wish list.
 












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