The Running Thread - 2018

[LSUlakes]

I’ve never seen lactose free milk at the resorts for purchase, but someone else here may know for sure. Maybe they have it in the back??? Does Amazon deliver it?

We are driving so we could bring some with us but my concerns are the fridges in the room do not seem to get cold for us. My other concern is bringing it into the parks in September with limited ability to keep it cold without having to bring a ton of additional stuff in with us.

 

[Slogger]

Off Topic Question: We are leaving for WDW is 15 days and our son is now drinking whole milk but has a lactose issue, so at home we buy the lactose free kind for him. Do yall know of anywhere in the parks where we can purchase lactose free milk? TIA

Can he drink Silk soy milk? Our son has similar issues. We were able to get it a few years ago at a couple restaurants (we called ahead) and at our resort.

 

[garneska]

@BikeFan shoe question. if you are doing a lot of stream crossings and submerging your feet, do you prefer normal trail shoes verses gortex? The problem with gortex is the water does not run out or dry out as quick. i want to get trail shoes for my hiking but i am torn on gortex verses not. I do have trail shoes that are gortex and of course did not wear them for my trail race but it was not super wet. Right now i am hiking in gortex boots. Mostly because i have been doing it all summer and have not had any blister issues or major feet problems. I figure i am not changing that up before Chicago since i have been hiking. One more hike left to complete the AT in Georgia. It will be in two weeks and then will take a break from hiking till after Chicago.

As for the question: i did my first trail race two weeks ago and i pushed hard and it was still slower than my road running but i felt the effort. My plan was to go easy but nope could not do it. Pushed with everything i had. It was shorter than my planned training run but since my effort was full out i figured i was fine.

 

[gjramsey]

ATTQOTD: I don't normally run trails, but have run one relay race the last couple of years. My times have been :90 to 2 minutes per mile slower than road races, or about :30 slower than my Easy A road runs. I agree that run by effort is the best way to run trails, since the terrain is so different and can change so much in very little distance.

 

[PrincessV]

We are driving so we could bring some with us but my concerns are the fridges in the room do not seem to get cold for us. My other concern is bringing it into the parks in September with limited ability to keep it cold without having to bring a ton of additional stuff in with us.

Check your grocery store for shelf-stable lactose-free milk. I buy shelf-stable milk for traveling and I'm pretty sure I've seen lactose-free options, too. My store puts it with condensed and evaporated milk in one of the middle aisles. No refrigeration needed, so it's great for traveling (or when power is out), but tastes better chilled.

 

[BikeFan]

@BikeFan shoe question. if you are doing a lot of stream crossings and submerging your feet, do you prefer normal trail shoes verses gortex? The problem with gortex is the water does not run out or dry out as quick. i want to get trail shoes for my hiking but i am torn on gortex verses not. I do have trail shoes that are gortex and of course did not wear them for my trail race but it was not super wet. Right now i am hiking in gortex boots. Mostly because i have been doing it all summer and have not had any blister issues or major feet problems. I figure i am not changing that up before Chicago since i have been hiking. One more hike left to complete the AT in Georgia. It will be in two weeks and then will take a break from hiking till after Chicago.

As for the question: i did my first trail race two weeks ago and i pushed hard and it was still slower than my road running but i felt the effort. My plan was to go easy but nope could not do it. Pushed with everything i had. It was shorter than my planned training run but since my effort was full out i figured i was fine.

I've never tried gortex shoes. In fact, I've only ever used one pair of trail shoes, Mizuno Wave Ascend 6's, which are at least 5 years old now. Since I mostly run on the road, though, my trail shoes have less than 200 miles on them and still work fine. They've got a nice lightweight, breathable upper and dry quickly enough not to give me blisters. I think the bigger issue is the socks - my first trail ultra, I wore some cheap cotton socks which took FOREVER to dry and gave me massive, painful blisters - it was definitely a learning experience I've not forgotten. Since then, I make sure to wear tech socks which dry quickly, and carry an extra pair or two in my hydration pack, just in case. Most times, good tech socks will dry fast enough that I won't have to change them, but socks are light so it's no big deal to carry a pair or two. Since that time, I've not had any major foot issues in trail races, even one 8-hour race which involved a creek crossing in February!

 

[lilmc]

ATTQOTD: I live in CO and don’t trail run as much as I would like, but I do. The pace can vastly vary depending on steepness, altitude, and whether it is very technical or not. There really is no “rule of thumb” as to how much pace will be affected. I go on consistent effort, which above treeline is honestly barely a walk. Also I measure on “how many hours was I out today” and time on feet, rather than distance, as distance will not be equivalent.

 

[maw]

ATTQOTD: I have never run on trails. I also am afraid of falling and killing myself. Also ticks and chiggers.

I haven't been on the boards much lately as I am depressed about my lack of running. I had a sciatica flare up a couple of weeks ago. It only lasted a couple of days but walking, standing, sleeping poorly to compensate for my bad side made me hurt my back and I have been having pretty constant pain since. Doctors just want to throw pain meds at me so I am just taking it slow and letting it heal on my own. But I haven't run in weeks and even before that I was only running maybe 3 days a week. I feel like all my endurance is down the drain and I will have to start from scratch for WDW Marathon training. I feel like a wimp being depressed over this as some of you have so much more worse health problems to deal with. Sigh.

I just wanted to say hang in there and I hope your recovery goes well.

 

[Kerry1957]

I only run trails except for Disney. As others have mentioned, the definition of a trail can differ by a huge amount from hilly BMX bike ruts with rocks, boulders, roots, stream crossings, etc to flat 6 feet wide crushed limestone paths through a forest or prairie. Most of the trails I run on are in between these two extremes, closer to the later than the former. My trail HM times are only a couple of minutes slower than my Disney HMs.

I wear Nike Terra Kiger trail shoes which are not extreme and can double for occasional road pavement pounding.

 

[PCFriar80]

ATTQOTD: I have never run on trails. I also am afraid of falling and killing myself. Also ticks and chiggers.

I haven't been on the boards much lately as I am depressed about my lack of running. I had a sciatica flare up a couple of weeks ago. It only lasted a couple of days but walking, standing, sleeping poorly to compensate for my bad side made me hurt my back and I have been having pretty constant pain since. Doctors just want to throw pain meds at me so I am just taking it slow and letting it heal on my own. But I haven't run in weeks and even before that I was only running maybe 3 days a week. I feel like all my endurance is down the drain and I will have to start from scratch for WDW Marathon training. I feel like a wimp being depressed over this as some of you have so much more worse health problems to deal with. Sigh.

Sorry to hear about your sciatica. I had a similar experience 3 years ago and my ortho doctor prescribed an x-ray guided cortisone shot. It was the longest needle I had ever seen but it did the trick. I'm not suggesting this would solve your issue, but wanted to let you know that another doctor may have a more aggressive treatment. Nonetheless, good luck. Be patient with your rehab and this will be in the rear view mirror for you someday!

 

[Smilelea]

I just had to share my birthday present from DH. I'll soon have a medal from Hogwarts Running Club to add under the Hogwarts castle.



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ATTQOTD: I've not done a trail run before but I'm considering registering for one in November. I certainly won't have a time goal in mind if I do it. I'll be one of the ones falling and breaking something if I did.

 

[Olallamom]

Before moving to Arizona, half of my weekly runs were on trails. I lived in Washington state where there are a lot of wooded trail areas for running. My pace was slightly slower than on pavement.
Here in Arizona I run mostly on pavement. Not as many trail options near my home.

 

[flav]

Catching up a bit...

ATTQOTD goal setting: Though decisions.
If I know I register for a fun run, the only objectives will be to enjoy and finish.
If I want a specific POT then it makes the training and running goals clear.
Then, I have races for which I really don’t know until the day before what the objective will be. Then, while I race, I wonder why I have time objectives if my long term goal is to keep having fun running.

ATTQOTD increasing mileage: I follow a detailed plan that includes speed intervals, climbs, long run, etc. If I want more mileage, I add a fourth and fifth day of running.


ATTFFQOTD character meals:
I have done a lot and it depends what take my family’s interest. I recall my DD having a sword fight in a sunny CRT. I recall little 4yo Cinderella opening the bal with Prince Charming at 1900PF. I recall some chefs at Tusker House and 1900PF helping enthusiastically DH to find Gluten-free food. I recall both Belle (Akersus) and Beast (BOG) taking picture with a very sleepy beauty. My DD still talk about that drawing she gave Minnie at Cape May Cafe. I appreciated being able to go to some of the breakfast without taking a bus (Ohana when at Poly, 1900 when at GF) as it made the morning much more relaxed. And I have had requests to repeat Chef Michey because it is a fun party, so iconic. In short, it has always been less about the food and more about the overall experience including the cool down from August Florida heat.
If there was inly one I could repeat, I would probably choose CRT for princesses and Chef Mickey for the mouse itself... Both conveniently located near MK. Least favorite is between Disney Junior at HS and Cape May Cafe unless I am staying at the BC.

 

[flav]

I’ve never seen lactose free milk at the resorts for purchase, but someone else here may know for sure. Maybe they have it in the back??? Does Amazon deliver it?

Disney can accomodate most allergies and lactose should not be a problem. I recommend that you review the Special Dietary Requestssite https://disneyland.disney.go.com/ca/plan/guest-services/special-dietary-requests/

For WnD in 2017, I had contacted my resort (Pop) and arranged for the kitchen to have a quart of lactose free milk for sale so I could have it for pre-race breakfast. Just ask for the chef when you arrive at your resort Quick Service location. My chef was amazing, he ended up helping with my entire « grocery »: LF milk, bread, hard boiled eggs and case of bottled water... And personally delivered it to my room while chatting. Disney is amazing for these things and they want everyone to be happy.

 

[Kazrak]

Disney can accomodate most allergies and lactose should not be a problem. I recommend that you review the Special Dietary Requestssite https://disneyland.disney.go.com/ca/plan/guest-services/special-dietary-requests/

For WnD in 2017, I had contacted my resort (Pop) and arranged for the kitchen to have a quart of lactose free milk for sale so I could have it for pre-race breakfast. Just ask for the chef when you arrive at your resort Quick Service location. My chef was amazing, he ended up helping with my entire « grocery »: LF milk, bread, hard boiled eggs and case of bottled water... And personally delivered it to my room while chatting. Disney is amazing for these things and they want everyone to be happy.

That sounds fantastic. My wife is lactose intolerant, so on the last trip we flagged the dining reservations for her as having dietary issues with milk. Problem was, this generally dropped her into the 'generic allergy' category, so she got the gluten-free, dairy-free, nut-free, texture-free, flavor-free bread (for example) - even though she's fine with, for example, butter.

Might need to see what we can do for the next one to make life easier for her while still giving her food she wants to eat.

 

[Bree]

Disney can accomodate most allergies and lactose should not be a problem. I recommend that you review the Special Dietary Requestssite https://disneyland.disney.go.com/ca/plan/guest-services/special-dietary-requests/

For WnD in 2017, I had contacted my resort (Pop) and arranged for the kitchen to have a quart of lactose free milk for sale so I could have it for pre-race breakfast. Just ask for the chef when you arrive at your resort Quick Service location. My chef was amazing, he ended up helping with my entire « grocery »: LF milk, bread, hard boiled eggs and case of bottled water... And personally delivered it to my room while chatting. Disney is amazing for these things and they want everyone to be happy.

Ha! I knew somebody would know!

Service like you experienced is why I love Disney so much

 

[OldSlowGoofyGuy]

ATTQOTD: No trail races, and not much trail running for me. I had ankle surgery a couple of years ago and roots and rocks scare me.

Unrelated (to anything) topic:

I'm replaying last year's marathon plan, created by you-know-who. (Not tagging him, saving the badger signal for when I really need it.)

Since it's the exact same plan, it is fun to go back and look at last year's run and see how I did compared to this year. I'm not drawing any scientific conclusions from the data; it's just for entertainment.

This past Saturday's run was a blind 7 mile at Long Run Pace run. I even turned off auto-lap, so I got zero feedback from the watch.

This year's run:


Last year's run:


The weather and location/course were similar. This year's average heart rate was 137. Last year's was 142.

I found that to be interesting: just 1 second difference between the 2 runs; not 1 second per mile, just 1 second total. Luckily, this year's was 1 second faster. I would have been mad had it been 1 second slower.

As you get older, it's one of the things you do: chase after your younger self, hoping to trade places with him.

 

[DopeyBadger]

ATTQOTD: No trail races, and not much trail running for me. I had ankle surgery a couple of years ago and roots and rocks scare me.

Unrelated (to anything) topic:

I'm replaying last year's marathon plan, created by you-know-who. (Not tagging him, saving the badger signal for when I really need it.)

Since it's the exact same plan, it is fun to go back and look at last year's run and see how I did compared to this year. I'm not drawing any scientific conclusions from the data; it's just for entertainment.

This past Saturday's run was a blind 7 mile at Long Run Pace run. I even turned off auto-lap, so I got zero feedback from the watch.

This year's run:
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Last year's run:
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The weather and location/course were similar. This year's average heart rate was 137. Last year's was 142.

I found that to be interesting: just 1 second difference between the 2 runs; not 1 second per mile, just 1 second total. Luckily, this year's was 1 second faster. I would have been mad had it been 1 second slower.

As you get older, it's one of the things you do: chase after your younger self, hoping to trade places with him.

Well done. Nice to see the HR drop. That's a really good sign if the environmental conditions were similar.

 

[Dis5150]

Thank you to everyone who gave me encouraging words yesterday! I really appreciate it. I tend to isolate myself when I have a problem which leads to the depressing thoughts. I need to remember to come on here as soon as I can to get some encouragement and not go down the self pity party path. You guys are the best.

 

[LSUlakes]

QOTD: Lets talk about running and headaches today. If you have a headache are you able to run with it? How often do you get them and whats the best methods for getting rid of them?

ATTQOTD: I do not always have headaches but once I get one they seem to come in a series for a few days. Yesterday I had one, but was determined to try to run. After 1/4 mile it got much worse and I shut it down. I was very aggravated about the whole situation. I get headaches and my best method for getting them to go away is going into a dark and quite room and simply have to sleep it off. I am absolutely useless when I have one. The more sound and light I'm exposed to the worse it gets. I am a wimp essentially with those darn things.